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  • Afrobean
    Admiral in the Red Army
    • Dec 2003
    • 13262

    #16
    Re: The power of HHO?

    Originally posted by Reach
    Parts would collapse.

    I mean, you can get water for free. And you can charge a battery for free. Do you actually think they're going to let you drive for free? XD

    I have a feeling there will be a catch somewhere. rofl. Something along the lines of only a certain water being able to run the engine so you have to pay for it. Or if not that, they will find a way to suck the money you used to pay for gasoline out of you.
    I'd be inclined to agree with you, except that this technology must be relatively simple to create. How else could it be developed by a company like this instead of like 3m or something? I'd imagine that it wouldn't be too hard for the average person who knows their way around technology and science to find out how to do this themselves.

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    • -Izzy-
      Banned
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Nov 2005
      • 1629

      #17
      Re: The power of HHO?

      As long as the world doesnt blow up now then im good. Maybe its all a scam so that we invest in stock. And then they are like. rofl jk.

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      • talisman
        Resident Penguin
        FFR Simfile Author
        • May 2003
        • 4598

        #18
        Re: The power of HHO?

        reach... water isn't free. Neither is charging a battery. Utilities? Also, it has to be distilled water for this to work.

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        • gerbi7
          FFR Player
          • Feb 2006
          • 276

          #19
          Re: The power of HHO?

          It's not a scam. This kind of technology has been in development for quite a while anyways.

          And yes, a guy could figure this out in a garage. Just look at some companies, microsoft, google, all you need is someone who's willing to work harder than the rest of us lazy asses.

          This wouldn't completely get rid of our dependence on fossil fuels though. We still would burn oil for our electricity.

          That's where solar power comes in. You were born with solar power to begin with. It's called THE CARBON CYCLE. :O

          The flame isn't safe, probably just really hot right at the tip. You notice how he puts the tip right next to the metal. Any combustion isn't safe at high temperatures. Get used to it.



          Edit:Talisman is also right. Distilled water isn't free, but is very cheap, and electricity isn't free, but from the film, it doesn't seem to take that much electricity.


          But it really isn't a big deal. All he's done is find an efficient way transform electrical energy into fire, in an evironmentally safe way, using water, the most common molecule on earth!

          CUT IT WITH THE MEDIA HYPE FOR GOD'S SAKE.
          Last edited by gerbi7; 05-23-2006, 04:25 PM. Reason: Talisman posts while I post
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          • Reach
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Jun 2003
            • 7471

            #20
            Re: The power of HHO?

            Originally posted by talisman
            reach... water isn't free. Neither is charging a battery. Utilities? Also, it has to be distilled water for this to work.
            Ok mr. smarty pants. I could get 8 oz of water out of my tap for a few cents.

            And it's not like charging a battery is expensive in comparison to gas XD

            As for the last comment, yea. Looks like distilled water sales would go up? Or can you get a distiller installed on your tap? XD


            And uh, afro, that's true, but, people can build their own computers. How many people build their own computers? It's not like people are going to be running around installing things and figuring out how this works.
            Last edited by Reach; 05-23-2006, 04:31 PM.

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            • talisman
              Resident Penguin
              FFR Simfile Author
              • May 2003
              • 4598

              #21
              Re: The power of HHO?

              uh, it kind of is a big deal. This is a new form of water he's discovered. And it is a HUGE deal to figure out how to harness the energy of water for combustion. Scientists had given up on that for years.

              Unless you were being sarcastic? Because statements like this contradict themselves:

              Originally posted by dude
              But it really isn't a big deal. All he's done is find an efficient way transform electrical energy into fire, in an evironmentally safe way, using water, the most common molecule on earth!
              yeah ok maybe that is sarcasm then.


              EDIT: the point reach is that nothing is free... obviously.

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              • gerbi7
                FFR Player
                • Feb 2006
                • 276

                #22
                Re: The power of HHO?

                If you actually to some critical thinking, and know about energy transformations, it doesn't contradict itself.



                And it isn't water.

                It's another molecule that can be easily made with water and electricity, and burned to release stored energy, and give water as the end product. Like a rechargeable battery.


                I also request a short ban for you for your inablility to put my name in that quote.
                Last edited by gerbi7; 05-23-2006, 04:50 PM.
                Squirrels are evil.

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                • talisman
                  Resident Penguin
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • May 2003
                  • 4598

                  #23
                  Re: The power of HHO?

                  No... quit being dense. You say first that it's not a big deal. Then you go "yeah they're just doing blah blah blat" (which I understand completely)... except that what they're doing IS a big deal. Just because you understand the energetics doesn't mean it isn't important. This is huge.

                  Also, if you actually read the paper, you'd notice that they DO make the claim that it is a different form of water (the HHO part of the gas, that is).

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                  • gerbi7
                    FFR Player
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 276

                    #24
                    Re: The power of HHO?

                    It's only huge once people actually completely drop non-renewable energy sources for electricity and learn to use the sun. Sorry buddy. =\


                    The paper knows nothing. Journalists did not necessarily pass chemistry.
                    If a well-respected chemist said it, then it would be different.
                    Squirrels are evil.

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                    • Cj_leonine
                      FFR Player
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 2070

                      #25
                      Re: The power of HHO?

                      Ha take that Japan!

                      ps. I almost peed myself from the sexyness of the HH0.
                      Status: Innactive Onehander

                      Best FC Before Avmiss Fix: . Be Princess . Hellbeat . End Night

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                      • gerbi7
                        FFR Player
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 276

                        #26
                        Re: The power of HHO?

                        America: where the best scienists are losers that invent things in their garages.


                        You peed yourself. Nice.
                        Squirrels are evil.

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                        • -Izzy-
                          Banned
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 1629

                          #27
                          Re: The power of HHO?

                          it will be funny in 500 years when we run out of water.

                          And the lady said it was one of the most abundant materials in the universe.. lol no.

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                          • gerbi7
                            FFR Player
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 276

                            #28
                            Re: The power of HHO?

                            Originally posted by -Izzy-
                            it will be funny in 500 years when we run out of water.

                            And the lady said it was one of the most abundant materials in the universe.. lol no.
                            ...

                            Did I not mention a analogy to charging a battery?

                            You get the water that you used to make the "HHO" back when you burn it.
                            Just like you get your dead battery back after you use it.

                            And then you reuse it. =)
                            Last edited by gerbi7; 05-23-2006, 05:39 PM. Reason: Spelling error: "the" should be "then"
                            Squirrels are evil.

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                            • talisman
                              Resident Penguin
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • May 2003
                              • 4598

                              #29
                              Re: The power of HHO?

                              the SCIENTIFIC paper. Written by a scientist. The .pdf I posted.

                              And this blows solar power out of the water (no pun intended). Not only is solar power relatively quite expensive and less efficient, it's also region-dependent. It boggles my mind that you don't realize what an advance this represents.

                              Not to mention the fact that it's a form of matter with a comlpetely different kind of bond never before seen.

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                              • gerbi7
                                FFR Player
                                • Feb 2006
                                • 276

                                #30
                                Re: The power of HHO?

                                Different form of matter than H2O = different molecule as far as I'm concerned.


                                Solar panels are already efficient.

                                Room really isn't a problem. Just think of all the surface area we have from rooftops.

                                Region-dependent my arse. There's something called WIRES.
                                Squirrels are evil.

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