wats your interpretation?

[Poltech]

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Free verse poetry needs some sort of pattern, even though it is the least restricted of all forms of poetry it still needs a pattern (eg, each stanza has 7 syllables.)

[Squeek]

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Then maybe you should have spelled it right yourself.

Thanks for pointing out the ironic statement, Moogy.

~Squeek

[esupin]

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Face it dragon, modern poetry is as bad as modern art.

~Squeek

What's wrong with modern art? Unless you're talking about that weird surrealist type thing where the people draw some polygonal shapes on a piece of paper and call it art.

[Squeek]

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That and the way Jewpin classifies it.

"If it takes a paragraph or two to explain it, it's not art".

That's that.

~Squeek

[sleeplessdragn]

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Then maybe you should have spelled it right yourself.

sigh, next time i attempt to make a point by using a figurative system of irony, i will point it out to you by using bold and underline, suhkweak.

i suppose the difference between poetry and "essaying" is that poetry is much, much more dense. because poetry lacks the usual diluting words found in sentences, the impact of the poem is supposed to be many times greater. also, the broadness of poems can be interperted many different ways, which is appealing, as most people enjoy having variety and choice in their life. the only wrong answer you could give to an interpretation is that its BAD because it makes no sense to you or because it doesnt hand you the meaning in a baby's bottle for you to suck on and cry. <-----figurative language

[The_Q]

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Again, you assume that more words dillutes, when in actuallity, a large string of words can give a much stronger tone than just a few. For instance, Charles Dickens. I'm told that I can put this "voice" into my writing very well, even essays. Unfortunately, I don't think I've been posting to my full potential here so I'm afraid no one else has had to read such posts.

NOTE: I never said anything about the poem being bad because of it not making sense, it only attributes to the confusion that caused frustration. I will agree with Poltech, it had no format, it was all just insanity. If you had done it in verse I would have definately accepted it much more. Another thing that bothered me is that if you were trying to get a message accross, it seemed to be a rather naive message. Monsters, bullets and gore? Floating in harmony around planets? If that's not mood swings and emotions only, I'm not quite sure how to interpret that. It seems to say "I need Prozac and something better to do." Never write poems about emotion, it's stereotypical and people will immediatly assume you're some depressed kid. Or a crazed Goth.

Now, I won't go so far as to say that's not art. That's just a baby step. I don't want to hold you back, I'm asking you to hit the afterburners, go deeper into more rich literature as fast as possible. I want to read what you write. Remember, even a 5 year old on a violin sounds awful when he's learning the basics, but by the time he's 15 he'll be playing with the pros. Besides, if you do, I might gain a taste for poetry.

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[Poltech]

wats your interpretation?

Never write poems about emotion, it's stereotypical and people will immediatly assume you're some depressed kid. Or a crazed Goth.

I don't think people shouldn't write about emotion at all, but they must write about it with a sense of class that isn't stereotypicial and won't make people assume that they are some depressed kid or a crazed goth, but write about it in such a way that the emotions are very well hidden, with certain objects in a poem for example, representing an emotion, but be sure to choose an object which isn't too cliche, for cliche also makes people think that the writer is a "depressed kid or a crazed goth."

[The_Q]

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To expand on that, I prefer my voice to be embedded in diction rather than allegory. If they can sense the tone but not identify where it came from, I think I did a job well done. When someone knows when I'm angry when I'm writing, but I haven't written an angry word, I think I did well. Allegory is just too obvious. Especially for a new writer. They'll hop on the allegory train and get slapped with stereotype and critique before anything else. "Obvious choices in symbols" or "lack of originality" will be attributed to this sort of thing. Poetry is a no win scenario, isn't it?

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[Poltech]

wats your interpretation?

Allegory is just too obvious. Especially for a new writer. They'll hop on the allegory train and get slapped with stereotype and critique before anything else. "Obvious choices in symbols" or "lack of originality" will be attributed to this sort of thing. Poetry is a no win scenario, isn't it?

Oh it can be a win scenario, when you're the one who is making the original allegories that will be used over and over, becoming cliched and still being used be the new poets. As for getting slapped with critique, if someone is giving a good critique it shouldn't be a slap, it should be constructive.

[The_Q]

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Glad you caught that. Critique should never be a slap. Did you hear that, fellas? Not a slap! Let off this guy, ok?

Even then, Poltech, readers won't like a change from the ordinary. Your new allegorys won't be accepted until long after your death. Take Vincent Van Gogh.

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[Poltech]

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Even then, Poltech, readers won't like a change from the ordinary. Your new allegorys won't be accepted until long after your death. Take Vincent Van Gogh.

Who is to say that readers aren't going to like a change, you have people who say that many poems are to cliche, you have other readers who love the cliche and think everytime it is reinvented in a new poem that the writer has skill. Therefore, one must find a happy medium, perhaps a mixture of cliche and non-cliche ideas.

As for Allegories that won't be accepted until after death, thats not always true, for we have poets who are winning nobel prizes for their work, while the piece of literature may appear to be about something other than emotion, who is to say the context of the poem is not a well written allegory?

[sleeplessdragn]

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thank you for the positive, nonblatant i-think-it-sucks comments. that was wat i was looking for. and to be honest, i was trying to go for a "emo, crazy goth, insane" type of tone because i wanted to represent the mind of a crazy, insane person who played too many video games, with monsters from Mars referring to Doom, and went outside and killed everyone, thinking how everyone who mocked this person was a monster to that person. my persona is not in any manner surrounded by goth or emo; in fact i tend to dissocciate from any stereotype, but then again so is everyone else. see, you cant forget the reason that i wrote this.

eh, i wrote this for a class project. actually this is not to be graded, but used as a source of evidence. see a part of the project was to find a poem that reflected a viewpoint of the controversy which our projects were on. my group couldnt find one so i made this.

the controversy were studying is violence caused by video games, mind you. and i was forced to write about how they did cause people to become more violent, although imo thats bullshit.