What does it take for kids to learn?

[DossarLX ODI]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

So what's a good alternative to spanking? That's my point that I'm trying to get to.

Reread the other posts mentioned earlier in the thread lmao. nois-or-e made a good list, and Rubix even mentioned a few. I don't feel like listing them

[Reincarnate]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

So what's a good alternative to spanking? That's my point that I'm trying to get to.

have you not been reading this thread Mr. Doesn't-believe-in-statistics-or-evidence?

positive reinforcement

[awein999]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

So what's a good alternative to spanking? That's my point that I'm trying to get to.

Reasoning with and understanding with words.

edit: and yeah look back in this thread.

[Artic_counter]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

And just so you guys know, I posted that article so Bix would shut the **** up about his ego the size of ****ing Andromeda for about 5 minutes.

Continue, please.

I think your starting to understand my point on what we were disscussing in the thread about the USA You know, the ego xD

[OneHandNow]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

so many people in this thread thinking their opinions can oust the others'
on the internet

INTERNET

sadface

[Rubin0]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

I am so glad that I went to bed when I did because this turned into a complete shit fest of ignorance.

[Reincarnate]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

Rubin0: The problem is that so many of those people will just keep perpetuating the same cycles of misinformation and find reasons to justify otherwise outmoded/warped views.

[LJRoX]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

I've been beaten and it feels good. No wait, it doesn't lol but I've been a better person than the delinquents hanging outside in the downtown area from where I live.

[nois-or-e]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

nois-or-e made a good list

I made a few damn good examples, yes. But all of this is from first hand experience with raising a child. A lot of you will have completely different approaches when/if dealing with a child of your own from day 1.

Though some of you I certainly hope never make a contribution to the genepool.

[ghost-]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

I don't care about the argument anymore, I think Rubix needs to fix his fuccing ego. Sure, his STATISTICS might point to something better, but that doesn't mean he has to come off acting like he's smarter than everybody else. Rubix, you're an intelligent individual, but stop acting like you're so much better!

So far Rubix, throughout this whole thread, you've been, "OHMYGOSH A PERSON WHO DISAGREES BASHBASHBASH CALL NAMES LIKE A FOUR YEAR OLD THROW A STATISTIC AND GO OFF WHAT THEY SAY" Like I said, your statistics most likely point to a better solution, but you can't honestly sit there and say that spanking is completely out of the question. Spanking does have its positive effects, yet you are neglecting to see them. You are completely going off of everything negative just to make your argument look dominant and so YOU look dominant over everybody.

[ghost-]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

but hey, I'm just a 17 year old, what the hell do I know?

[Reincarnate]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

but hey, I'm just a 17 year old, what the hell do I know?

Not much, given your replies.

Sorry but if someone's going to say something utterly stupid, I'm going to call them out on it. I don't care it it makes me look like a douchebag -- I'd rather perpetuate CORRECT information grained in evidence. It's dangerous when people resort to "Well, it's a matter of opinion" when it really isn't. The moment you give a stupid person an inch, they'll take a mile -- and it leads to needless value destruction.

You arguing that spanking has positive effects is a baseless claim because you have *no reason to support it other than personal experience* and you are most likely confounding the variables to begin with! Nobody is arguing that spanking doesn't have short-term, immediate effects. Kid is acting like a jackoff? Hit/slap/spank him (even if just once or twice) and the behavior may cease immediately. The problem is that studies show time and time again that this is an ineffective long-term solution to shaping overall behavior, which is the entire thrust of this thread to begin with. You don't get to a long-term solution by just invoking a short-term solution over and over again. Spanking generally has *negative* effects on children over a longer period of time, and even in low frequencies there's no reason to resort to it because by this point you're likely leveraging healthier alternatives *anyway*. My argument is a dominant argument because it's actually *supported*. Do you not understand what this means?

So you come across as a completely uneducated ****twat when you try to push forth utterly ignorant bullshit like "spanking has positive effects."

[ghost-]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

So you come across as a completely egotistical ****twat when you try to argue for you beliefs. You make all of Americans look like shit. Get outta my country. It made it very hard for me to focus on the argument at hand because all you do is call names and have this angry tone ALL the time. That's how you win arguments, you try to be dominant.

and ya know what? I may not be as smart as you and may not be able to express what I think as well as you, but at least I can act mature and reasonable instead of making an ass out of myself in front of hundreds of people. I subside my argument so I can stop debating with someone as arrogant as you. You can go ahead and count this as a win and build up your ego even more. Nice life you got there.

[Reincarnate]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

If I come across as angry it is due to my impatience with regard to people's stupidity. There's simply no excuse for ignorance anymore when we have shit like Google to answer these basic questions in seconds. You can read the data for yourself. You can look at the statistics yourself. You can look at the pros/cons yourself. You simply refuse to do this and you'll blindly assert "positive effects" as a misguided truth without actually looking to see if it holds water.

It's one thing if you actually have all the facts first, but most people just *don't*. If you're going to argue against something, understand the argument first. Otherwise people like you falsely hold claims to be true that ultimately allow for the justification of backwards-thinking, and other people suffer for this.

So yeah, this is a subject I have no problems being an asshole over. This has nothing to do with ego and has everything to do with upholding a little integrity in the evidence, here. It'd be like if you claimed our Earth was flat -- I'm going to call you a complete idiot until you get off your ass and look at the evidence.

[MrGiggles]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

it does help find out if your kid is into bdsm

also my dad tried to spank me well beyond the age where it becomes an unreasonable endeavor. I was like 14 the last time he did. I strongly doubt it made me a better person. I also strongly doubt it's a good idea.

two cents, pce