peace can only be maintained with superior fire power

[russell35]

well i may not be as much of a critical thinker as all of you. but here goes.


id like to hear everyones opinoins on george bush/goverment/sadam, etc and there race for more weapons. i dont know much on this subject which is why i want an honest opinoin. i think that this will eventually be the cause for the end of the world. too many contries with nukes. and no one seems to be getting closer to disarming them. mabey when bush is out of office he can get back to his yayo, and leave america to a leader who, once he gets fooled once.....he uh....cant get fooled agian.


war..HU...what it is good for..absolutly nothing.

and im not anti-war...im not pro-war i will probably eventually join the army. not because im pro-war. but because im a drop out with no choice. im somewhere in the middle. i usually let everyone speak there mind about war..and just nod my head..because my opinoin usually gets on peoples nerves.

[DracIV]

RE: peace can only be maintained with superior fire power

I believe that the current trends are actually signals of complete peace. Currently the unified and unifying world powers are becoming essentially inseperable allies (i.e. can't be enemies) and we are slowly shutting down and remolding all the petty dictatorships and renegade little countries that could pose a threat. In time, I believe at this rate we will have a world with about a dozen unified countries and complete peace, with maybe a bit of bickering, but no killing.

[jazzmosis]

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War is not a step towards peace - only opression. Look at what happened in WW1 - Yugoslavian dictatorship started the war, Italy and Germany joined, Russia joined (dropped out in 1917 due to political change), but who got saddled with the blame? Germany, who in retrospect was only bandwagoning.

The "peace"/baggage Germany carried + Hitler ultimately lead to WW2. Once again, 4 million people died. More or less, 2-3 million of them were innocent that just were forced into the war. All over 1 man's belief.

Now America starts threatening countries. The latest on the list was Iran, Syria, Venezuela. Creating democracy by being a borderline fascist does NOT inspire peace. Look at Iraq. Do you consider that peace? If so, take a vacation there. It's "peace", and there's a "democracy" there. But where would you rather vacation, Canada or Iraq?

War does NOT create peace, it only furthers opression of cultures and society. There's other ways to achieve peace, we're (humanity) just far too up our own asses to see them.

[Tasselfoot]

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Jazz man..... PLEASE don't forget about the 6 million + people who were toasted crispy in death camps. They were all innocent and casualties of WW2.

Also, russell, welcome to CT. Good suggestion for you: proofread your posts before posting. People will bitch at you here for multiple spelling and grammar errors.

Lastly, I agree mostly with Drac. There are only a few countries that we have to worry about, mostly North Korea, when it comes to nukes. The South American countries don't have the technology. The rest of the world is loosely aligned together. Organizations like NATO and even the UN have really worked to unify the world.

[jazzmosis]

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I didn't forget about them, I just didn't know the number... so I didn't say anything.

[russell35]

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well ill let everyone know right away...when i post expect many punctuation or grammer errors. it doesnt really bother me..if you want to get OCD about it. dont read my posts.

hella off topic but what is it called when you base your opinoin only on what you hear from someone? with out knowing the facts first..and just beliving them.

[Tasselfoot]

RE: peace can only be maintained with superior fire power

well ill let everyone know right away...when i post expect many punctuation or grammer errors. it doesnt really bother me..if you want to get OCD about it. dont read my posts.

It bothers everyone in CT. So, respect the forum community and fix your spelling and grammar errors when posting in CT. Otherwise, you will piss alot of people off, get little to no respect, and be flamed. The english language is important to us. Thanks.

[russell35]

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i understand that i shouldnt butcher the english language. but i figure as long as you can read it and i get my message through then my task is complete. im just used to talking on chats or messenger. but in the future i will reread my posts and make any necessary corrections.

and whats the deal with the locked thread? why did it get locked so early? did i break a rule or something? let me know so i dont do it agian.

[Tasselfoot]

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It isn't critical thinking. Doesn't belong. I'll unlock the HH thread and move it, and change the title.

[trillobyite]

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Now America starts threatening countries. The latest on the list was Iran, Syria, Venezuela. Creating democracy by being a borderline fascist does NOT inspire peace. Look at Iraq. Do you consider that peace? If so, take a vacation there. It's "peace", and there's a "democracy" there. But where would you rather vacation, Canada or Iraq?

War does NOT create peace, it only furthers opression of cultures and society. There's other ways to achieve peace, we're (humanity) just far too up our own asses to see them.

Threatening countries...yeah, it is threatening potentially dangerous countries, not innocent and totally harmless nations like Poland. Iran has been known to be building nuclear weapons and based on corruption level in its government, it would be wise to take the precaution. Syria has been involved in a huge mess, not only with the assasination of the Lebanese Prime minister Hariri (and subsequent protests) but there are rumors that nuclear weapons might have been transferred there. Also, considering renegade forces like the Hezbollah hold quite an influence in the region, this is worry some. And Iraq is obviously not going to poof into a random state of peace out of nowhere, at least not with the foreign imported terrorists (who kill muslims as well) that rally to Zarqawi, who not only met with Bin Laden but even STATED that the "evil of democracy" must be combatted. Iraq is currently in a state of slow stabilization, and though there is a fair deal of corruption and scandals, it is inevitable.

War does not create peace, true, but war is a product of history and human nature. You can't look at it as something that can be prevented. What war CAN do is bring temporary peace, and freedom. Just like that famous poster said "Besides ending Fascism, communism, slavery, and nazism...war has never solved a thing!" Now war is the only way to end radical Islamic terrorism. Yeah, humanity will never find the way to end war. Therefore there is no point in trying to stop it.

[jazzmosis]

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Imposing your style of government (eg: Iraq) is in itself, a form of Fascism. I don't mean to offend, but the evidence to mounting: Bush's leadership style and his regime (if you will), is so far right it's bordering fascist.

I've said this before, but if America REALLY wanted to promote peace, they'd start in the country that REALLY needs it right now: Sudan.

[DracIV]

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Jazzmosis, that fascism is completely subjective or misinformed. Did you know that no government style was ever imposed on the Iraqis by the United States? Did you know that the recent election that the news was all talking about was an election to elect people to choose a government. The assumption is that Iraq will choose a form of democracy, but we are leaving it all up to Iraq. Nothing is being imposed. So get your facts straight before you make highly offensive accusations against our government. Rationality will conquer the world and make peace some day, whether that means the destruction of all humanity or a final harmony.

[QreepyBORIS]

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Yeah! We did not know that the Shi'ites would win! We have no way of making them our political puppet!

Oh, please.



Anyway, I think a whole lot more than 4 million soldiers died in WWII. The Russian blitz toward Berlin was like acting as a giant meat shield to absorb all of Germany's force. It killed EASILY a million Russian soldiers. Almost everyone was a casualty.

[DracIV]

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According to availible statistics:
Total Deaths/MIA in WWII = 14,566,111
Total Civilians Dead in Holocaust = ~11 million

[pfff]

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i think it depends on what kind of war, after watching a 2 minute flash movie, it changed my mind about all nuclear warfare. Beware, this movie shows the effects of nuclear things (lol i dont know the name) on humans, do not watch if you have a weak stomach or have fear of nuclear weapons. Also, this might freak you out a little if you watch it, but youve been warned. http://www.jokaroo.com/ecards/funny/...eduranium.html

So now how do you feel about nuclear war?