Re: Suicide- Ethical?
Why am I not surprised the person whose morality is judged by the law is Texan?
(oops, did I just post that?)
Someone said that religion isn't an issue here. It clearly is. Religion usually defines what is moral or not.
I also think that people dying in wars belongs in this topic, the topic being people dying by someone else's hands. It doesn't really make sense that to kill people during a war for some higher purpose or belief is acceptable, but to kill someone for a personal reason, (in my mind, the personal ones are the ones which actually MATTER because people are what really matter), such as killing someone who raped you, will land you in jail.
I don't live in the US. Do people really get sent to jail for attempted suicide in some states? That's BS. I know its illegal in Canada, but they don't put you in jail. Not only is it immoral, its stupid. Jail is there to separate the people who wreak chaos on society from those who don't, in a supposedly moral, and expensive, way. Some states still believe in executing extreme troublemakers. So tell me, how is putting someone in jail more of a help then just letting them be to try suicide again in terms of societal value? Because we ARE talking about what's best for society here. If they want to get rid of themselves, who are we to stop them?
Of course, I believe in helping out the individual, so that they will eventually not want to kill themselves, but continue living. Its all about the individuals for me, in terms of my morality. Why should we place abstract ideals above the suffering of an individual?
Everyone has their right to choose whether they want to live or not. However, people who do want to commit suicide because they feel horrible should think not only about their personal pain and stopping it, but also about the pain it will cause others they know. They key point here is as little pain as possible, and as much happiness as possible. Even if you're not happy, you can still make others happy. In one way, I see that something's better than nothing, even if that something is usually hurt. But I'm not going to impose on someone that they shouldn't kill themselves, and I'm certainly not going to think them immoral. If its someone I care about, and I'd be given a chance, I'd beg them to not do it, and I'd probably offer all the help I could to try and make them happy again.
Why am I not surprised the person whose morality is judged by the law is Texan?
(oops, did I just post that?)
Someone said that religion isn't an issue here. It clearly is. Religion usually defines what is moral or not.
I also think that people dying in wars belongs in this topic, the topic being people dying by someone else's hands. It doesn't really make sense that to kill people during a war for some higher purpose or belief is acceptable, but to kill someone for a personal reason, (in my mind, the personal ones are the ones which actually MATTER because people are what really matter), such as killing someone who raped you, will land you in jail.
I don't live in the US. Do people really get sent to jail for attempted suicide in some states? That's BS. I know its illegal in Canada, but they don't put you in jail. Not only is it immoral, its stupid. Jail is there to separate the people who wreak chaos on society from those who don't, in a supposedly moral, and expensive, way. Some states still believe in executing extreme troublemakers. So tell me, how is putting someone in jail more of a help then just letting them be to try suicide again in terms of societal value? Because we ARE talking about what's best for society here. If they want to get rid of themselves, who are we to stop them?
Of course, I believe in helping out the individual, so that they will eventually not want to kill themselves, but continue living. Its all about the individuals for me, in terms of my morality. Why should we place abstract ideals above the suffering of an individual?
Everyone has their right to choose whether they want to live or not. However, people who do want to commit suicide because they feel horrible should think not only about their personal pain and stopping it, but also about the pain it will cause others they know. They key point here is as little pain as possible, and as much happiness as possible. Even if you're not happy, you can still make others happy. In one way, I see that something's better than nothing, even if that something is usually hurt. But I'm not going to impose on someone that they shouldn't kill themselves, and I'm certainly not going to think them immoral. If its someone I care about, and I'd be given a chance, I'd beg them to not do it, and I'd probably offer all the help I could to try and make them happy again.
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