A question about gays/lesbians

[Afrobean]

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Simply being raised in the same household does not result in the same childhood.

That is interesting though. The thing about your aunt/sister, that is.

[stretchypanda]

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It's true. Apparently my sister was abused by some schoolmates and has all kinds of emotional problems.

Just saying, though. My mom was raised in a pretty sheltered home, as were my sister and I.

[Z3ratul]

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I firmly believe that it is society that causes gays to be gays and heteros to be heteros. At one point in Japan, homosexuality was practiced by the majority of people (I don't know the whole story, I heard it in passing on the Discovery Channel or something). They probably asked the question: "Why are heterosexuals heterosexuals?"

Today, those who are homosexual tend to be more progressive, open, liberal, and against traditional values. We are in a society that is dominated by a religion which believes in monogamy and heterosexuality. Therefore, those who are gay must fight against the norm and be different. If heterosexuality was frowned upon by the average person, than the more progressive and open people would tend to be gay.

I think that it is partially genetic, as those traits I speak of above could be partially attributed to genes, but I mostly believe that society's constraints cause gays to be gay.

That's all great, and makes sense but the thing that it doesn't consider is the fact that homosexuality (not in practice, but theory) is anti-procreation.

[Grandiagod]

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Maybe it's a gene that manifests equally but is not passed down?

[Afrobean]

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That's all great, and makes sense but the thing that it doesn't consider is the fact that homosexuality (not in practice, but theory) is anti-procreation.

So I guess people who simply don't like children and plan on not having them have mutated genes as well.

Oh, and don't forget people who commit suicide. They definitely have mutated genes too.

[Z3ratul]

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So I guess people who simply don't like children and plan on not having them have mutated genes as well.

Oh, and don't forget people who commit suicide. They definitely have mutated genes too.

That's not what I implied and you know it.

[T0rajir0u]

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Not bothering to read the rest of this thread (it's probably retarded), but I promise not to flame or anything.

I really was thinking, why are gays/lesbians still on the planet? If it is ideal to be "straight" in order to have children and pass on your traits, wouldn't the "gay" genes eventually be elimiated?

Keyword: "eventually."

The major problem with your question, though, is that you assume gayness is absolute, and encapsulated in a single gene: that people are either genetically, 100% gay or genetically 0% gay.

This is almost definitely wrong.

It's more likely that homosexuality is a complicated mixture of hormonal conditions, not all of which are even going to be genetic (the condition of the mother's womb, etc., will all play a part), which means that people will still be passing on genes that make them susceptible to hormonal conditions because they'll still be straight.

Or, in other words, that there are plenty of people who may have a genetic predisposition of some kind to homosexuality but that are not themselves homosexual, and those people aren't dying off from natural selection.

[ruifio894]

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Dude, I may not be right but I don't think sexual attraction has anything to do with genes or the human body. I just think it is perspective. Some people start out straight then end up gay. If it was genetics then wouldn't they be gay from the start of puberty and so on? Just adding a thought.

[Kinjiro]

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Uhh, my brother is gay, and its not like he made an active choice to become gay. He actually hated that fact that he was for a long time and wouldn't tell anyone. So its not like "oh im gonna rebel and be gay to piss of my parents". It just happened, and there's nothing he can do about it. People act like its a choice to be evil. WHY WOULD PEOPLE STAY IN THE CLOSET IF IT WAS A CHOICE? It goes with the territory that they are different, hence feared, misunderstood, and they are afraid too. Gay people can't help what they are. I hate it when people (especially evangelical douchebags) that insist they are gay on purpose, and the whole "You are going to hell, i don't care who you are, you're gay" thing makes me mad. Its not a choice, it just happens. I have a few gay friends, and they all said they didn't choose. Why don't people just ask them, wouldn't that answer a lot of questions instead of people speculating? They are people.

[Moogy]

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I like how most/all of the people arguing about this aren't even gay.

Meh.

[MalReynolds]

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I like how most/all of the people arguing about this aren't even gay.

Meh.

This thread more than proves they are.

[Kles]

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It's not a conscious choice. As you grow up, you simply find yourself more attracted to members of your own gender. Sometimes, you may still be attracted to the opposite gender. Sometimes, you're attracted to certain things about men, and certain things about women. The issue of sexuality is as far from black and white as possible. It's all grey. The only choice you make is the choice to act on what you truly are in nature or the choice to fake being straight.

The same can be said about transexuality as well as nonsexuality.

[businessman07]

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It's not a conscious choice. As you grow up, you simply find yourself more attracted to members of your own gender. Sometimes, you may still be attracted to the opposite gender. Sometimes, you're attracted to certain things about men, and certain things about women. The issue of sexuality is as far from black and white as possible. It's all grey. The only choice you make is the choice to act on what you truly are in nature or the choice to fake being straight.

The same can be said about transexuality as well as nonsexuality.

This person summed it up... and I agree with afro
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[COBOL]

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I'm pretty sure its as simple as preference.

[Moogy]

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It's not a conscious choice. As you grow up, you simply find yourself more attracted to members of your own gender. Sometimes, you may still be attracted to the opposite gender. Sometimes, you're attracted to certain things about men, and certain things about women. The issue of sexuality is as far from black and white as possible. It's all grey. The only choice you make is the choice to act on what you truly are in nature or the choice to fake being straight.

The same can be said about transexuality as well as nonsexuality.

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