What does it take for kids to learn?

[G.S.M]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

I only come off as an ass if people are stupid -- it's pretty simple.

How so? There are fairly intelligent people on this site - including me. I can plainly see your ego takes over a lot, even if it is fact. I have seen some dumb posts from people that I agree are stupid... but it is their opinion.

I want facts too, I give facts, I want facts... not lies. You aren't always right, I am not always right. I am not flaming you... I just see what I see.

I do not know you personally... only what you post on the forums.

What do they achieve but putting fear into a child?

I think the only time it is acceptable to yell at a child is if they're in danger.

I can only base it off personal experience... which wasn't bad, at all.

I had a anger problem as a child... I flipped over the table a few times, or threw the vacuum on the ground, that in itself is worthy of being yelled at or spanked even if I agree with it or not (never with a spoon or any object though). Was never feared of that though, it was light. also no longer have anger issues

Now I understand that other people had bad experiences and will always say its bad no matter what... maybe it is, but I can say it has not affected me - though it was very rare and was never beaten to a pulp like other kids.

As for the fear thing... I do know what that feels like. Once I threw a chair into a antique whatever it was, which was accidental. My uncle found out and came over, yelled at me as loud as he could, pushed me down. He was really pissed, it was wrong what I did, but he was wrong to what he did. (I was pretty young)

he is a nice guy and has had a tough life... that is no excuse. I am a pretty strong willed person though. Stuff like this doesn't affect me. I do learn from dumb things other people do, so I do not make that same mistake.

I have not experienced the tough life other kids have had so I can't really say much about being beaten. I will have rules with my children and put my foot down. I will never hit them.

fear in a child is wrong.

[Reincarnate]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

How so? There are fairly intelligent people on this site - including me. I can plainly see your ego takes over a lot, even if it is fact. I have seen some dumb posts from people that I agree are stupid... but it is their opinion.

I want facts too, I give facts, I want facts... not lies. You aren't always right, I am not always right. I am not flaming you... I just see what I see.

I do not know you personally... only what you post on the forums.

Your definition of "intelligent" must be pretty LOL.

When you don't call people out on their stupidity, people go through life with complete untruths and misconceptions that ultimately destroy a lot of value and cause harm. There is a certain danger to this sort of unwarranted "respect for opinion" when it simply comes down to ignorance. "Opinions" can still be dumb and uninformed. I don't care if "it's just your opinion" that we need a flamethrower to light birthday candles. It's a stupid opinion when there are better alternatives.

It's not egotistical to correct misconceptions that may cause others harm down the road.

No, nobody is "always right," but if you're going to prove someone wrong, you need to have good reason. That's how science works. You have to challenge the data and observations if you're going to assert something as true that conflicts with it. Simply ignoring the data and saying "Well I think this is still true anyway" is just sticking your fingers in your ears and going "la la la!" It's stubborn, intentional ignorance -- and THAT is far more arrogant.

[G.S.M]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

Your definition of "intelligent" must be pretty LOL.

When you don't call people out on their stupidity, people go through life with complete untruths and misconceptions that ultimately destroy a lot of value and cause harm. There is a certain danger to this sort of unwarranted "respect for opinion" when it simply comes down to ignorance. "Opinions" can still be dumb and uninformed. I don't care if "it's just your opinion" that we need a flamethrower to light birthday candles. It's a stupid opinion when there are better alternatives.

It's not egotistical to correct misconceptions that may cause others harm down the road.

No, nobody is "always right," but if you're going to prove someone wrong, you need to have good reason. That's how science works. You have to challenge the data and observations if you're going to assert something as true that conflicts with it. Simply ignoring the data and saying "Well I think this is still true anyway" is just sticking your fingers in your ears and going "la la la!" It's stubborn, intentional ignorance -- and THAT is far more arrogant.

Actually I do point it out to people. I do it the same way you do it except without sounding like a ass even if it's not your intention. I do not ignore data like you suggest, I will happily look at your facts. I am a successful person in life for a reason. and yes I know how science works. these are forums on a game site however, I do not care what is fact or fiction, I enjoy reading arguments, dumb or not

I listen to every side, doesn't mean I am going to follow stupid logic just because some person doesn't know what they're doing. You have no idea what I think about intelligent people... there are all kinds. You are only one.

ps i would love to light candles with a flamethrower

[who_cares973]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

this turned out into another

user(s): rubix is an ass
rubix: but im a correct ass

[G.S.M]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

this turned out into another

user(s): rubix is an ass
rubix: but im a correct ass

yeah I knew it was a bad idea to post about rubix seeing as how the other threads turned out

mistake on my part

[Rubin0]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

The best part about intelligence is the ability to know when to stop.

[G.S.M]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

The best part about intelligence is the ability to know when to stop.

agreed

[Reincarnate]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

unless you're bored

[welsh_girl]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

I agree with everything you said welsh_girl, except that you should expect bad behavior from a 4 year old. A child can be trained to behave at a very early age and if done correctly and consistently you can have a very obedient four year old. This is not always the case because people don't expect much from infants. They are unbelievably intelligent and perceptive. If they know that doing certain things will result in certain things that they like, they will do it. I've worked with children, both in child care and in therapy settings, and I can tell you right now that you don't have to tell a child things 2348949 for them to do something the first time.

Thanks, Rubin0!
I agree with what you've said too (expect the word "trained" it personally doesn't settle with me well on a child)

My 21month old is the most happy, friendly, kind, gentle, sweet little Girl you could meet. That may just be her personality but I do beleive it's because I've never shouted at her, I would never dare smack her, she get praised for everything wonderful she does and get so much love. Something a lot of kids are missing, which I beleive makes them naughty, because they're craving the attention they're not receiving.

I can only base it off personal experience... which wasn't bad, at all.

I had a anger problem as a child... I flipped over the table a few times, or threw the vacuum on the ground, that in itself is worthy of being yelled at or spanked even if I agree with it or not (never with a spoon or any object though). Was never feared of that though, it was light. also no longer have anger issues

Now I understand that other people had bad experiences and will always say its bad no matter what... maybe it is, but I can say it has not affected me - though it was very rare and was never beaten to a pulp like other kids.

As for the fear thing... I do know what that feels like. Once I threw a chair into a antique whatever it was, which was accidental. My uncle found out and came over, yelled at me as loud as he could, pushed me down. He was really pissed, it was wrong what I did, but he was wrong to what he did. (I was pretty young)

he is a nice guy and has had a tough life... that is no excuse. I am a pretty strong willed person though. Stuff like this doesn't affect me. I do learn from dumb things other people do, so I do not make that same mistake.

I have not experienced the tough life other kids have had so I can't really say much about being beaten. I will have rules with my children and put my foot down. I will never hit them.

fear in a child is wrong.

I still don't beleive you should of been yelled/smacked. But I'm glad you're ok.

[Rubin0]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

I'm sorry, I didn't mean for it to sound like you are training a dog. I think of it as the same way you train an employee or go through potty training with a child. People are trained to do things every day but we often relate the word "training" to animals doing tricks.

[welsh_girl]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

No problem!, that's the first thing that came to my head was "Dog" and "Animals" lol.

Feels like a really harsh word now I'm thinking about it. I'm just being silly over sensitive tonight.

[G.S.M]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

Thanks, Rubin0!
I agree with what you've said too (expect the word "trained" it personally doesn't settle with me well on a child)

My 21month old is the most happy, friendly, kind, gentle, sweet little Girl you could meet. That may just be her personality but I do beleive it's because I've never shouted at her, I would never dare smack her, she get praised for everything wonderful she does and get so much love. Something a lot of kids are missing, which I beleive makes them naughty, because they're craving the attention they're not receiving.




I still don't beleive you should of been yelled/smacked. But I'm glad you're ok.

Thank you.

My parents were actually really nice to me. They had their rules, of course. It was mostly just my uncle that one time. I was the first child, my mom did a fantastic job raising me. She shares the views I have, those light spanks were not bad. Hitting may be wrong but I can say it wasn't bad for me.

I will never do it though, no worry there.

i mean that's all I can say lol

idk my grandpa was a war vet, very smart, very nice, and my grandma lived in the ww2 era born a bit earlier before as well in germany, very smart, very nice like my grandpa too. I don't know if they ever spanked my mom or uncle, never asked. I am sure they have though. Even through the stuff they have been through they have been amazing to their children.

So those parents that have a first child or are damn lazy bastards have no excuse at all. None at all.

whatever they had passed down to my mom and to me.

Hitting is wrong, I agree.

[ghost-]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

It's nice how G.S.M. can say the same things I said (our childhoods are pretty similar, light smacks, etc.) yet everybody will be nice towards him instead of what I got which was a nice big fist of "f*ck your childhood".

Just making an observation. GSM you're a pre cool dude, I feel like I know you just by your posts. :P

[G.S.M]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

It's nice how G.S.M. can say the same things I said (our childhoods are pretty similar, light smacks, etc.) yet everybody will be nice towards him instead of what I got which was a nice big fist of "f*ck your childhood".

Just making an observation. GSM you're a pre cool dude, I feel like I know you just by your posts. :P

hah thanks man :P

[who_cares973]

Re: What does it take for kids to learn?

i prefer to use teaching over training