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  • OrganisM
    FFR Player
    • Oct 2006
    • 2644

    #31
    Re: Tom Brady is out for the Year

    Originally posted by MystictheHedgehog
    Oh dear, OrganisM has posted in this thread. Everyone who disagrees with him, prepare to get flamed.
    Hey you, hang yourself. Not for disagreeing with me, but because you take anger at stupidity as frustration with disagreement. Learn the difference, please.

    I find it interesting that the guy from Philly has a problem with Brady because he's apparently a snob (the SB loss wouldn't have anything to do with that, right?), though I often see Brady speak on TV and a sometimes surprised by how kind and genuine he acts. I don't understand why it's proper to attack their character. If there's anything to dislike, it's the willingness to knowingly break the rules by doing that illegal taping, whether the advantage gained is significant or not.

    And everybody I talk to seems to be convinced that the Patriots would be nothing without Brady. Well guess what, guys? The Steelers would be a 3-13 team this year without Roethlisberger. The Cowboys would fall flat on their face and not even make the playoffs without Romo. The Colts would have a hard time winning a single game without Manning. I mean, who here is ready for the Jim Sorgi era to start?

    The point here is the quarterback is a vital position in football, regardless of team, and saying that your team needs a great quarterback is like saying you've got to have legs to run. And then I hear people saying the Patriots would not have such good stats from their receivers if the offensive line weren't so great. That's kind of true. And that's exactly why the best teams require best players at all positions, and excellent play in all three stages of the game. Take the Steelers for instance. Aside from their injuries, the main thing that hurt them last year was obviously their offensive line. Parker was great and would probably have had the NFL rushing title had he not broken his leg, but his 4.1 average yards per carry saw him getting stuffed at the line almost every time, and he's been woeful as the goal-line back. No support from the O-line. Roethlisberger got sacked 47 times last year, vs the 23 when the Steelers won the superbowl. No O-line. How can your receivers get good stats if the quarterback has no chance to throw? No O-line there either. Last year, the Steelers had the number one overall defense, even without Polamalu half the time, an injured Polamalu the rest, and no Aaron Smith through the last part of the year. Hines Ward set the Steelers WR TD record. Roethlisberger set a club record with TDs. His passer rating was 104.1, second in the league, only second to Tom Brady and his record-breaking season. But you know what? The Steelers went 10-6 and were knocked out in the first round of the playoffs. There are many unfortunate circumstances working against them in that last half of the season, but part of the reason their 7-2 start deteriorated into a 10-6 playoff disaster is because even though they had a lot of great players doing very well, they just didn't have all the pieces yet. Without that, you're not going to be as good as you can be.

    Oh, sorry, Mystic, I just came in here to flame. My bad.
    Last edited by OrganisM; 09-9-2008, 01:24 PM.
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    Originally Posted by jewpinthethird[link]:
    "If you get stung by enough bees you turn into a bee,
    because the venom gets into the blood stream which
    spreads bee DNA throughout your entire body...
    changing your genetic structure into a bee's.

    Every year roughly 125 people in America are turned into bees this way."


    Originally Posted by
    MrRubix[link]:
    "Do you basically bukkake-paint your walls every time you jack it?"

    Originally Posted by All_That_Chaz[link]:
    "My pity-sex depreciates at a rate of 5% annually."

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    • MarukuAntoni
      mmmMMMmmm
      • Apr 2007
      • 521

      #32
      Re: Tom Brady is out for the Year

      Originally posted by jump_the_bullet
      till last night when got beat by the BEARS!

      DAAAA BEARS!!!

      even i was shocked lol
      Actually Peyton did pretty well. It was the fumbles from other players that hurt them alot.
      IF I CAN CLIMB A TREE, I CAN CLIMB MT EVEREST. IF I CAN DRIVE A CAR, I CAN PILOT A SPACE SHUTTLE. IF I CAN PEE, I CAN BE THE PRESIDENT. IF I CAN POO, I CAN RULE THE WORLD!

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      • footbull3196
        Banned
        • Oct 2007
        • 514

        #33
        Re: Tom Brady is out for the Year

        We can only wait until next week, or maybe the week after that, to see the full effects of losing Tom Brady.

        His loss may not have a huge impact, as long as they can still throw it up to Randy Moss and have Welker make 15 receptions every game, they might have a chance. (exaggeration)

        And Seattle is not an easy opponent. Don't be fooled by their easy division (NFC West). Their home field (Qwest Field) is one of the toughest places to play in.

        It was even featured in the NFL's top 10 Home Field Advantages (#9, I think, maybe #8).

        It depends if it's somewhat easy or not. Are the Patriots playing at home or do they have to travel to Seattle?

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        • lumphoboextreme
          FFR Veteran
          • Jan 2005
          • 8592

          #34
          Re: Tom Brady is out for the Year

          Originally posted by footbull3196
          http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...o&confirm=true

          YES!!! I AM SO HAPPY!!! I HATE BRADY!!!

          Seriously, he's overrated.
          Stopped reading here, I mean don't get me wrong or anything I hate Tom Brady too but you're just plain dumb for thinking he's overrated. I'd say he's honestly one of the top 5 QB's ever. That just ruined my friends chances of winning a fantasy match this season though, I made sure to rub it in at lunch.

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          • lumphoboextreme
            FFR Veteran
            • Jan 2005
            • 8592

            #35
            Re: Tom Brady is out for the Year

            Originally posted by dore
            Tom Brady is so overrated. Right. Remember his first season, where the Patriots started out 0-2? He took over, and they went from a bad team to a Super Bowl champion team. That's how important he is to the Patriots.

            The only quarterback who can compare to him is Peyton Manning. Both are extremely accurate and run their offenses to perfection. Both have great supporting casts, but they both make their entire offense better through their superior preparation and skill.

            Will the Pats make the playoffs? I think so. I hope so. But they will not be anything close to a great team like their recent Super Bowl.

            As a sidenote, you are a horrible football fan (and human being) if you are glad he got injured. He is one of the greatest players in the league and his absence will be bad for football as a whole. Even as a fan of another team, you have to admit it's fun to watch Tom Brady and the Patriots' offense work their magic. Just like I hate the Colts but I love to watch their offense demolish teams (providing that team isn't the Pats ).
            Exactly, watching the Patriots completely run over the jets or dolphins last year always gave me a good laugh. Patriots won't make playoffs though

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            • OrganisM
              FFR Player
              • Oct 2006
              • 2644

              #36
              Re: Tom Brady is out for the Year

              Originally posted by footbull3196
              And Seattle is not an easy opponent.
              That's why the Bills trashed them last Sunday and also why the Steelers hammered them 21-0 last year, as well as why ever since losing the Superbowl, the Seahawks haven't been able to get back. They play in the weakest division ever, and as a result get a virtually automatic berth in the playoffs.

              I mean, look at their schedule from last year and how well they did.

              .

              Originally Posted by jewpinthethird[link]:
              "If you get stung by enough bees you turn into a bee,
              because the venom gets into the blood stream which
              spreads bee DNA throughout your entire body...
              changing your genetic structure into a bee's.

              Every year roughly 125 people in America are turned into bees this way."


              Originally Posted by
              MrRubix[link]:
              "Do you basically bukkake-paint your walls every time you jack it?"

              Originally Posted by All_That_Chaz[link]:
              "My pity-sex depreciates at a rate of 5% annually."

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              • footbull3196
                Banned
                • Oct 2007
                • 514

                #37
                Re: Tom Brady is out for the Year

                You know, I have an idea.

                I think there should be a seperate forum or subforum for sports. That way, the people who like sports can talk about it all they want.

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                • MystictheHedgehog
                  FFR Veteran
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 699

                  #38
                  Re: Tom Brady is out for the Year

                  Originally posted by OrganisM
                  Hey you, hang yourself. Not for disagreeing with me, but because you take anger at stupidity as frustration with disagreement. Learn the difference, please.

                  Oh, sorry, Mystic, I just came in here to flame. My bad.
                  Originally posted by OrganisM
                  Hang yourself. You have no idea what you are talking about and you're a disgrace to humanity.

                  So much for your sorry ass leaving. You didn't even clear 48 hours.
                  Originally posted by OrganisM
                  Hang yourself.
                  See, this is why you piss me off. First, you come in here and yell because you think you are on some high pedestal that you have the ability to come in a thread and not make any effort to contribute to thread. Instead, you just spread your idiocy and flame. Get over yourself, mature a little bit, and stop acting like a 13 year old.


                  On topic, Seattle is by NO means a cakewalk. They played like crap last week, yes. But just because of one game, your going to say they are terrible? So in the context, the Colts and Chargers are cakewalks because they looked bad week 1.

                  Plus, Seattle is a hard place to play in, regardless of how good the team is. The fans are so loud, I'm pretty sure they have cause the most false starts the past 3 years or so.
                  Originally posted by Jerry DB
                  how does that even make sense? in the beginning of time there was this 5 billion dollar machine that forced two particles to collide at the speed of light. lets re create that. DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

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                  • dore
                    caveman pornstar
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Music Producer
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 6317

                    #39
                    Re: Tom Brady is out for the Year

                    Originally posted by footbull3196
                    You know, I have an idea.

                    I think there should be a seperate forum or subforum for sports. That way, the people who like sports can talk about it all they want.
                    There really wouldn't be a point because the only time sports threads actually go anywhere are for the start of a season or the championship games for football, basketball, or baseball, or the international sports events.
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

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                    • clarinet89
                      FFR Player
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 899

                      #40
                      Re: Tom Brady is out for the Year

                      I'm kind of happy only because a rival team on my fatasy football league has him. But I do feel bad for him.

                      Questionable Content

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                      • aTzUeLo1191
                        FFR Player
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 594

                        #41
                        Re: Tom Brady is out for the Year

                        I have to say...I actually agree with OrganisM (gasp!).

                        When it comes to playing against the big boys, simply put, Seattle didn't show up. Their lack of a running game hurts them, while back when Alexander was there he could actually run the ball. Sure, Qwest Field is tough to play in, but that doesn't mean they are a great team.


                        Originally posted by omgitznpv
                        brb suicide
                        JOIN TWG NAO!!!

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                        • OrganisM
                          FFR Player
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 2644

                          #42
                          Re: Tom Brady is out for the Year

                          Originally posted by MystictheHedgehog
                          See, this is why you piss me off. First, you come in here and yell because you think you are on some high pedestal that you have the ability to come in a thread and not make any effort to contribute to thread. Instead, you just spread your idiocy and flame. Get over yourself, mature a little bit, and stop acting like a 13 year old.
                          To be clear, I don't care what you think. I have contributed to said thread, though you ignore that, and you speak as if you've any concept of maturity, and as if it's linked to chronological age, though I best you in that if we're going to play that game. It is you who must get over yourself. Though following my advice and hanging yourself will probably be a preferable alternative to actually taking your own advice and maturing a little bit.

                          On topic, Seattle is by NO means a cakewalk. They played like crap last week, yes. But just because of one game, your going to say they are terrible? So in the context, the Colts and Chargers are cakewalks because they looked bad week 1.

                          Plus, Seattle is a hard place to play in, regardless of how good the team is. The fans are so loud, I'm pretty sure they have cause the most false starts the past 3 years or so.
                          Can you read? I didn't say just because of last week. I referenced last season, as well as previous seasons where their schedule has been incredibly easy. But I suppose you'll just skip right over what I'm saying and launch attacks at me.

                          Your statistic on the false starts and difficulty of play... what do you have to substantiate it? Ahh, nothing. And by nothing, I mean nothing substantial, some measurable statistic you've based your statement on.

                          The Colts, if you know anything about football, have been one of the best teams this decade, second only to the Patriots. They have been absolutely dominant for the past five years, with records of 12-4, 12-4, 14-2, 12-4, and 13-3. And that's playing in the toughest division in football. Their quarterback is one of the best to ever set foot on the gridiron. They have more than proven themselves, and they actually won the Superbowl two seasons ago.

                          The Seahawks, on the other hand, have had an inconsistent running attack and have had trouble since Shaun Alexander fell out of his prime, which put more pressure on Hasselbeck, who is good but not good enough to carry a team without a running game. He doesn't have nearly enough of a supporting cast, so the offense has been ineffective, which has been shown many times, including that shutout by the Steelers and the poor showing in Buffalo, which last year was a woeful team with few bright spots beside Trent Edwards strengthening his game at the end of the year, and Marshawn Lynch's ability as a running back, as much as it was overshadowed by AP's performance.

                          So, your logic is crap. In that context, you say, yet you assume that your poor logic automatically generates truth. Get a clue before you start speaking, because you look like a moron.

                          If anybody wants to debate serious merits in football, I enjoy that. But if you want to argue that Brady is useless, or the Seahawks must be the bestestest team evar, or that the Colts are the same team as the Seahawks because of a week 1 loss, seriously just don't bother posting, because it's embarrassing how little you pay attention to fact and generate an informed opinion from it.

                          I like the Seahawks, and I love the city of Seattle, but I'm looking at the facts here. Seattle is a reasonably solid if overrated team, playing in a weak division. If they can pull themselves together through the playoffs and keep their key players healthy, they have a shot at something. But that's mainly because of their weak division opposition pratically guaranteeing them a division title and a spot in the playoffs. The only legitimate contender in their division might be Arizona, but that team still has a long way to go. But the Rams? The 49ers? The Rams are a 3-13 team that's already battered in week 1. The 49ers are pathetic in virtually every aspect of gameplay (as sad as I am to say it) and their only reasonable bright spot is Gore. But Gore can't win them games.

                          Hmm, the Seahawks get 6 games against two pitiful teams and an average team that's still a ways away. All you have to do is look at their record from last year and who they won and lost against, and you'll see they're not as good as they're cracked up to be.
                          Last edited by OrganisM; 09-10-2008, 01:48 PM.
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                          Originally Posted by jewpinthethird[link]:
                          "If you get stung by enough bees you turn into a bee,
                          because the venom gets into the blood stream which
                          spreads bee DNA throughout your entire body...
                          changing your genetic structure into a bee's.

                          Every year roughly 125 people in America are turned into bees this way."


                          Originally Posted by
                          MrRubix[link]:
                          "Do you basically bukkake-paint your walls every time you jack it?"

                          Originally Posted by All_That_Chaz[link]:
                          "My pity-sex depreciates at a rate of 5% annually."

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                          • aTzUeLo1191
                            FFR Player
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 594

                            #43
                            Re: Tom Brady is out for the Year

                            Don't forget the loss in the playoffs last year to the Packers...the only offense they gained until late was after 2 early Grant fumbles, and that overhyped defense gave up 42 points and 200 rushing yards to Grant.

                            tl;dr over last few posts: Seattle can't match up to the top-tier teams.


                            Originally posted by omgitznpv
                            brb suicide
                            JOIN TWG NAO!!!

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                            • OrganisM
                              FFR Player
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 2644

                              #44
                              Re: Tom Brady is out for the Year

                              Exactly, notice last season the games that counted against the skilled teams ended up as losses or even blowouts (the Packers and Steelers as an example).

                              And when I praise the Patriots and Colts, I want you guys to understand me clearly. I'm a die-hard Steeler fan, so when I watch NFL Network and hear nothing but Colts and Patriots crap, it drives me nuts given that my team is easily a contender and is almost never talked about. So, when I say how good a team like that is, you can be sure it's not over-hyped bias.

                              If Seattle were actually in a good division, they'd be at the bottom. Look at Philly. They're a great team when healthy and in their prime, as evidenced by their Superbowl run. They're better than the Seahawks, if not sometimes similar in their shortcomings, and they went 8-8 last year. In the Beast, I don't see the Seahawks going more than 5-11.
                              .

                              Originally Posted by jewpinthethird[link]:
                              "If you get stung by enough bees you turn into a bee,
                              because the venom gets into the blood stream which
                              spreads bee DNA throughout your entire body...
                              changing your genetic structure into a bee's.

                              Every year roughly 125 people in America are turned into bees this way."


                              Originally Posted by
                              MrRubix[link]:
                              "Do you basically bukkake-paint your walls every time you jack it?"

                              Originally Posted by All_That_Chaz[link]:
                              "My pity-sex depreciates at a rate of 5% annually."

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                              • footbull3196
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 514

                                #45
                                Re: Tom Brady is out for the Year

                                Ok, well, the Seahawks aren't that bad. Trust me. Just because of a few losses and a weak division, you're gonna say that they suck.

                                Arizona has a strong passing attack. I agree that they are years off from winning a Super Bowl. But they could at least be a 9-7 or 10-6 team this year because they have some of the best recievers in the league (Boldin, Fitzgerald, and more). If they would improve their defense and utilize Edgerrin James (what happened to him, he used to be great... I bet the Colts don't miss him at all).

                                I agree that San Francisco and St. Louis are bad teams.

                                But some of the games that they won last year were crucial games.

                                (Beating the Redskins in the playoffs, beating the Bucaneers, beating the Eagles)

                                You can't say they suck. They need a better rushing attack and defense, but you can't say they are worthy of 4-12.

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