Religion MUST be evil

[iPatcH]

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This is just a quick and (quite possibly) not a good worded statement since I don't feel like typing a lot right now but...

The reason I'm an atheist is not because I hate religion in general. It's because religion causes a lot of ignorance and hate itself. I, myself, am a peaceful man. I do not want to be associated with any form of hate at all. That is why I'm an atheist.

Saying that something is the root of all evil is actually being ignorant, no matter how you see it. Even Osama bin Laden, I might add. Sure, he organized a disaster that killed over 3,000 people at once, but that doesn't mean he's evil. Yes, he should be punished, but that doesn't mean he's evil. He just let his hate grow too much. Things would be different if he wasn't so hateful.

Anyways, I'm done with this statement. Maybe I'll add more to it later. But I will say this before I finish; I don't hate you because of your religion, or any other quality. I'm just saying why religion isn't such a good thing.

[Laharl]

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I can't stand preaching. The whole world is becoming godless, get used to it. Your breed is slowly dieing.

Yeah, I know, people that believe in being kind to their neighbor ARE dying out. Guys like you that think it's perfectly okay to womanize and use people to further your own ends are unfortunately becoming the norm.

And we will see who's around in 10 years. If you're not a drunk passed out jobless on the side of the road, I will be quite, quite surprised.

[TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons]

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Yeah, I know, people that believe in being kind to their neighbor ARE dying out.

Being religious in and of itself has nothing to do with following the religious morals that are actually healthy, such as being kind and turning the other cheek. The percentage of "religious" people who follow these morals is pretty much a low single-digit number.
You prove it yourself by being all fanatical about your religion, and yet exploding into textual fire at Spec as soon as he insults you.
Religion is instant ultra-hypocritcalism, and is behind pretty much every major war in history.

Guys like you that think it's perfectly okay to womanize

Nothing wrong with that WHATSOEVER. That's what the human species was DESIGNED for. The "traditional family" (which isn't actually traditional) is FAR more unhealthy and uncommon, and always has been.

and use people to further your own ends

Anyone who would sacrifice their happiness in the long term to fulfill someone else's expectations is a complete tool and is pissing away their life.

And we will see who's around in 10 years. If you're not a drunk passed out jobless on the side of the road, I will be quite, quite surprised.

I'm sorry, did you just imply that Spec is going to do poorly in life because he's not religious? You're retarded.

[Hr2]

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well, with religion, my take on it is, it's possible it may not be true, and trying to think about how it may be true really just makes me go into a worse spot than I am, but really, there is no bad side of religion. If I die believing I will go to heaven, and there is no heaven, I have lost nothing of my life. Is it really a bad thing?

Except, most religions say that if you're not ours, you go to hell. Since there are hundreds and hundreds of different sects of different religions, who's to say which one knows what's right and which one REALLY owns a heaven.

So lets just take TODAY's religions.

Catholicism
Orthodox
Protestant
Shiit Muslim
Sunni Muslim
Hinduism
Buddhism
Sikh
Judaism

and everyone's favorite, scientology.

So which one to choose? Any protestant will tell you their specific sect is the best, any hindu will tell you that their religion is the best, any catholic will tell you that catholicism is the only true religion.

You know what? I think my spirituality is better placed in myself than some ficticious god, you don't need to go to church and you don't need to pray to be spiritual in your own way. You only need yourself.

I used to be Catholic, and pretty damn religious too, then I started questioning the whole idea of "divine intervention" and the purpose of prayer. I noticed that prayer never did anything for me, it made you feel like someone else was listening, although they would never respond back and all it would do is make you feel like some day god would miraculously come down and fix all your problems. But he never does, and never will. Instead I would rather spend periods of introspection, surveying myself in a more spiritual way than one would casually look at themselves. I find this much more satisfying.

ps lol at nonreligious people not being able to succeed, you're really ****ing dumb sir 8)

ps move to canada and you'll realize everyone is really ****ing nice to each other

[Specforces]

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Let's give everyone a backstory. Casey thinks that I am a womanizer and an alcoholic. I haven't drank in 4 months(and when I did drink it was once every other weekend, and NEVER more than enough to get me slightly drunk, I've never blacked out from Alcohol.), a thing didn't work out between me and an girl that Casey also happened to like. Casey, I'm at the Air Force Academy right now, arguabley one of the best universities in the country. I am doing very well, I am enjoying myself. 4 years from now I will be in the U.S. Air Force serving as a Second Lt. Soon after that I'll be either a Combat Rescue Officer or Pilot, depending on what I decide in the next 4 years. The only people that will be lying on the side of the road are the targets I either,

1. Kill in the line of saving someone else
or
2. Targets of 2000 Lb Jdam missiles

So you "threatening" my success is of little consequence, I'm going places Casey, they didn't appoint me second in command of my class for nothing. I have a natural ability of Leadership and I don't exhibit it over the internet because the internet isn't that serious.

So, that being said, that's the last time I say anything remotely serious to you, because you obviously lack the ability to listen to anyone but yourself, or at least suck it up and stop yourself before you say something extremely stupid.

Cheers

[TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons]

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[Hr2]

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Rai, I like it!

[TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons]

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I wish I had created it. =(

[ddr_dude]

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Because that guy who called you a bad name goes to church on sunday, as opposed to that other guy who beat you up in middle school that claimed God was false.
/sarcasm

Listen up, tools.

Religion is not evil. In fact, it is near essential to the well being and good nature of mankind. The fact that religions happen to be run by very real, very human people, does not make that religion false, does not make that religion EVIL.

INTOLERANCE is the root of all evil. You who claim that religions are there simply to brainwash people so that the people who operate that religion can gain power, are everything you despise. How can you call a man stupid, ignorant, false, evil, simply for him choosing to follow God? Because once upon a time you were discriminated against by someone that had a holier-than-thou attitude? My guess is that is at least part of your hatred. Realize you are being a hypocrite, and then go perfect thyself.

/soap box

Im not going say all religion is evil, just that its all corrupt. All religion is just another excuse for a person to not like another. In order to fix it we need change but we as a society hate change so it will never happen. Religion is just here so we can have a reason to blame something that was our fault on something we call "God". People need to take responsibility for their own actions and stop blaming "God" for all their problems.

[TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons]

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All religion is just another excuse for a person to not like another.

Not originally in its purest form, but for a long time it has been, yes.

Religion in most cases is essentially just a control tool now, and has been for who knows how long.

[TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons]

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The entire reason religion developed in the first place, and why it strives, even to this day, is because people can't or don't like thinking for themselves.

STAGGERING TRUTH

[Cenright]

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Religion is nothing more to keep people occupied, it's a system created totally for the sake of keeping people "looking" "searching" "seeking" or whatever you would like to call it, for this so called "truth" or inner bliss.

Yes Scottish, that is the outside viewpoint. Because I am on the inside, I see it the exact opposite way. That God and religion are the truth, not the world as we see it today. Satan being the one getting people caught up in the world, and away from God. Another reason why most religions seem skewed. So when I say I look for the truth, I am looking for unskewed pure worship.
(Revelation 12:9)
"....the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entre inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth..."
(2 Corinthians 4:4)
"....the god of this system of things (Satan) has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through."

If the point of religion is to keep faith alive, or having people create an illusion, or a semi-reality within the world, then yes, it has succeeded.

Actually as said in the last section, I believe the people to be using the world to run away from the truth. You immerse yourself in the world, to be away from religion.

Differences in perspectives on the same subject but with opposite veiws tend to offend people easier, especially the one's where religion (or whatever we are talking about) are a priorty in life. Honestly, this is the easiest way to start a fight, conflict, or even war.

Yes. This is where religions being skewed comes in, and the exact reason why Jehovah's Witnesses will face prison sentences instead of go to war. Witnesses were actually in the WWII Nazi concentration camps too.

If a system was set up where each belief within ones self was accepted everywhere, it would technically be anarchy, in which " My belief comes before yours, I believe murder is ok, so I will kill for the sake of killing", or "I am the hand of god, I will destroy you", etc. etc.. which, was why the entire system was created in the first place.

Again, a skewed system is how Satan gets people turned off from looking deeper past all the guff on the surface, to find what really exists at the core of the bible.

All religion is just another excuse for a person to not like another.

Not originally in its purest form, but for a long time it has been, yes.

Religion in most cases is essentially just a control tool now, and has been for who knows how long.

(This is why I search for that pure form.)



(Oh, and Rai's comic. I can answer the "Why is there evil/Why does God allow suffering" question, but whether you want to hear it or not, is up to you, because it is a bible discussion.)

[Oh, and I don't do Christmas either, being that it is just another thing that was skewed through time. (Saturnalia)]

[scottish]

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I totally respect what you believe in Cen, and thats good that you are devoted to your religion.
I just don't see how people can be, lets see, so in love with a god, or whatever you believe in.
Veiwing this from "my outside point" (meaning, non religious), the bible, most religous stories, etc.. seem more of children stories rather than the foundation of a religion. Also you must include the fact that, if events like that actually happened, your talking about a few thousand years of translating one document into another, rewritting, and so on.
No two people think exactly alike, nor do they see the same event that occured. (that actually contradicts itself, if I say same, what am I basing same off of?). Our minds sometime's see what they only want to see, creating a false image stuck within ourselves where we think we actually are seeing something, when we actually aren't.
I do believe that some occurences with a man in the past that people veiwed as "a god like figure" happened in the past, but sprung out as a hero's tale, something to have people look up to.
Again, that is just what I believe. I honestly, really, have listened to many people brag about their religion, or beliefs, and have taken alot of information in, that I do like to think about. Yet, none of it makes sense in my head, so this is what I like to stick to.
It just doesn't make sense to me, going into a church, and praying. In my perspective, someone who is doing that is basically going into some building, and talking to themselves in their mind. It's just that whole mind distortion again, making yourself see something that you want to see, and seeing it, clogging you from the actual perspective of reality. Your saying "words", words. Do you think words exist anywhere besides on this planet? Why would words have such power, it's a man made creation, just like time, something that was created several billion years after anything else existed.
Time existed before time was made. We just associate numbers with it to interpret easier, so in a sense, just like I am typing right now, I am writing words we interpret words. Someone reads these words, they interpret these words, and then provide a meaning to it. If you think about it, if someone misread one, just one word in a sentence, it could totally change an entire meaning. Using this, I find it very hard that over "3000 years" or whatever, those EXACT words that this document contained, were transcribed perfectly. It's technically a giant game of telephone.
I probably went off track here, but I am just stating what comes to mind. I actually think better at night, so I'll be back later.

[TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons]

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(Oh, and Rai's comic. I can answer the "Why is there evil/Why does God allow suffering" question, but whether you want to hear it or not, is up to you, because it is a bible discussion.)

Too bad it's a terrible answer and you don't have an answer for pretty much everything else.