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  • Chrissi
    FFR Player
    • Mar 2004
    • 3019

    #31
    Originally posted by RobbyZero
    You need IRON and if you don't eat meat you don't take in IRON. Taking pills to replace IRON = Not good unless you have a disease that makes your IRON low like my mom has. If you do become as vegetarian how about going back ok? Your better off for your health period.
    Well, there are a bunch of people talking about supplements and how vegetarians have to take some, and I take none. I'm healthy.

    Funny story: Awhile back, I got very very sick and hardly got out of bed for a few months. They didn't understand what was happening, and ran all sorts of tests on me but nothing turned up. Then they found out I was a vegetarian and assumed it was anemia or however you say that. They were like, "Oh, you're a vegetarian... stop that. Here, we'll test your blood and show you."

    And the results came back...

    Perfect, perfect, perfect. Perfect blood. Better than normal. I had the nicest levels of iron, protein, etc. So they asked me, do you take supplements? I had to say no. Needless to say they were very confused, but never did find out why I was sick. I got better.

    So that's my story on why it's not unhealthy to be vegetarian if you don't throw your diet down the drain.

    Just for the record, in case anyone asks, I eat a lot of rice, potatoes, grain bread, eggs... other stuff too but meh. Rice is my fave. And soup.
    C is for Charisma, it's why people think I'm great! I make my friends all laugh and smile and never want to hate!

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    • ayanepuck
      FFR Player
      • May 2004
      • 110

      #32
      I think we are above animals, or at least, I would like to think so. I like meat because yes, it tates good, and yes, it is good for me. I have a number of vegetarian and vegan friends (being a performance major for my first semester caused me to meet some interesting folks.) and I have no problem with them until they lecture me about how I am a terrible person because I am eating a hamburger. I respect anyone's decision to eat or not eat meat, but I just want you all to know that if it came right down to it, I would eat a human if necessary. =)
      \"All the world is the birthday cake, so take a piece, but not too much.\"

      \"The Beatles saved the world from boredom.\"
      --George Harrison

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      • Verruckter
        FFR Player
        • Apr 2004
        • 2707

        #33
        Well Chrissi, you're not a real vegetarian. REAL vegetarians even refuse to eat eggs, because it comes from chicken.
        Truth lies in loneliness, When hope is long gone by -Blind Guardian, The Soulforged
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        • jewpinthethird
          (The Fat's Sabobah)
          FFR Music Producer
          • Nov 2002
          • 11711

          #34
          Vegitarians are just a sign of a wealthy nation, where people deny themselves food.

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          • ayanepuck
            FFR Player
            • May 2004
            • 110

            #35
            Originally posted by Verruckter
            Well Chrissi, you're not a real vegetarian. REAL vegetarians even refuse to eat eggs, because it comes from chicken.
            wow....uhm...no. She is a vegetarian. Vegetarians don't eat meat. Vegans, on the other hand, which if you had half a brain you would know this, are people who don't eat animal flesh or by-products. Sorry about your rectal-cranial inversion....you should really have that looked at.
            \"All the world is the birthday cake, so take a piece, but not too much.\"

            \"The Beatles saved the world from boredom.\"
            --George Harrison

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            • Chrissi
              FFR Player
              • Mar 2004
              • 3019

              #36
              ayanepuck, Verruckter is partially right.

              Originally the word "vegetarian" meant the modern day meaning of "vegan". However, today, vegetarians are the ones who will not eat/use products that required the death of an animal. Vegans will not eat/use products that came from an animal at all.

              Hope that helps. Basically you're both right, but really, if you want to get technical I'm an ovo-lacto-vegetarian. Ovo = eggs, lacto = dairy.

              By the way, in no case can a vegetarian or vegan eat fish. If they do so, they are a pescetarian.

              Most vegetarians do not eat gelatin(e) but some do, which is rather odd, because it's identical to eating meat. I guess it's just one of those rules that aren't set in stone and most people don't research enough to understand. Most vegetarians also avoid leather and suede, some avoid silk... me, I avoid all of them. There are other un-vegetarian-friendly materials.

              Vegans can't wear wool. Myself, I don't think I'd wear wool either.

              Obviously no fur.
              C is for Charisma, it's why people think I'm great! I make my friends all laugh and smile and never want to hate!

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              • ayanepuck
                FFR Player
                • May 2004
                • 110

                #37
                ah...no fur. Fur itches...that is the only reason I don't wear it...that and most fur coats and such are uglier than sin.
                \"All the world is the birthday cake, so take a piece, but not too much.\"

                \"The Beatles saved the world from boredom.\"
                --George Harrison

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                • The_Q
                  FFR Player
                  • May 2004
                  • 4391

                  #38
                  Honest and fragile opinion of a lower player.

                  My honest opnion has to do with the human physical features and psyche...although I am not a psychologist nor a physician, I know quite a bit about history and physical make-up f humans. (You know history, you know how humans think)

                  The only reason humans became more intelligent than any other species of animal is that we had a genetic mutation that caused a weak jaw. A weak jaw that allowed more cranial capacity than another animal, therefore allowing us to build tools. We used our newfound tools to not only fight our way to the top of the ecology but also to fight each other, eventually ending ourselves.

                  How does this relate to vegetarianism? We have used our knowledge to overpopulate, plunder natural resources, and slaughter many animals that we see as "lower" than us in order to feed our booming products of having sex all "willy-nilly"(Scott Adams). In reality it is much easier to consume plants and fungi only. You don't have to feed it anything except sunshine and water, whereas you have to feed cattle for many months or years before you can slaughter them. More calories for less cost. Benefit is larger than cost when everyone eats veggies. Extra money all over, which would ruin the economy if it happens too suddenly.

                  So society and the world would be better off ecologically and economically if we slowly lowered ourselves into total vegetarianism. More food for less, and we could continue life as it was, bt without meat. Several downsides first. With a growing population we would have less land on which to plant all these veggies. Second, we don't have a worldwide government that imposes strict enough laws to change the world so drastically.

                  In other words, we're smart, vegetarianism is perfect for utopia, and veggies can taste great; but it's no utopia here on Earth, it's Darwin's world. We are not the fittest physically, but we can make things that will obey us that are the fittest. Until we blow ourselves up, I'll eat meat for the sake of keeping the world normal.

                  Q, a 14 year old freak of nature

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                  • classof04
                    FFR Player
                    • May 2004
                    • 69

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Chrissi



                    ...Most vegetarians do not eat gelatin(e) but some do, which is rather odd, because it's identical to eating meat. I guess it's just one of those rules that aren't set in stone and most people don't research enough to understand. Most vegetarians also avoid leather and suede, some avoid silk... me, I avoid all of them. There are other un-vegetarian-friendly materials...

                    .
                    WTF?%$* No Jello. Man I love Jello. Why can't you eat Jello if your Vegeterian or Vegan?

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                    • Verruckter
                      FFR Player
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 2707

                      #40
                      Because gelatine comes from cow bones, wich means you must kill the cow to get its bones (duh).
                      Truth lies in loneliness, When hope is long gone by -Blind Guardian, The Soulforged
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                      • Chrissi
                        FFR Player
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 3019

                        #41
                        Jello != gelatine.

                        Gelatin(e) is the ingredient in jello that makes it jiggle. Gelatine is also used to make marshmallows, many chewy candies such as Starburst, Junior Mints, Skittles, etc etc... they use it to make things chewy, give it a smooth consistency, or make it jiggle.

                        Basically it's a byproduct from the meat industry. Most anything they can't use for meat off the cow gets crushed up to make gelatine. Horrible stuff. Considering you can do the same things with plants, I'd never eat anything made of gelatine.

                        You know those Hunt's Snack Pack jello pack things? Or basically any little jello cups that advertise themselves as not having to be refrigerated. Those things don't have gelatine! Yeah!! Good news for me, since I do like jello. It's also healthier because it doesn't expire as easily and doesn't need to be refrigerated...

                        Eh enough of my rambling. I'm hungry. Sour Patch Kids are the bomb.
                        C is for Charisma, it's why people think I'm great! I make my friends all laugh and smile and never want to hate!

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                        • The_Q
                          FFR Player
                          • May 2004
                          • 4391

                          #42
                          It's been 3 hours

                          I posted my last hing at around 5. It's 11. No qoutations yet? I know I'm a living ego, but for the love of god, was it that bad? Was it? Just kidding. Now that I know what I know about jell-o, I am never having chewy sweets again. Thanks for the disgusting but true life changer.

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                          • Chrissi
                            FFR Player
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 3019

                            #43
                            If you actually want to stay away from gelatine you should just check the package of anything soft, spongy, smooth, hard, jiggly, or... just about anything. o.O

                            If you see something about carageenan you're probably fine. That's a plant thing.
                            C is for Charisma, it's why people think I'm great! I make my friends all laugh and smile and never want to hate!

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                            • DracIV
                              FFR Player
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 298

                              #44
                              Okay, I'll respond to you The Q. It wasn't exactly a weak jaw that did it, nor brain size. It was brain complexity and luck. For many millienia humans did what all animals do. Because our natural predators died out, we grew like the plague. The same thing is happening recently with deer in suburban forests and cats in cities. We are omnivores (more adaptable), so that's what we did.

                              Now people have a choice to be herbivores. However, meat is considered a luxury. That's the important part. Meat is harder to get and more expensive because it is a luxury food in my cultures now. Similar to salt for the Romans (such a luxury that they paid soldiers with it). All cultures have luxury foods and people usually don't care to remove those, whether or not anyone thinks they should. Although beef and steak (the main luxury choice in America) have become more widespread due to a strong economy and lots of money, it is still something special you don't eat every single meal of every single day (unless you are one of those fastfood fatties).

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                              • Verruckter
                                FFR Player
                                • Apr 2004
                                • 2707

                                #45
                                One cause of our brain's expasion is that before (a looong time ago) "humans" only ate fruits and nuts. Since thier bodies where lacking of proteins contained in meat, they didn't evolve very fast. But at one moment, "someone" (i think he was homo-erectus) invented what would be a primitiv knife, and they used that knife to cut out meat from animals. Their brain then got bigger, and stronger.
                                Truth lies in loneliness, When hope is long gone by -Blind Guardian, The Soulforged
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