Where is Earth headed?

[Jam930]

Re: Where is Earth headed?

75 rainforest species go extinct per day.
104,000 acres of forest cut down per day.

So in these 100k acres, there are 75 species that completely die out and arent located anywhere else in the next 100k acres to be cut down? That just doesnt seem logical to me, but i guess you did extensive research on this.

It's not like 104,000 are cut down in one spot in the world. All different forests all over the world are being cut down. And the species extinction is based on how many new species we discover in a given area of rain forest. Ofcourse 2 acres of the same rainforest will reveal LESS new species than 1 acre from 2 different forests, so it's not perfectly accurate or explainable but this is giving the best estimate based on what we've learned.

The trees going to complete waste? Also seems nuts, especially when you think of all the paper in the world. I know we are stupid, but i dont think we would be that stupid to just burn off the majority of the trees we fall...

3rd world countries without the business and man power to sell wood off just burn it or roughly get rid of it in any way possible. They can't afford to get people in there precision-cutting trees. Theres are tons of weird plants and poisonous animals in there.

How long has this been happening? The numbers seem really high to me, esp if you think of it over a year....multiply all that by 365...?
Topsoil:"Earth weighs in at 5.972 sextillion (5,972 followed by 18 zeroes) metric tons." researced that....now i dont know how much is topsoil, but there is a lot of earth left. Now by the time that topsoil becomes an issue, we will have found a way to grow indoors, with out the need of topsoil, or make more topsoil to use in these facilities that would be covering the lost land.

we're not really losing earth MASS but the top soil material is turning into less-useful crap like dirt and desert etc.

One of the main problems is when trash is thrown out. Plastic not being recycles and rather just buried... it doesn't break down well. We're losing our resources.



Sorry Laharl, you are entitled to an argument, thanks for siding with me.

[Jam930]

Re: Where is Earth headed?

Sorry. Double post thing. It showed an error after i submitted it the first time... so i tried again. err.

[classof04]

Re: Where is Earth headed?

75 rainforest species go extinct per day.

104,000 acres of forest cut down per day.

71,000,000 tons of topsoil lost per day.

4,000,000 tons of carbon dioxide(gas form) added per day

265,000 humans added per day. (Births - deaths)


This was compiled from tons of online research out of curiosity and after doing much cross checking, this is the most accurate it gets.

Discuss

But what are you doing to help. If your not part of the solution your part of the problem. Were just sitting here like a bunch of idiots discussing a very important problem, and just talking about it is doing nothing.

[Squeek]

Yelling at me for trying. At least Laharl countered my statements. What do you have to say to Drac who posted factual evidence? Sure, I may have guessed and I may have been wrong, but Drac was not and you haven't said anything about his.

Maybe if you weren't such a downer all the time you would see the brighter side of life. Are YOU alive RIGHT NOW? Shouldn't you be thankful enough for that?

I'm sick of people who take facts that seem really big and go "Oh crap we're all screwed thanks alot humanity". How could we have made any technological progress without Earth's resources in the first place? Do you want to still be in the Stone Age?

Facts are facts, I understand that. But if you don't do anything to change the depressing facts then what good are you? Me, I'm an Eagle Scout who has been trained to life conservatively. I don't waste water or food or electricity. I conserve all the resources I can.

~Squeek

[Jam930]

Yelling at me for trying. At least Laharl countered my statements. What do you have to say to Drac who posted factual evidence? Sure, I may have guessed and I may have been wrong, but Drac was not and you haven't said anything about his.

Maybe if you weren't such a downer all the time you would see the brighter side of life. Are YOU alive RIGHT NOW? Shouldn't you be thankful enough for that?

I'm sick of people who take facts that seem really big and go "Oh crap we're all screwed thanks alot humanity". How could we have made any technological progress without Earth's resources in the first place? Do you want to still be in the Stone Age?

Facts are facts, I understand that. But if you don't do anything to change the depressing facts then what good are you? Me, I'm an Eagle Scout who has been trained to life conservatively. I don't waste water or food or electricity. I conserve all the resources I can.

~Squeek

*thumbs up


Well, classof04, I researched it and told people about it. That's doing something in my opinion.


Off the top of my head...

I'm not environment crazy but,

I don't litter, I recycle paper, cans and plastic. I don't over-purchase or over-consume. I use public transportation. My family does not own an SUV. I don't leave the water on when I brush my teeth. I take short showers. I turn off lights when I don't use them.

[IAMTHEEVILBEAN]

Sucks to be earth.

[LEGO]

I wish I could delete that post ^.

I think that although many people are thinking up solutions to these problems, the earth will eventually become uninhabitable. Not in our lifetime, but perhaps further on. I think it's possible to live on/in space stations with simulated gravity but to support a population such as earth's it would be very tricky. There is also the problem of nomads and hermits who do not live within society. Abandoning earth for life in space (and possibly another planet) would be hard because assuming not everyone would be able to leave, it would be more like communistic than the world currently is...

I'm just trying to show that it would alter our way of life as we currently have on earth.

To preserve the earth we can't keep using so much fossil fuels and spreading so much pollution. I've planned to have my first car be either electric or get 60 mpw+ (I'm only 16 so by the time I get my own car this will be more realistic.)

As a teenager I also try to contribute a little, I mean I run everywhere I want to go that is within 10 miles, and if I want to get there faster, I bike. The last time my parents drived me to a store or to a friends, I was 12.

[talisman]

Hmmm... To be honest I'd rather see some sources before I take those numbers at face value. I mean, they sound reasonable, it's just that seen in the context of their origin, they might have slightly different implications.

Also, with any research, sources are really the only way to prove or disprove conclusions reached in the research.

I'm not asking for a bibliography/works cited or anything, just maybe a couple urls so that I can see the info for myself.

[NeoDarkHeart]

how could 75 rainforest species be extinct everyday if only 12 species worldwide are extinct per day? (source - george carlin. i trust him.)

only 40% of the stuff you recycle actually gets recycled. the rest ends up in the city dump.
(source - Bullshit! (showtime series with penn and teller))


heh. yeah. but seriously. earth's gonna be disintigrated no matter what. sun exploding 'n all... i know it's not for a while, but you only asked where the earth was headed. that's where it's eventually headed.

[Jello]

None of you people got the answer right... the real answer to where the earth is headed is

DUN DUN DUN DA

ANDROMEDA MORONS

the milky way and andromeda are headed strait at eachother at 100 000 miles per hour. they will collide in about 4 billion years or so? i think its 4 billion. anyways, our solarsystem will either explode in a massive supernova or be flung safely into space.

anyways im goin out cya ppl

[NeoDarkHeart]

4 billion? when's the sun exploding?

k, whichever of those events happens first, that's where the earth's ending up.

[Jam930]

We'll be out of the solar system in 500 years or less. Out of the milky way in 1000-1500.

[NeoDarkHeart]

o_O links to where you got info?


meh. wherever we're ending up, we're probly gonna die in the process. as for the earth, it'll eventually be destroyed.

[IAMTHEEVILBEAN]

Earth (dun dun dun) is goin to work,
Fight off the solar,
SYSTEM

WEEEEEEE

DEDADEDADEDADUMMDEADEDAEDWHICKAWHICKAWHICKA

we need a man,
to save the day,
earth,
earth, earth

[Jam930]

Links for those statistics... well I guess I could go and find all the websites all over again. I got information from like 5 or 6 different ones. And chose the numbers that some of those sites had in common with each other. Cross-checking.