What does it take for kids to learn?

[awein999]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

Give me an example of when spanking is not abusive.

abusive:
1. expressing offensive reproach
2. characterized by physical or psychological maltreatment

No response?

[DossarLX ODI]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

lol

The only time I can see spanking as not being "abusive" (traumatic) is if it's 5 spanks max, and done rarely. The thing is, that usually doesn't happen. One solid smack to show a child what it's like could be justifiable, but smacking away at the kid's ass is completely impulsive.

[virus003]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

And just so you guys know, I posted that article so Bix would shut the **** up about his ego the size of ****ing Andromeda for about 5 minutes.

Continue, please.

[Reincarnate]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

And just so you guys know, I posted that article so Bix would shut the **** up about his ego the size of ****ing Andromeda for about 5 minutes.

Continue, please.

So your method to "shut me up" is by posting an absurdly shitty article with an even more laughable study? Good job there, turbo.

who needs science and statistics mang, right? that shit hurts my headdd -- we should just call everything from the gut and call it a night!!!1

[DossarLX ODI]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

I don't get why you'd want to say that you posted an article like that to "shut someone up". It doesn't render the arguments stated against spanking as invalid.

[virus003]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

lol

The only time I can see spanking as not being "abusive" (traumatic) is if it's 5 spanks max, and done rarely. The thing is, that usually doesn't happen. One solid smack to show a child what it's like could be justifiable, but smacking away at the kid's ass is completely impulsive.

It seems like a dominance thing to me, like "Hey, my kids annoying the **** outta me, spanking his ass should shut him up, when it really only makes em cry more."


And for whoever posted when the child gets older, hopefully he/she has matured enough not to do such stupid things. Some don't though, my brother got caught with a bb gun on the bus in 8th grade, my dad whipped him with a belt, would any of you find this a good punishment? He got expelled and My mom had to drive him to school and the school was about 5 miles farther than the school he got expelled from.

[Reincarnate]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

besides andromeda is a ****ing awesome galaxy. too bad it's like 2 million light years away. luckily, it's on a collision course with our very own milky way galaxy.

besides i'm surprised a spank-loving gay-bashing neophyte ****face like virus003 even knows what andromeda is.

[DossarLX ODI]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

What should be considered is preventing the action from happening in the first place.

The biggest problem with spanking is that it can only be done after the action has occured.

[Reincarnate]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

Here is my final article contribution to this thread

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showpost.php?p=3335275&postcount=324

peace

[Organist]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

i got spanked and turned out alright. i also have a very close and trusting relationship with both of my parents. i never really found anything wrong with it, but it was more of a cultural thing. i also only got spanked for doing things aren't tolerated for children to do to their parents (in my culture) such as swearing, talking back, or anything of that sort

rubix, you're arguing as if there's only one method of disciplining a child. clearly that's not the case in this situation.. this is a fairly controversial and needless to say extremely subjective topic at hand

i think you're all better off agreeing to disagree.. this thread doesn't seem to be going anywhere.

[Reincarnate]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

rubix, you're arguing as if there's only one method of disciplining a child. clearly that's not the case in this situation.. this is a fairly controversial and needless to say extremely subject topic at hand

just because there are two different viewpoints doesn't mean they're equally valid. the evidence clearly points towards an overwhelmingly clear conclusion in favor of positive reinforcement over spanking. there are obviously many ways to discipline a child, but that doesn't mean they're all equally good and boil down to "matter of opinion."

[DossarLX ODI]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

Obviously there's more than one method - but spanking isn't that efficient of a tool to use. It's like using a saw to cut a piece of paper in half - it may work, but it's absolute overkill/unnecessary and also uncomfortable. Alternatives would be scissors (easy to use and more efficient for cutting the paper), etc.

[virus003]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

I don't get why you'd want to say that you posted an article like that to "shut someone up". It doesn't render the arguments stated against spanking as invalid.

Neither was this vvv

Here is my final article contribution to this thread

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showpost.php?p=3335275&postcount=324

peace

you're cute

what ever happened to people having the right to an opinion

oh yeah mr rubix here has to be the worlds biggest ****ing jerk off and doesn't comprehend with anyone, he must be right,

"yeah you're wrong, statistics show this"

oh yeah i thought you were out of this thread wut happened

[DossarLX ODI]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

So you're denying his right to his opinion of statistics and empirical evidence to back up his claims being more effective?

Opinions tend to have a good amount of bias in them, while data collected from experiments are more objective.

[virus003]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

Obviously there's more than one method - but spanking isn't that efficient of a tool to use. It's like using a saw to cut a piece of paper in half - it may work, but it's absolute overkill/unnecessary and also uncomfortable. Alternatives would be scissors (easy to use and more efficient for cutting the paper), etc.

So what's a good alternative to spanking? That's my point that I'm trying to get to.