Racial Slurs

[krunkykai22]

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And hispanics calling each other sp*cs, I get called that a lot by my hispanic friends, I think it's hilarious. And yeah, I say nig*a all the time, it's alright to say that where I live, no matter what race you are. I don't think people should get offended by these since it's so widely used by people.

"where i live it's okay to do that" is not an excuse. You shouldn't be using derogatory terms in the first place though :/ Just added to the usage of the word that so many people hate.

Ummm no? I don't use the N word, and I never will. There have been a few occassions when I have used that term back a few years ago, but it is definitely not a part of my daily vocabulary. It is stupid and it degrades the person who uses it, I agree with that but...

1) Don't make assumptions about other people without reasonable evidence because it makes you look naive. No offense.

2) Saying the N word does not make you a racist by default and never will, so don't assume all black people are self centered for using that word. No offense.

In any case in point here, whether that term was meant to diminish or belittle black people, it does not make a difference nowadays. We all understand why we use such appellations for greetings and have come to a realization that it is now become part of the culture. You see it everywhere in the media so why would it make an ounce of a difference if you heard someone else say it through your bedroom window? You've got bigger problems to worry about rather than worrying about some stranger mouthing off words that you find offensive.

Most of you aren't even black so I find it even harder to believe that this bothers most of you when it seldom affects me.

Listen buddy, you for one have called me a N*a before. You have called a couple other people that before. I pointed you out, because I figured you would understand. Apparently not. And 2nd I never said that all AA (African Americans) are racist. But, yes the ones that use that word, I believe to be. That is a racist term they are using among themselves making it seem okay to the next race when being said in front of them. Be the sole white person here in philly and listen to them saying it, and then go out and say it to them and watch what happens. You'll get your ass knocked out if not killed.

[25thhour]

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I use way to many racial slurs but my family is a super racist family I was taught to hate minorities by my mother and my aunt. I would never say a racial slur in front of that race though because I have respect.

[ddrxero64]

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Swearing much more accepted though, as bad as that sounds. Try this:

Go into a heavy populated area, like a subway or a large bank or something, and yell "SHIT" at the top of lungs. The next day, go into the same place and yell the n-word.

gr8 experiment, i suggest everyoen does it

Didn't read the whole thread, but I find this interesting. If someone were to be white and do this, it could be trouble. But a black person doing this would most likely go ignored.

Not sure if anyone touched on this, but here's my input.

People are hypocrites. That's it. A white person calling a black person the n word is way worse than a black person calling a white person a cracker. People claim it's because white people weren't the ones who were enslaved, and that they have no right to call black people that word.

Where the hypocrisy falls is that it's completely fine (and funny to some) to use the word "Jew" in a negative connotation. People do this all the time, especially referring to the Holocaust and whatnot. I'm sure that Jews suffered as bad as African slaves did,whether it was for a shorter period of time.

You can't tackle a topic like this with a world (or at least a country) full of hypocrites. It's going to take some sort of huge event to shed light on this, and even then it might not do anything.

[Gun92]

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I don't really find my statement all the ignorant. When you think about it, yes slavery sucked, I agree 100% and stuff like that should never have happened but unfortunately it still does to this day. I have to much respect for a word that is so derogatory to a group of people from a long time ago to the point that I would never even think of using that word against someone. But when people try to use slavery to justify the reasoning behind their usage of it and the fact that its utterly taboo for white people to use it doesn't strike me as right. If it affected your family from way back then, I can sympathize with that, but it is not currently affecting you in any adverse manor right now.

If using that word is so wrong and hurtful, then please explain to my why I hear it on a daily basis from people who more than likely have no idea on weather or not their family was part of the whole slavery thing? They use it as an excuse. Like I said before, if you are directly involved with it, then I can understand such hard feelings about that, but when you are where you are today, isn't time to kinda move on from such things?

You can call me ignorant all you want and to varying degrees you are correct because I wasn't around back when this stuff was going on. I don't personally know all the details behind slavery and the origin of the N word. All I know is if people would stop attempting to use slavery as an excuse to just throw such a heavy word around, I think it would be better.

Also, I'm pretty sure I said this before, but if people would attempt to take some of the weight of the word away, a good chunk of people would be less likely to sling it around. Same thing with the F word. We are all taught its a bad word and what is the first thing we do? We go around saying it as often as possible. The world is full of ignorance and it always will be.

[Mans0n]

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I don't really find my statement all the ignorant. When you think about it, I have to much respect for a word that is so derogatory to a group of people from a long time ago to the point that I would never even think of using that word against someone. But when people try to use slavery to justify the reasoning behind their usage of it and the fact that its utterly taboo for white people to use it doesn't strike me as right. If it affected your family from way back then, I can sympathize with that, but it is not currently affecting you in any adverse manor right now.

If using that word is so wrong and hurtful, then please explain to my why I hear it on a daily basis from people who more than likely have no idea on weather or not their family was part of the whole slavery thing? They use it as an excuse. Like I said before, if you are directly involved with it, then I can understand such hard feelings about that, but when you are where you are today, isn't time to kinda move on from such things?

You can call me ignorant all you want and to varying degrees you are correct because I wasn't around back when this stuff was going on. I don't personally know all the details behind slavery and the origin of the N word. All I know is if people would stop attempting to use slavery as an excuse to just throw such a heavy word around, I think it would be better.

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Of course YOU dont find your own statement ignorant. And then later you admit that you might possibly be ignorant to a varying degree because you weren't around when it happened, and obviously don't know much about the subject.

Uhh try putting yourself in the shoes of someone of color. Then you would understand, though YOU can't because it doesn't really seem like you even want to, you'd rather keep thinking that using slavery and the way black people were treated decades ago is not a valid reason for the n word to be taboo, when it is. lol.

''If using that word is so wrong and hurtful, then please explain to my why I hear it on a daily basis from people who more than likely have no idea on weather or not their family was part of the whole slavery thing?''
Uhh that's because your around a lot of ignorant people which is probably where you've picked it up.

and my last point, Name calling is very damaging to someones well being, Most people know this. Which is another reason why being called the N word is so offensive. Another reason would be because it was directed torwards blacks only. So of course it's going to make a black person angry when a white person is calling them the n word.

[Gun92]

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You know as well as I do that it is impossible to put yourself in the shoes of a different race. I also know that I am around a lot of ignorant people, they are everywhere. I also claimed in what I said that I don't have much information on the subject and I never claimed other wise. I do feel that the excuse I posed is used often, that is my own personal opinion. It may not be right and it is what it is. When you think about it, how many other words could you come up with that if you were to say in the wrong place, could get you killed?

Is one word really worth that kind of thought process? I sure as hell don't condone some genius running into a predominately black area screaming the N word at the top of his lungs, if that is the case, he probably gets what he deserves. But really, how many people have been threatened against saying the N word? Not really to the extreme of getting killed, but in general? I know it has happened to me and I am really not stupid enough to use such a word in such a way.

I really don't care for the word just because of the way its handled. The weight that it carries is unfortunate, but the fact that people do use that to their advantage is wrong to varying degrees. I will personally admit to being racist because I believe we all are to certain degrees, that is just how society is. I don't care for a lot of people, but those are the extreme stereotypes. I honestly don't know how much this holds up but I hear it enough so don't jump off the deep end at this. There is a difference between a black person an N word. Is that true? I'm sure it is at some point just like there are differences in white people or Asian people or Mexicans and so forth.

I can't really tell you a stance on the matter because its a rather finicky subject at best that most people are too afraid to go near. I do not condone blatant racism or personally attacking someone because of their race, that is wrong. I'm pretty sure I have babbled on enough and gone so far off track most of it wont make sense but its a semi cognitive thought on things.

And I want to ask you this and I want this to be an opinionated answer. Who has made the N word what it is today? Black people, white people, a third party? I'm not looking for whites to blame blacks and vice verse, just what you think the cause of it is.

[krunkykai22]

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Gun you are the ****ing man. That's what I was trying to say a few pages ago. I don't care what the thought process is of anyone who uses the word. Everywhere you go you're bound to hear it. Most common, though, are in the suburbs, projects, cities, etc. etc. Them using it in any manner makes it "seem" okay for the next race to use it.

Also, go into Italy and call someone a guinea. There in Italy, you would be killed. Go to an Irish bar, call them mics, you will get killed. There are plenty of words out there that "could" get you killed, it's the places you use it in is what matters.

[Gun92]

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I just think its kinda weak that we let derogatory words define us as people. We let stereotypes seep into our lives and we act them out on a daily basis. Why do we do things like that and then get pissed off when its brought to our attention? I don't think it is fare to judge an entire race based on a word and you are right, I will never know what it is like to live as a black person does, or an asian or mexican or what ever and no one else will either. We are who we are and we should try to define ourselves not as a word but for what we want to be seen as. Black people don't have to be seen as N words, mexicans don't have to be seen as S words. Stuff like that doesn't have to happen so long as we attempt to make sure it doesn't. Don't play into the stereotypes, don't do dumb stuff. I can't really tell you where I am going with this, I'm so tired I can barely see straight and I'm pretty sure I went off the path yet again. With that, I bid you goodnight.

[Mans0n]

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Gun I actually agree with your second to last post. There is a difference between a n***** and a black person, huge difference lol.

[DJMAYYYNE]

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I've gone to the hood in NY and said nig*a, nobody really minds lol. Nowadays, it's used as another word for friend, homie, bro etc. Most black people don't take it personally, they just laugh when they hear someone say nig*er lol barely anybody takes it seriously anymore.

[krunkykai22]

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That personally just makes you look like an idiot for using the term. And it also depends on the place you've used it. Try downtown Philadelphia, PA. Newark, NJ. Brooklyn, NY. Downtown Jamaica Queens, NY. Los Angeles, CA. The list can go on and on. Now, I don't know if you're African American or not DJ Mayne, but if you're Caucasian, than yes I stick to my above statement, it is an idiotic thing to do.

If you happen to be AA, than you just proved my point in posts before hand. Using that terminology is telling the next person it is okay to use. And that's wrong if it's such an offensive word.

[DJMAYYYNE]

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I'm hispanic and I was in the Bronx. I do agree with being careful where you say it, but so far, I've been to some black neighborhoods and haven't gotten in trouble for it. And how would I look like an idiot if it doesn't offend anyone?

[krunkykai22]

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By using the term anyway. Not really trying to offend you, but to even say the N word is trash. Honestly.

[All_That_Chaz]

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You can argue all you want that words by themselves don't mean anything. Nietzsche made that argument long ago. Of course, logically, words are simply a collection of letters or characters that form a recognizable sequence.

However, in order for language to have any significance or use, meaning must be attached to the words. And the truth is that there is meaning attached to racial slurs. And the meaning attached to those words implies disrespect to whole races of people. This is just as true as how that thing in my kitchen that makes delicious toast is called a toaster.

But we know why you want to use these words. You just want to troll people who get offended by language. People who do this have never had real problems in their lives. If you did, you would understand that some language is unacceptable.

[Garquillex]

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Although some people will get offended by something, whether or not they should be offended is another matter. I think there's a misconception that something needs to be directly attributable to someone for them to be actually offended, but a more concise explanation for "offended" is that you did something they consider more than mildly wrong, which can in turn be personal or not. Most are just less likely to standup unless its personal.

For typical swearing, I don't think think there's an inherent wrongness with it. They can be used well or poorly (some people need to pick up a ****ing thesaurus). Can group-centered slurs ever be used well? Most typical slurs are impersonal, but slurs like "gay" or "n*****" refer to discriminated people. I'm not sure yet if or how that makes its use inherently wrong, but at the least, it makes the ratio of "good" to "poor" potential use lopsided towards poor, in comparison to typical slurs.

Comedy throws a wrench into many things I try to understand. I think I need to understand the science behind comedy before I can go further.