Infinity * Zero = Any Number ARGUE HERE

[Vote4Nixon]

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It equals the force of ten men farting

[hafelife]

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It's mathematically impossible eh? Provide some proof.

The bee is, compared to the Earth, incredibly light. Therefore, according to Newton's law of universal gravitation, the bee is less attracted to the Earth than an object of greater mass. If the bee can fly (which it can), then the bee must be able to generate enough force (enough to defy gravity) such that it can fly.

haha but even with it incertibuly light waght the wing spand of the bees wing is not abule to lift the bee (mathmatcly) soooooooo the forse generated thats F and the waght of the bee thats W dose not make anuf life that L
W\F=L

[RandomPscho]

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haha but even with it incertibuly light waght the wing spand of the bees wing is not abule to lift the bee (mathmatcly) soooooooo the forse generated thats F and the waght of the bee thats W dose not make anuf life that L
W\F=L

Please provide some evidence that a bee cannot fly.

[darkdieuguerre]

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haha but even with it incertibuly light waght the wing spand of the bees wing is not abule to lift the bee (mathmatcly) soooooooo the forse generated thats F and the waght of the bee thats W dose not make anuf life that L
W\F=L

That's pure theory. You haven't yet provided evidence that contradicts what is true. Bees fly not because they are an exception of math. They are so light that the force they need to defy gravity is relatively small, and since they can generate that force (how else can they fly?) they can fly.

[hafelife]

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That's pure theory. You haven't yet provided evidence that contradicts what is true. Bees fly not because they are an exception of math. They are so light that the force they need to defy gravity is relatively small, and since they can generate that force (how else can they fly?) they can fly.

lol i no that thay can fly and i no that there mass is less so thay hev a less gravitational pull is less but still with it less gravitational pull it is still mathamaticly and that the key word mathamaticly it is inposibule to fly because it waght over take the amount of fores the wing could perduse even with is less waght it still inposibul because ether our math is worng or there is some thing that we dont no and we are geting off subject lol we when to 0*inf to bee lol it was just a exsample

[hafelife]

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Please provide some evidence that a bee cannot fly.

i no that a bee can fly it just mathmaticly inposibul that it can fly

[RandomPscho]

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i no that a bee can fly it just mathmaticly inposibul that it can fly

Which is what I am asking evidence of.

[3D OGRE 1]

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that comparision is totally different!

[tha Guardians]

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Tell me if you've gotten to Calculus or beyond yet.

The list of formulas to memorize for derivatives is over 100. Just for derivatives. There are 100 more for integrals. There are probably hundreds more for other things.

Do you honestly see this as necessary? Do you honestly think you can rely on this knowledge if you're in an emergency situation? What if you confuse 1/x with x/1? What if you confuse 2x with x^2? What about cotangent with cosecant?

Professors seem to think you NEED TO KNOW these things, and you're telling me those professions NEED TO KNOW these things, so this is not an unrealistic number of formulas AT ALL.

OH NOT TO MENTION all the rules for finding them. Quotient Rule, Chain Rule, Product Rule, Power Rule. DEFINITELY NOT HARD TO CONFUSE THESE HAHAHAHA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_derivatives

Get memorizing. If you can't tell me what the derivative of 5x^9arccot(6x) +10x^2csc(3) is within five minutes, the world could end. No calculators, please.

Oh and don't confuse any of those with these.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_integrals

Okay, this is an old post, but I need to make a point.

You're an astronaut alone trying to land on Mars. You've lost communication with Earth and you have 5 minutes to find your position and calculate your distance, angle, and velocity. What now? Are you going to bring out your laptop, bounce a signal off a satellite from millions of miles away, and open up google or wikipedia? You may have a calculator with you, but what if you don't know the formula needed to find all your calculations?

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Is it really? You do remember how gravity works, right? The more massive the object in question the stronger gravity pulls on it (or something like that, I'll have to look it up). So the bee, being relatively light, is not affected by gravity as much as humans are. Therefore, since the bee can generate enough force to overcome gravity, it can fly. However, we can't, since we are too heavy and too un-aerodynamic.

It flies because its wings flapping propels wind under it and sense it is not very dense, the air pushes up on the bee, allowing it to sustain in the air, but ask yourself why a bee may not fly backwards.

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For I = Infinity...

I-I=0? Supposing it doesn't have a limit, does the universe exploding mean there would be no universe, or would it start again? I've heard theory of Attractions (Gravity), Repels (Like a - magnet and a + magnet), and Constant stages in where the universe repeats itself except for one factor. If this theory were true, then wouldn't it be possible that the limit increases?

In my theory, I-I=0+x


Now onto I+-I=I-I? Since infinity has no limit, isn't it possible that I+-I could be anything, and not zero?

In my opinion I+-I=/=I-I
I say I+-I=I+x-I-n in that a limit does not exist so I is not a solid number, but only a theory, but could someone explain to me if I+-I=I-I or please tell me what's going on, because I'm tired.

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I=Infinity

I+I=2I, but since I has no limit, 2I still remains I. I+x=I, and I+I=I

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I've been very curious about this, please post comments.

Proof:

Any number / Infinity = Zero -- because anything divided by infinity will be infinitely small or zero.

Therefore Infinity * Zero = Infinity -- when you put infinity on the other side.

I=Infinity

x/I =/= 0
x/I = <I but >= 0

(x*0)=(x-x)

The only way I can think to solve this is to say I-I=0+x so I*0=x and x>0 and x<=I, but that doesn't quite sum it up, does it?

[businessman07]

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When I was in cal I hated remembering Identities:
Reciprocal
Pythagorean
negitive angle
Quotient
Double angle
Product to sum
sum to product
Half angle
Cofunction
I can still remember the final
I got a 72 barely bassed, I was good for nothing else that day, every time I tried to think, I remembered formulas.

they are stupid and unnessary!

[Exag0n]

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The list of formulas to memorize for derivatives is over 100. Just for derivatives. There are 100 more for integrals. There are probably hundreds more for other things.

As far as derivatives are concerned, they're piss easy, especially the ones referred to on the site you posted. If you can't remember them, derive them. To be honest, it's not rocket science.

Do you honestly see this as necessary? Do you honestly think you can rely on this knowledge if you're in an emergency situation? What if you confuse 1/x with x/1? What if you confuse 2x with x^2? What about cotangent with cosecant?

Though I agree that such knowledge is unlikely to help you in said "emergency situation," is that really relevant? Math has thousands of applications, most of which are very useful, and though knowing that the derivative of sin x is cos x doesn't seem useful at face value, it's the basis for further math study (if that is your bent, like mine) and simple though these rules are, they were an integral part (oh, you like that pun don't you) of mathematical development (and all the positive repercussions this entails.)

Professors seem to think you NEED TO KNOW these things, and you're telling me those professions NEED TO KNOW these things, so this is not an unrealistic number of formulas AT ALL.

Professors and high-school teachers test you on these "stupid formulas" (which people tend to call them, not saying that you did) to test your knowledge of how they are derived, not just what the formula is. If your school/university teacher solely tests the formulas themselves, then they don't understand the concept of education in the least and I feel for you.

OH NOT TO MENTION all the rules for finding them. Quotient Rule, Chain Rule, Product Rule, Power Rule. DEFINITELY NOT HARD TO CONFUSE THESE HAHAHAHA.

Thing is... it is hard to confuse these. Not only are they fundamental and allow you to find the derivatives of virtually anything you need (at lower levels of calculus, obviously) they themselves aren't hard to derive. The only one's you need to remember are Power Rule, Product Rule, and Chain Rule. You can get almost everything else with just those three. I don't see any problems memorizing those =\

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_derivatives

Get memorizing. If you can't tell me what the derivative of 5x^9arccot(6x) +10x^2csc(3) is within five minutes, the world could end. No calculators, please.

Oh and don't confuse any of those with these.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_integrals

Integrals are usually solved using Euler's method (did I remember that right?) and a couple of others, i.e. with a calculator or computer. So, I can agree with you that the formulas for integrals are pretty much useless, given that real-world applications of integrals require the use of computers anyway.

[darkdieuguerre]

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Differential equations can be solved with Euler's Method. Then again, they are like an integral.

Integrals (definite) are solved using the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus.

Integrals (indefinite) are solved either by common sense (say, integrate x*dx), or integration by u-substitution, parts, partial fractions, or via a formula.

[Ashtoreth]

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I heard Chuck Norris counted to infinity why don't we as him?

[SCWolf]

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I heard Chuck Norris counted to infinity why don't we as him?

Rofl

[3D OGRE 1]

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I heard Chuck Norris counted to infinity why don't we as him?

LOL