Aliens? Existent or NON-existent [warning contains religion]

[drake_legendz]

This is a top many of you most likely won't like due to the fact that it questions our creation and religion.




It's a question men have ponderd since we first learnt that space was a vast emptiness that seemed to go on forever, ARE we alone in the whole of space or is there other sentiant life forms out there. One thing that comes to my mind is that it might be possible. What if gods really were not gods after all, what if in fact they were a very advanced race of lifeforms who discovered our low tech planet and it's simple lifeforms....Think about it. It is said in the Christian bible that god (or was it jesus? I don't know im not christian) came down on a chariot of fire. What if in fact this "chariot" was really a landing pod from the life forms space ship? I for one have a hard time beleive that we are the only life forms in the whole vastness of space. Heres something else to think about. What if humans were just a science project thet got out of hand for a more advanced race of beings that we thought wer really gods? Would it not explain why they no longer have contact with us? The christians beleive that god created the world in seven days. Maybe it was created in seven days but not by a god.

[MCRenaissance]

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The universe is huge. Sure there might be other life forms out there but it is highly unlikely. I'm not going to go through this by the religion form but scientifically. How we managed to be was an event that was a one in a million shot. For something like this to happen else where is highly unlikely. I don't believe in creationism. I understand why other people do but I don't. My whole family is very religious but I would rather believe in facts.

[GuidoHunter]

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One, this has been done a billion times in CT. I'll sum up the answer: the universe is too grand for us to be the only living organisms. It's possible that we are, but not very. Everything you speak of regarding aliens cannot be debated because it's practically a scientific construct.

Two, could you give verse numbers for that chariot of fire line?

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[lord_carbo]

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Other inhabitable planets with life are probably the way nature intended for the Earth to be in the first place before humans came along, and even then, it's quite doubtful that any civilized lifeforms are able to travel across millions of lightyears to explore and conquer other places. They're probably NOTHING like the stereotyped aliens in the movies.

[Suzuru]

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Other intelligent life-forms exist without a doubt. The universe is too big for that not to be possible. We do exist, just that fact alone should be proof enough.
As for aliens traveling across millions of light years. Just because we can't envision it, doesn't mean it's not true. "Teh aliens might have had a lot more time to develop both tech, bio or whatever uncomprehensible way to achieve means of interstellar, dimesion, time, whatever travel. Who knows there might be 11 dimensions for all we know... heh"

[Reach]

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How we managed to be was an event that was a one in a million shot.

Oh really? And this statistic was found where?

Not to mention, even if this statistic was true, which it is not, then there should be billions or even trillions of planets with life on them.

The question isn't if, I'd say it's where, and how. The idea of life on other planets is very intriguing. Too bad I won't be around thousands of years from now to see if we ever make contact.

[drake_legendz]

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One, this has been done a billion times in CT. I'll sum up the answer: the universe is too grand for us to be the only living organisms. It's possible that we are, but not very. Everything you speak of regarding aliens cannot be debated because it's practically a scientific construct.

Two, could you give verse numbers for that chariot of fire line?

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

No guido I can't sorry as I said I don't beleive in religeon I just rember hearing about it in morals class. I beleive in facts and figures not storys and fiction. I do beleive there are other life forms out there like us. We most likely havin't seen any because (don't mean to sound idiotic but its a possiblity and this is just something that helps explain) theres is a chance that they are like the vulcans form star trek. They don't beleive in meddling with under developed societys.On another note there are too many unexplained things built. IE the easter island heads, stone henge. It was impossible to be build for the time they were.

[Patashu]

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Or perhaps we haven't seen them because, in fact, they AREN'T the super-advanced nanotech etc. society you'd like to think of them as?

[BluE_MeaniE]

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No guido I can't sorry as I said I don't beleive in religeon I just rember hearing about it in morals class. I beleive in facts and figures not storys and fiction. I do beleive there are other life forms out there like us. We most likely havin't seen any because (don't mean to sound idiotic but its a possiblity and this is just something that helps explain) theres is a chance that they are like the vulcans form star trek. They don't beleive in meddling with under developed societys.On another note there are too many unexplained things built. IE the easter island heads, stone henge. It was impossible to be build for the time they were.

What you're talking about is about as religious as you can get, as well as non-scientific.

Going "oh, aliens did it" is the same as "oh, god did it".

[Triplex72]

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Did you watch this on Tv today? I did. Cant remember what channel, possibly The biography Channel Or Space. I dunno.

[Grandiagod]

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The universe hueg and old. The chances of life forming in another part of it are very likely. The statistics and odds almost demand it.

[Patashu]

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Yes, the universe is indeed 'hueg'.

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I'm sorry. I had to do it.

[GuidoHunter]

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No guido I can't sorry as I said I don't beleive in religeon I just rember hearing about it in morals class. I beleive in facts and figures not storys and fiction. I do beleive there are other life forms out there like us. We most likely havin't seen any because (don't mean to sound idiotic but its a possiblity and this is just something that helps explain) theres is a chance that they are like the vulcans form star trek. They don't beleive in meddling with under developed societys.On another note there are too many unexplained things built. IE the easter island heads, stone henge. It was impossible to be build for the time they were.

Wow, you cite hearsay and expect that to be worth something? Then you not-so-subtly insult religion with a rather smug attitude and still expect to be taken seriously? Sheesh, get out.

This forum is about critical thinking, not science fiction. Sure, aliens could look like vulcans, mold, or us. This is not critical thinking. What other potentially existent life forms postulate about us isn't worth squat in a discussion on extraterrestrial life. I already told you what the end result of EVERY debate on the subject is. That's it, at least without dragging religion into it. I'm trying to be scientific here, not religious. I'd have a scientific discussion if it hadn't been done a hundred times already. But you talk about what aliens could look like. I'll answer it: anything. You know why? Because there's no inkling of proof or suggestion that they could be one thing or another. Whether it be Vulcans or Klingons or anything else is WORTHLESS as a manner of fueling discussion.

Come back when you have something of value to discuss.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[mattyohh]

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Aliens exist, they're called mexicans.

[drake_legendz]

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Wow, you cite hearsay and expect that to be worth something? Then you not-so-subtly insult religion with a rather smug attitude and still expect to be taken seriously? Sheesh, get out.

This forum is about critical thinking, not science fiction. Sure, aliens could look like vulcans, mold, or us. This is not critical thinking. What other potentially existent life forms postulate about us isn't worth squat in a discussion on extraterrestrial life. I already told you what the end result of EVERY debate on the subject is. That's it, at least without dragging religion into it. I'm trying to be scientific here, not religious. I'd have a scientific discussion if it hadn't been done a hundred times already. But you talk about what aliens could look like. I'll answer it: anything. You know why? Because there's no inkling of proof or suggestion that they could be one thing or another. Whether it be Vulcans or Klingons or anything else is WORTHLESS as a manner of fueling discussion.

Come back when you have something of value to discuss.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

Guido please don't be moronic and read my post correctly I was not saying WHAT they look like I was taling about their mentality towards interfering with an under devolped society.Before you coment on somones posts please read the m troughly with an open mind. I know its hard for you but please try.