What happens after we die.

[Ouroboros Prime]

Re: What happens after we die.

when we die we probably go to some kind of afterlife

[ScylaX]

Re: What happens after we die.

when we die we probably go to some kind of afterlife

We're in critical thinking here so please explain your opinion, give critical arguments to put some bedrock to your postulate. Or he will crumble.

[Ouroboros Prime]

Re: What happens after we die.

well there has to be more to life than this
and we couldn't be here without god
so it's not that much of a stretch really. probably something after death

[fido123]

Re: What happens after we die.

Thruth is, nobody knows the answer so everyones belief is just as likely to be true as the others.

I completely disagree. Some answers are based off nothing but magic and fables. We have a really good idea how we got here after earth was formed, what happens after we die, and what existence is. Any answer that goes against what we have a decent understanding of is probably false. This comic illustrates how I view a lot of people's beliefs on how we got here:

well there has to be more to life than this

Why? I don't think so.

and we couldn't be here without god

Yes we can. Watch Carl Sagan's a guide to the cosmos. It's at least 30 years old (I think) but that should just further illustrate my point.

so it's not that much of a stretch really. probably something after death

Existence is merely a product an arrangement of atoms and molecules aided by survival of the fittest. When this arrangement ceases to exist, why would our existence continue to exist?

[HammyMcSquirrel]

Re: What happens after we die.

well there has to be more to life than this
and we couldn't be here without god
so it's not that much of a stretch really. probably something after death

Rubix, please stop using an alt to troll people.

[ScylaX]

Re: What happens after we die.

I don't mind the belief of this guy but he just keeps using pointless substantiations to justificate his postulates. Stop bullying logic, please. Logic is kind.

As to myself, I don't see why there would rationally be anything more to life once you die. I had that metaphysical doubt just yesterday, I started to perceive things just as how strange they were, considering normal the fact I'm seeing myself as an human instead of seeing my body, my race or the Earth as something totally bizarre and maybe disgusting.
Since there is no base for life, or for why I'm just born at this very date and not one century earlier or later, you can be really leaded to think the same as for death.
But since these would be pure baseless speculations, it's just safer to hold a rational belief, except if the simple fact of having a single life may be too unbearable for you. But you can still deducea a spiritual richness from atheist/agnostic points of views, the fact the majority of the people that hold this opinion in a spiritual cage doesn't deprive it from gaining your own spiritual faith into this (y'know, these things like "I have one single life so I have to fulfill it the way I can", these sort of fundamental rules you'd give to yourself to conduct your life)

[CobaltWire]

Re: What happens after we die.

Tone of the topic is so depressing don't u guys think? If u really want to know what happens after u die, u go to ponyville where depending on the type of person u live as will depend on the type of pony u become... nah jk, would be cool though. xD

What happens when we seize to function is a common and normal thought for everyone, but very unhealthy if u dedicate ur whole life to trying to figure out, cause the only way you'll ever know is to... u know, die. Anything could happen, as well as nothing. The sky is NOT the limit in this case. Ive personally always found the Matrix theory to be one that I'm most interested in. U know, the one where we're all living in a super advanced program and everything we think is real is actually artificial. What if the world we're living in isn't the real deal? What if the world ur living in is actually something ur just thinking up? The world is only as real as your senses allows it to be.

For all I know, I could die tonight and wake up in the REAL world tomorrow.

[ScylaX]

Re: What happens after we die.

@Cobaltwire tl;dr solipsism

You don't know anything by dying. You just stop knowing.
I mean it's somehow a really semi-rational statement there : the human species exist since thousand of years. The universe is 13.7 billion years old. It'd be really likely that, if a system that allowed you to know what there was after death, you'd know it, because you'd have already died once. That's it. Or maybe not, because we just have no proof.
But that's something that can go really far, speculations. The fact we don't know much things about it can lead to many many hypothesis because you're having the URGE to make sense. Or, somehow, to put your own sense - may it be logical or not.

[Hateandhatred]

Re: What happens after we die.

Brb hanging myself and telling you what happens after I die.

^ Only logical way to know it when you figure stuff out by perceptions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consciousness

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_death

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necrosis

Pretty much it.

"The man was ash and will return to ash".

[ScylaX]

Re: What happens after we die.

How can you know you still perceive things once you're dead ? What makes you perceive things is your brain, right ? If your brain dies, you don't perceive anything anymore.
So how can you know what there's after death ? Or even just what the fact of being dead is ?

[Hateandhatred]

Re: What happens after we die.

How can you know you still perceive things once you're dead ? What makes you perceive things is your brain, right ? If your brain dies, you don't perceive anything anymore.
So how can you know what there's after death ? Or even just what the fact of being dead is ?

Just quit using perceptions.

It's like pretending psychology is a science.

EDIT: O wait.

We basically have the same stance, looking at your previous posts. Sorry man.

[Spenner]

Re: What happens after we die.

Perhaps it's something along the lines of experiencing a certain ego death, which one might find easy and comforting or stressful and full of fear and anxiety, depending how they're going about thinking it as it's happening. After the ego death, the degeneration is very very slow and without a sense of "self" the aspects of dying are no longer as noticeable or perceivable, as thoughts and electric signals ping pong around your head, the glands flexing and twitching and pouring out all that it can in an attempt to run to it's usual standard, until it realizes it doesn't have the hardware to continue pumping and the thought process ceases, some abstract sensations buzz about, and then by the time all action has ceased, you are no longer worried about past or present, because you don't have yourself to worry about. In fact you are dead by that point.

All I can think about happening AFTER that fact is probably nonsense, but I'm definitely not going to sit with my arms crossed and say "nothing happens" my entire life. What a waste. Maybe there is a plane on which we become part of a space that was unable to be perceived in our daily lives. Spontaneous electric signals floating in hyperspace, affecting strings that under the pressure of death resonate with a set of parallel strings in a multiverse. Likely not connected with any organic material, probably nothing would happen. But existence might not cease, just our perception, and self. Maybe what we actually perceive on a day to day basis is based on a 3rd party material we can't observe with the tools at hand.

Even electrons sense influence from forces around them, I guess consciousness is just a collective of many smaller nuanced feelings and measurements and reactions.

TL;DR: I'm NUTS, and I like how mysterious life is. I just like the idea of not being contained on this pixel in space for all of eternity.

[fido123]

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All I can think about happening AFTER that fact is probably nonsense, but I'm definitely not going to sit with my arms crossed and say "nothing happens" my entire life.

So your opinion is derived off wishful thinking and not off fact or rational at all?

[bmah]

Re: What happens after we die.

Well I'm guessing it's more of the fact that Spenner wants some comfort in knowing that something happens. I would too. Most of us can acknowledge that in reality the only thing that'll happen is degradation, but that's not a comforting thought - and most of us want to make sense of it, however irrational our theories are.

[Emithith]

Re: What happens after we die.

if a system that allowed you to know what there was after death, you'd know it, because you'd have already died once.

After you die you don't know anything, because your brain dies with you, so how could you know if you died? It's impossible.
Likely nothing happens and you just pop out of existence and don't know anything anymore, and you don't even know you're dead. It's a pretty depressing thought if you think about it, but really, we know as much about afterlife as pre-life in a sense.
(what I mean, is before you're even born)