That's Just Not Right...That's Sick.

[NFD]

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You're pushed to being critical when it kills you. Hence the thread.

[psychopete]

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OrganisM, the thing is, though, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, no matter how baseless it may be. Besides, you not liking bigots due to the fact that they're bigots is bigotry itself.

Now, I'm (of course) all for people being tolerant of us, but then again, there is intolerance in this world, no matter what. We can't do anything to change that.

As for the issue of not feeling anything about the event described in the OP, just because we can't change anything doesn't mean we can't be angry due to them being a despicable human being. It may be wasted anger, but it's natural to be angry at something inhumane.

[rzr]

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It may be natural, but what exactly are you going to do with that anger? Are you going to go punch a wall because of something that happened that's completely out of your control? The anger is useless.

[csoup1414]

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If the source of this story was only your friend, I'd say that you should not just take his word for it that her son being gay was her reason for pulling the plug. Try to see if there's another reason for her doing it. I'm sure that although she may not have approved of his sexual orientation, she must have had other motives. I don't think doctors would have allowed her to off him if they said he was going to recover.

If this is really true though, that is the most terrible thing I've heard in a while.

I agree, some things get pretty twisted up when coming from other people, not the source. I experieced it on Friday (ugh, band kids).
Anyway, that is a horrible thing to do only because somebody is gay.
People disgust me >=[

[OrganisM]

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By deductive reasoning, I've concluded that you have nothing else to look forward to except arguing on this thread and and trying to make yourself seem superior to everyone else.

By deductive reasoning

By deductive reasoning

A syllogism:

All cats have hair
Socrates had hair
Therefore Socrates was a cat.

Your inference is incorrect, and I'll actually be the better person in not insinuating how your life must be running. I know, the fact that I don't post about all of what is going in my life must be killing you with suspense. But the fact that I haven't posted about it doesn't necessarily mean nothing is happening. Oh wait, your logic is bulletproof. I rest my case.

PS - There are people whose opinions I do respect. Chief among them is devonin. Same with Jewpin. I also hold respect for Squeek, Mal, TRD, Grandiagod, even Guido with our pleasant exchanges. There are also several others I haven't listed, but I suppose since I haven't begged them for a dongshot in the face, that means I must not value their opinions.

It's funny, you guys talk all about how FFR's forums are going to hell and how nobody is showing up, yet when I try to show interest, you shut me down and say I don't have a life. And don't say it's because of how abrasive I am, or because of anything about me. Most people here act that way to anybody who's not a part of their little "group".

I've got news for you - I own and run a business, take classes online, am in the process of writing a book, I'm learning music production and upgrading my equipment, I'm helping another business with IT matters, and I'm dealing with a messy relationship situation. I'd say that makes my days pretty full. But hey, because I don't advertise it and post whiny threads screaming woe is me, it must not be happening. And if I choose to involve myself in this community, I must have no life. Your inferences are garbage, and this is why I think you're a piece of ****.

[ieatyourlvllol]

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I think this thread has deteriorated because strawberry jam is sticky!

[OrganisM]

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And by default apparently you cannot be wrong!

[robertsona]

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i like pears so buttsex can give you cancer

[Fenrirs Nova]

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I've got news for you - I own and run a business, take classes online, am in the process of writing a book, I'm learning music production and upgrading my equipment, I'm helping another business with IT matters, and I'm dealing with a messy relationship situation. I'd say that makes my days pretty full. But hey, because I don't advertise it and post whiny threads screaming woe is me, it must not be happening. And if I choose to involve myself in this community, I must have no life. Your inferences are garbage, and this is why I think you're a piece of ****.

Well... *sigh* If that's the way you feel, I can't stop you. And once again, since I didn't put a (figurative) on the sentence, you have taken it literally. Nonetheless, my opinion hasn't changed one bit about homosexuality. If you can't change someone's perspective by debate and discussion, your time spent trying has been wasted. You're not very good at arguing, only criticism. Actually very good at criticism(not being sarcastic). But I'm not going to try to change that because it might be a good trait, but also because at my current level of knowledge on psychology, it's impossible. Again, my opinion hasn't changed. But thanks all for the entertaining chat. You especially, OrganisM. ^.^

[psychopete]

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It may be natural, but what exactly are you going to do with that anger? Are you going to go punch a wall because of something that happened that's completely out of your control? The anger is useless.

Whoa, who said anything about using that anger for anything? There are points where you just feel angry that something happened, it's not like you have to do anything because of your anger.

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Wow, we weren't saying you were wrong or acting like your opinion doesn't matter. Your opinion has just as much merit as another person's (EDIT: by that I mean that we're not ignoring your views, not tossing them to the side, you have a right to speak your mind as well). People think the way they think, we can't change that (unless you suddenly gain the ability to manipulate people through the internet, but sorry, that eBay auction ended). People form opinions based on things without a shred of evidence behind it all the time, we can't stop it from happening, despite how stupid it is.

I think this thread has deteriorated because strawberry jam is sticky!

A+ response, would read again.

[KA0Z R4VR]

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This thread started to lose its meaning. Can we close this? This is pointless...

[IDKW2CM]

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Yes, I agree.
Close it.

[Tater Tot]

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Dude, this thread lost its meaning on page two.

[Silvuh]

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By deductive reasoning, I've concluded that you have nothing else to look forward to except arguing on this thread and and trying to make yourself seem superior to everyone else.

And once again, since I didn't put a (figurative) on the sentence, you have taken it literally.

The quote above this one equates to saying "You have no life". You said you came to the conclusion through deductive reasoning, so it sounds like you meant to be taken seriously. I'd like to know how you thought someone would be able to assume you didn't mean for it to be taken literally.

Nonetheless, my opinion hasn't changed one bit about homosexuality.

When you say "homosexuality", do you mean "what causes homosexuality"? If not, then that sentence is irrelevant. If so, then that's too bad. After stating your belief, you were advised to base your beliefs on facts. Seems like a reasonable request, right? Criticism might not change your beliefs, but perhaps research will.

Your opinion has just as much merit as another person's.

Why are people still saying this... What you're saying supports the reasoning that the opinions of a scholar who knows the facts about the subject at hand have no more merit than opinions not supported with logic and fact from someone else. I would like to see a revised statement that invalidates this retort.


About the event described in the OP... well, I have nothing to say about it that hasn't already been said. Odd how there was no ... law stuff going on in that situation, as behanjc mentioned on the first page. That's what worries me more, because that's an issue with the law and not a person's beliefs—if I'm not mistaken.

Triple-Ninja'd edit: Well, as I said, I can't think of anything that hasn't already been said. Maybe other people have that same thought, too. (Which may be why they aren't posting about it.) It would be nice if the OP returned with more information on the event—information that answers some of our questions, that is. ("I was informed that ..." doesn't cut it, because it states no source.) Maybe then the topic will return to its original meaning.

[OrganisM]

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because at my current level of knowledge on psychology, it's impossible

You are an idiot, and on top of that, you're incredibly arrogant. Funny how I get accused of that and yet I don't have this pretense that somehow I'm right just because I am. I actually base my opinions on some sort of fact or substance and then back it up with a good argument. You just say 'WAHH I'M RIGHT BECAUSE I AM, WHY DOESN'T ANYBODY UNDERSTAND ME?! WAHH"

People think the way they think, we can't change that. People form opinions based on things without a shred of evidence behind it all the time, we can't stop it from happening, despite how stupid it is.

So when there's ignorance and stupidity out there it's best to just sit down and shut up? Funny how any time I just might be right, you and several others revert to "well you know what? It didn't matter anyways." You lose, get over yourself.

the whole issue itself is opinion. And whether or not they have "baseless" opinion (also known as being bias), they are entitled to that opinion. And for you to point out fallacies like you know every logical reasoning is starting to derail this "chit chat" into a "tl;dr" forum.

So you're calling Critical Thinking a derailed tl;dr forum? All opinions are not equal. Regardless of opinion, it must be DERIVED from fact. If you base it on thin air, your argument is worthless and your opinion means nothing. We're supposed to be entitled to our opinions, yet so few of us bother to substantiate them. And the fact that you're allowed to be a misinformed jackass doesn't make your opinion valid, nor does it make all opinions equally valid.