Are We All Related

[Flyleef]

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Hey.... brother.

[super kid]

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In biblical views we all are, but are ancestors were sepperated when they tried to reach God by the Tower of Babylon.

[TheMagiKMan]

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In biblical views we all are, but are ancestors were sepperated when they tried to reach God by the Tower of Babylon.

It was the tower of babel

[FishFishRevolution]

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I made out with my 3rd cousin once.

Actually i was more than once.

Yeah like 100 times. So the idea doesn't weird me out at all.

[jewpinthethird]

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If he was worried about other men killing him, and found a wife to father children with, clearly humans existed outside the Garden.

But where did these humans come from? There is not mention of God creating other humans in Genesis, only Adam and later Eve. I mean, I could be completely wrong, but my knowledge of the Biblical history is that Adam's lineage leads to Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, and with Jesus.

So far, the only explanations I've heard are that Adam and Eve had many more sons and daughters that the Bible doesn't mention (how convenient) or that God created other populations of humans that the Bible doesn't mention (again, how convenient).

Or it could be that Genesis was an figurative oral retelling of how the Hebrews came to be that had been past down from generation to generation. You know, the story about a small monotheistic tribe of nomadic desert dwellers managed to populate itself through interbreeding. Don't get me wrong, but these people thought the world was flat and that stars were holes in the heavens, I wouldn't take their word on how it is the Earth, the Universe and everything came to be.

[devonin]

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Even if the bible was a literal and historically accurate account of Adam and Eve, why is it so shocking to consider that god created other humans elsewhere? If the bible was written by people who had oral histories passed down, they knew the stories they were told, and the stories they were told were from people who didn't know those other humans existed.

If you read any book that tells the story of some major lineage (Say...the Julio-Claudian emperors, or the Tudors or what have you) those stories quite clearly leave out whole swaths of people. It is somewhat akin to criticizing "the decline and fall of the roman empire" for leaving out the aboriginal North Americans.

[jewpinthethird]

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Oh, no doubt your argument is well grounded, devonin, I just wasn't aware that it was perfectly acceptable to pull sh*t out of your ass to fill in the gaps in the Bible.

I mean, if God created people all around the world, then why are there so many different religions? Did God just create them and live them be, like he did the animals? Are these people some how "lesser" in God's eyes? Or did God create them all equally?

If infallible stories documented in the Bible are somehow not all-knowing, then what else did they leave out or get wrong? You can't question the authority of the Bible, because then you are questioning faith, and if you question faith, you question God.

This is blasphemy.

Obviously, the only true answer is that God is All-Powerful and capable to doing anything...even if it defies logic and cannot ever be proven. Just because we can't comprehend it doesn't mean it isn't true. I mean, I don't know how a computer works, but I can still use it. Right? That's how God is. I mean, know one knows why Airplanes fly, but they do. It just happens. God just happens. Why do you hate God devonin?

[devonin]

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Because God is an Iron.

[Philpwnsyou]

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I mean, if God created people all around the world, then why are there so many different religions? Did God just create them and live them be, like he did the animals? Are these people some how "lesser" in God's eyes? Or did God create them all equally?
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Theres an answer to that question if your actually interested, and in regards to your earlier post, "the earth is flat the stars are holes in the sky" is not the viewpoint held in the Bible.

[jewpinthethird]

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Theres an answer to that question if your actually interested

Only if the explanation comes from the Bible including chapter and verse.

"the earth is flat the stars are holes in the sky" is not the viewpoint held in the Bible.

I never said it was in the Bible. But it's hard to argue that the writers of the Bible knew much about Earth being round and revolving around the sun...or really had any knowledge about the natural world at all.

[lord_carbo]

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Sorry, jewp, but the Bible acknowledges that there are those who deny the "only Lord God" and Jesus. Other religions = denying the Christian God and Jesus.

For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

Though, that doesn't answer the question why God never revealed himself to the other cultures until so late. What an asshole of a God, seriously. Like these unenlightened people are supposed to know any better.

[Nova1986]

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Just because it says by the bible that we are offspring from the beginning children doesn't mean that it is true, come on if we could go back to the beginning and knew what happened, it would be totally insane... We are just evolved creatures technically anyhow. Everything evolves, we will evolve again... just like our ancestors did. Evolution was the key that sprung to mind... lol Dinosaurs for instance evolved into something else, not saying the whole Dinosaur species were wiped out by ice age.

I still think Evolution was the key that brought it today. Most of us might be related though. Going through families, we the family tree doesn't have enough proof.

[Matrixdude]

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Hmm, the Adam and Eve story was just a parable told by Jesus to his followers to teach them how God created humans, I hope you all know. So this means that the Adam and Eve story is fake, it just tells the basic gist of how humanity was originated.

So I guess what I'm saying is that there were other humans around the time of "Adam and Eve" because it is a parable and no one really knows for sure really how humans were born. It seems like everyone in this thread doesn't understand that the "Adam and Eve" story is not real...

[devonin]

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You should look back over the thread, paying special attention to people's use of phrases like "Even if" and "Assuming" ...you know, the ones that imply that we are fully aware that the story of Adam and Eve is likely not factual, but that we are considering the ramifications of the possibility that it is factual, and whether biblical accounts allow for the full spread of humanity throughout the world.

Further...even if we were claiming it was true, where is your -proof- that the story is fake?

[jewpinthethird]

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Hmm, the Adam and Eve story was just a parable told by Jesus to his followers to teach them how God created humans, I hope you all know. So this means that the Adam and Eve story is fake, it just tells the basic gist of how humanity was originated.

What, what, what? Genesis was written 1400 years before Jesus was born. It is the first book of the Torah, and was probably written by Moses.

Also, even if other people existed at the time of Adam and Eve's creation, they would have all died off in the flood. After the flood, Noah, his family, and his ark of animals, are the only things left on Earth.

So where did all these other people come from? Spontaneous Generation?

Lord Carbo, your passage doesn't say much about where these people came from...let alone that they came from different lands or spoke different languages.

Modern Translation:
Jude 1:4 "Some godless people have sneaked in among us and are saying, 'God treats us much better than we deserve, and so it is all right to be immoral.' They even deny that we must obey Jesus Christ as our only Master and Lord. But long ago the Scriptures warned that these godless people were doomed."

Also, any mention of Jesus Christ comes from the New Testament which was written some 2000 years after the Torah (or Old Testament).