Pain and Pleasure

[Specforces]

My question is, does the amount of pain you experience have any influence on the amount of pleasure that you experience? It would be impossible to know what pleasure is without first experiencing some form of pain. So does that mean that if you have many hardships and lots of pain that your life will also be filled with joy and happiness? Or will your suffering cause you to have a negative, pessimistic outlook on life? Also, do your personal experiences with pain and pleasure give you insight as to other's emotions? And if you had a relatively simply and easy life, would this make you less sympathetic towards other's problems?

Specforces

[jazzmosis]

Pleasure may not be "learned" by experiencing pain, it could be taught by the social standard of what pleasure is. (Ie; Sex, winning the lottery, etc). So by knowing what pleasure is, one could grasp the concept and teach themselves the feeling of when such event happens.

[Omeganitros]

I dont think you need to realy experience pain to learn pleasure. Unmodest Example: A boy goes through his entire childhood without tripping, bumping his head, running into a door, starving, etc, etc. Then one day, hitting puberty, he discovers how to play with himself. In my book, pleasure is an exceedingly good feeling. He may have felt healthy and "good" all his life, and when that time comes, bam.

[Moogy]

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[makaveli121212]

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moron..


i think emotional pain can definately make pleasures seem better...but i cant see how physical pain would have any benefit...trust me ive been there

[Moogy]

If you appreciated my sarcastic style of humor, you would probably think that was funny.

[Anticrombie0909]

I thought it was funny.

Anyway, there's a very thin line between pleasure and pain, although they're direct opposites. Keep in mind that all sensations are simply how your brain chooses to interpert them, 'pain' doesn't exist beyond our own mind. Torture is a combination of the two- they will beat them, then try and protect them and make them believe they are a friend, then beat them again. It's by far the most effective measure. If you tried, I doubt you could even make a clear distinction between pleasure and pain, so the issue is moot in itself.

[Moogy]

Hellraiser (the book) has a lot of things related to what Anti posted about. Check it out.

[perfect_fat]

does the amount of pain you experience have any influence on the amount of pleasure that you experience?

I think so. If you only have pleasurable experiences in your life, then receive a painful one, it will come as a shock that your body isn't used to. They say people become desensitized to things when they're exposed to large amounts of X. If the opposite of X hits, it can be unnerving.

And winning the lottery doesn't matter if you're already a multi-billionaire and you win a couple of million. But if you're struggling to feed your kids for years, and you scrape up 2 bux to buy a ticket and you win, that would be thrilling.

If you're constantly backstabbed and abused by friends your whole life, then you will be less trusting. When you find a friend who doesn't do that to you, that one friend will be more special then 1000 so-called friends.

[jazzmosis]

True enough, but if you were a multi-billionare why would you play the lottery?

[IAMTHEEVILBEAN]

Might as well. Why souldn't you try to win even more money?

[Serenichi]

some pleasure is actually derived from pain. the feeling of being tickled is actually small amounts of pain.

Quoted from how stuff works.com

"the feeling experienced when we are tickled causes us to panic and is a natural defense to little creepy crawlers like spiders and bugs.
That same ticklish feeling sends us into a state of panic and elicits a response of uncontrollable laughter if a person tickles us. It's the moment that you least expect to be tickled and are that causes you to feel extremely uneasy and panicked, which leads to the most intense ticklish feeling. Even if you do know that you are about to be tickled, the fear and unease of someone touching and possibly hurting you causes you to laugh."

We were discussing this in Biology which makes me think, pain and pleasure only differ on how your brain perceives them, but ultimately are the same thing, which is why some people are masochists and recieve pleasure from pain.

[COBOL]

this topic sounds like BDSM or sumthin

[Yanah_God]

did you guys know that pain is nothing more than very intense feeling?

to prove it, just touch something sharp, then gradually put pressure on it until

i'm teh smart

[spikedsteel]

lol saying you need to feel pain to know what pleasure is is like saying if a eskimo lives in the snow its whole life you toss him in the freezer he aint gonna get cold you dont need one to feel the other