Religion MUST be evil

[Specforces]

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I'm getting at the fact that you are taking a PsuedoDDR game message board seriously. Praise god. I can't wait till my main focus in life is to kill religious fanatics, I'll think of you when I'm severing their heads Casey.

[Chrissi]

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Why is there so much hate here?

Why can't you all just look at my avatar and be happy?

See? Penis with wings! Stupid greeks!

[Specforces]

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I can't stand preaching. The whole world is becoming godless, get used to it. Your breed is slowly dieing.

[Chrissi]

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Well I don't like preaching either... but comeon, it's just the internets.

[Specforces]

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My words may appear to have a sting to them, but they are hardly meaningful. What the fool does with his life is of little consequence. We'll see who's where in 10 years.

[Chrissi]

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Well you came across as kind of harsh to me.. but so did laharl, though he seemed only to be in a bad mood and reacting to you.

[Specforces]

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I'm not harsh, I'm a nice guy that loves peace and flowers and god.

[Tokzic]

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The entire reason religion developed in the first place, and why it strives, even to this day, is because people can't or don't like thinking for themselves.

I'd like to commend Afro for saying exactly what I was going to post immediately after reading Laharl's first post.

I've probably said this before, and no doubt I'm going to have to say it again: Organized religion is retarded beyond belief (*pun*).

I have gone into a Christian church before, and got into a conversation with one of the frequent goers there. He asked me why I had just come for the first time, and whether I was really a Christian or not. I said, "Yeah, pretty much." "What do you mean by pretty much?" he asked. "Oh, well, I believe in a few random things that the church doesn't exactly believe in, like reincarnation and some other more quirky things."

The pompous idiot then gave me a look of contempt and, in a tone that sounded as though his snottiness was bubbling up his throat, said, "Well, then you're not a Christian, are you?"

As far as I see it, personal beliefs should be kept to yourself. If people with the exact same beliefs want to join together, then that's dandy, but that doesn't happen - people change their beliefs to be accepted into a religious sect, and that is crossing the line of reason and idiot.

As if that's not bad enough, we get religions that think they have a right to go door to door trying to tell us that our beliefs are wrong and that we should change to theirs. That is garbage. The next time I get a Whoever's Servant knocking on my door and giving me a pamphlet to change my beliefs, I am going to smack them with it. I don't even know where they get the idea that their beliefs are so good that they can go door-to-door trying to convert people - but then, I don't even know why brainless dolts buy into it, either.

Also, Spec, you may not have noticed, but this is Critical Thinking. Of course, religion topics in Critical Thinking are discouraged for a reason - they end up as pointless bickering, like so.

[Bahamut-X]

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I don't choose to believe in something that doesn't provide satisfactory proof. It's as simple as that for me.

There was this one time in the morning before school, I was eating breakfast and turned on the tv and this preacher show or whatever was on (my kitchen tv has like 6 channels so I watched that). The lady actually had the nerve to say "Don't ask why, god, why, instead say god I trust you, I trust you". It was in response to something like the issue of why god could let suffering go on on so many places in the world. I found that statement completely ricidulous. Basically what she's saying is "Don't ask for reasons, just blindly follow what you hear!"

[Cenright]

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If people with the exact same beliefs want to join together, then that's dandy, but that doesn't happen - people change their beliefs to be accepted into a religious sect, and that is crossing the line of reason and idiot.

Actually, you are right in many cases, and that is kinda sad.

I am devoted to being one of Jehovah's Witnesses, and make this choice on my own, not because of my parents. Actually, my dad is against Witnesses, and I still continue this path.

I am a Witness because I believe it to be the truth, and I have done a lot of researching to feel that way.

There will always be people searching for truth, and not just a cool religion. Those are people who will spend time asking questions, and only believing what they themselves can find out.

Too many people look for a religion that fits a lifestyle, and just leave it at: "Oh well, these are my beliefs." So many times, it is because it is something that isn't of the greatest importance, and so beliefs be come a persons trivial feelings. I feel that religion is an important subject, so saying: "Oh well, these are my beliefs." isn't good enough for me. I want the truth, and I spend:
1 Hour each Tuesday
2 Hours each Thrusday
2 Hours each Sunday
These are times I spend with the rest of the congregation, attempting to understand the truths of the bible, with the reviewing of scriptures, and the answering of questions. This doesn't even count time I spend in the door-to-door work, or personal study time.

I found that statement completely ricidulous. Basically what she's saying is "Don't ask for reasons, just blindly follow what you hear!"

People that just blindly follow are not using the resource that God has given to us. That would be the bible. Written by man, but inspired by God. This is a gift, yet so many people just "Believe". Someone had to look in it first, so why don't you also? When this bothers people, there are two different ways people deal with it. They say that they are stupid, and so they drop the subject as stupid also or are just to lazy to look on their own.
Then there is a minority of people that actually determine to find the truth. Instead of just believing... Instead of just being turned off by blind followings.


Religion is important to me. Or, if you want to put it another way. The truth about God, is important to me.

[banditcom]

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In fact, it is near essential to the well being and good nature of mankind.

How? Because there is some basis to provide morals on? lol...

This guy does a good job explaining things (exactly how I feel too).

http://www.asktheatheist.com/question/where_do_atheists_get_their_morals_from

*applauds Cen* ++ points for you but a - for the door-to-door, regardless of how you view it. But still that's a + for you. :P I used to be agnostic but the more I thought and more I put time into it, I became atheist.

[Cenright]

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Thanks, Bandit.

[scottish]

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Yes, I agree with you Cen, and Bandit, actually, most of you.
I do have alot of doubts, and also "truths" or however you would like to put it, in my beliefs and the beliefs of others, or in the beliefs of religion.
IMO, Religion is nothing more to keep people occupied, it's a system created totally for the sake of keeping people "looking" "searching" "seeking" or whatever you would like to call it, for this so called "truth" or inner bliss.
I totally respect if you are devoted to a religion, or not, yet I do get slightly irritated when people either preach, or try to spread their own beliefs.
When I'm required to talk, or write about my beliefs, I always include a note or subwriting hinting that I am not preaching, beliefs should be found within one's own perspective, yet I am only stating what I believe in, for the sake of other people veiwing or criticizing it. If the point of religion is to keep faith alive, or having people create an illusion, or a semi-reality within the world, then yes, it has succeeded. On another note, look at this topic. There has been about nine or ten times that someone has either took something personal or reacted rudely, and thats where religion fails, horribly.
When the system was set up, many people did not have personal beliefs, nor did they have as much freedom as we do today. We can openly speak about practically anything, and not be punished for it. Yet, taking into the numerous amounts of beliefs that have branched off of what it's purpose was, leaves a massive amount of "differences" or extremes that totally inflict damage to someone's feelings on their beliefs.
Differences in perspectives on the same subject but with opposite veiws tend to offend people easier, especially the one's where religion (or whatever we are talking about) are a priorty in life. Honestly, this is the easiest way to start a fight, conflict, or even war.
If a system was set up where each belief within ones self was accepted everywhere, it would technically be anarchy, in which " My belief comes before yours, I believe murder is ok, so I will kill for the sake of killing", or "I am the hand of god, I will destroy you", etc. etc.. which, was why the entire system was created in the first place.
It's kind of a "catch 22", where either way won't work, so the next best thing is to take what majority believe in, and apply it to society. Government works the exact way.
Heh, see, I'm now writing a long response in which, half of you will read, and half will not, and I get caught on this subject alot. Yes, I know, I am only stating this, I'm not implying that this is what you should believe in, or that it is correct, but for me, this is what I hold to be true.

[banditcom]

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++ for scottish

[jewpinthethird]

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Religion is never stagnate and plays an important rule in society for it sets morals, as I am sure many of you agree that murder is wrong.

Theology, however, is what defines and conceptualizes the beliefs of a religion and it is theology that remains stagnate and prohibits the evolution of man.