The final question on my alg2 exam last year.

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  • RainGame53
    FFR Player
    • May 2005
    • 61

    #1

    The final question on my alg2 exam last year.

    1. Let a and b be equal non-zero quantities

    a = b


    2. Multiply through by a

    a^2 = ab


    3. Subtract b^2

    a^2 − b^2 = ab − b^2


    4. Factor both sides

    (a − b)(a + b) = b(a − b)


    5. Divide out (a − b)

    a + b = b


    6. Observing that a = b

    b + b = b


    7. Combine like terms on the left

    2b = b


    8. Divide by b

    2 = 1


    We had to write what causes the false answer and why. What a weird problem.
    Last edited by RainGame53; 10-29-2006, 11:47 AM. Reason: lol it was a typo, sry for confusing the **** outta all of you
  • Benny1
    FFR Player
    • Sep 2003
    • 1147

    #2
    Re: The final question on my alg2 exam last year.

    wow, that's retarded, it's so obvious that a=b, so therefore when they divide by (a-b) they're dividing by zero...

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    • masterhickle
      FFR Player
      • Apr 2005
      • 557

      #3
      Re: The final question on my alg2 exam last year.

      Here's why it's false

      When you factor 2a-2b = ab-2b, it should be: 2(a-b) = b(a-2)
      If I'm correct, that would be as far as you could factor without further information

      (a-b)(a+b) is the difference of squares, which equals a^2 - b^2
      Last edited by masterhickle; 09-24-2006, 04:45 PM.

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      • Tokzic
        FFR Player
        • May 2005
        • 6878

        #4
        Re: The final question on my alg2 exam last year.

        2. Multiply through by a

        2a = ab
        Wrong. a*a is a^2, not 2a. Actually, more steps are done wrong than right in that question, but that's the first mistake, so all others are irrelevant.

        So following through:

        a^2 - 2b = ab-2b
        a^2 - 2b = b(b-2)
        b^2 - 2b = b(b-2)
        b(b-2) = b(b-2)
        1 = 1

        That whole question is enormously retarded. Anyone with any knowledge in math could tell that the whole thing is done wrong.
        Last edited by Tokzic; 09-25-2006, 07:11 AM.

        Last edited by Tokzic: Today at 11:59 PM. Reason: wait what

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        • Patashu
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          • Apr 2006
          • 8609

          #5
          Re: The final question on my alg2 exam last year.

          This is the oldest question ever.

          But, yeah, it's false because a-b = 0, can't divide by 0.
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          • Doug31
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            • Jun 2004
            • 6811

            #6
            Re: The final question on my alg2 exam last year.

            When it said multiply through by a, I thought it was just a type-o, and that it meant multiply by 2, since that's what was required to get 2a, and I didn't even notice at first that the ab didn't have a 2. The factoring was totally wrong, since the 2s just disappeared. Even with the 2s just disappearing, it would not factor into (a+b)(a-b), so that's totally wrong. After the b got factored out of the other side, there wouldn't be a b left in the last term, so it's even more wrong. a-b=0 may be true, but I'm not sure that's really wrong, it just makes you lose zero as a solution of the equation if it were one, but it's otherwise okay, I thought.

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            • chickendude
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              • Sep 2003
              • 1901

              #7
              Re: The final question on my alg2 exam last year.

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              • lord_carbo
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                • Dec 2004
                • 6222

                #8
                Re: The final question on my alg2 exam last year.

                1/4 = inf

                Also, stupid thread, mathematical fallacy, etc.. Nothing to discuss.
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                • spyke252
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                  • Oct 2006
                  • 181

                  #9
                  Re: The final question on my alg2 exam last year.

                  Originally posted by chickendude
                  yeah, you cant assume the derivative of a summation is = to the summation of its derivative.

                  x
                  ∑x = x(x) + x(x-1) + x(x-2) + ... + x = x(x + x-1 + x-2 + ... + 0)
                  1

                  =x(x+2x+3x...+x(x-3) + x(x-2) +x(x-1))
                  =x(x(1))
                  =x^2

                  And I really didn't do anything.
                  Originally posted by Tokzic
                  is the repetition of the last line a metaphorical comparison of the dependance of society on technology today versus the more natural lifestyle of the late nineteenth century

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                  • chickendude
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                    • Sep 2003
                    • 1901

                    #10
                    Re: The final question on my alg2 exam last year.

                    yeah, since x has to be an integer, the left side isn't continuous or differentiable
                    it's a simple trick

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                    • vashthestampede0987
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                      • Jan 2004
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                      #11
                      Re: The final question on my alg2 exam last year.

                      Kids in a pre-algebra class could understand that much.
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                      • studmuffin51306
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                        • Sep 2006
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                        #12
                        Re: The final question on my alg2 exam last year.

                        Originally posted by vashthestampede0987
                        Kids in a pre-algebra class could understand that much.
                        I am in Algebra II and I have no idea what y'all are talking about

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                        • spyke252
                          FFR Player
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 181

                          #13
                          Re: The final question on my alg2 exam last year.

                          Originally posted by studmuffin51306
                          I am in Algebra II and I have no idea what y'all are talking about
                          Well, you aren't in preAlgebra anymore, are you?
                          Originally posted by Tokzic
                          is the repetition of the last line a metaphorical comparison of the dependance of society on technology today versus the more natural lifestyle of the late nineteenth century

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                          • Kit-
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                            • Feb 2006
                            • 536

                            #14
                            Re: The final question on my alg2 exam last year.


                            Discuss.
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                            • Afrobean
                              Admiral in the Red Army
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 13262

                              #15
                              Re: The final question on my alg2 exam last year.

                              2i^2 isn't the same as (2i)^2

                              I assume that's what you're saying, because otherwise, that 4=2 comes out of nowhere.

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