Tazed University Student

[GuidoHunter]

Re: Tazed University Student

Wow.

Talk about a bunch of ******s. Arresting him, tasering him, and putting him in jail over a question? Choke on a dick, officers.

Wow.

Talk about a wild-eyed rhetorical generalization. I give you more credit than that, Tokzic.

He was asked to leave because he was being disruptive, purposefully disruptive, at that. He was asked to leave, but being the prick he was, he resisted and tried to feign being the victim. As such, he was subdued and arrested. He STILL resisted and refused to cooperate even when on the ground, so he was tazered and removed.

Dude had it coming.

Even so, the guy was trying to be as disruptive as he could. The tazer only faciliated his removal, as after that, he's not going to fight back. It's a nonlethal, non-injurious tool to pacify someone. Dude needed to be pacified, so they did it. He was removed and not injured at all (sure, a tazer hurts, but it causes no damage upon recovery). What was the previous solution to such a problem? A flashlight or truncheon to the head.

It doesn't matter, though. He obviously wanted to get tazered, and he did. Had he cooperated with the officers, or even the implied rules of asking questions at a panel like that, we wouldn't have had a problem, but he wouldn't be all over the news.

What a ****wit.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[OrganisM]

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He could've easily been removed by the mob of officers around him, and there are many cases in which tazers have killed people. It's inhumane.

If you'd rather get electrocuted than knocked out, you're out of your head.

The tazing was unnecessary and ridiculous.

I'm surprised at you, Guido. How can you assume what the guy wanted?

[GuidoHunter]

Re: Tazed University Student

He could've easily been removed by the mob of officers around him

Clearly not, given how much time they spent with him before actually tazing him. Even then, they didn't need to put up with his melodramatic ****. Taze him, get him out, problem solved.

If you'd rather get electrocuted than knocked out, you're out of your head.

Hm, some painful muscle spasms with no effects shortly after that, or a blow to the head which could cause problems ranging from at the very least a throbbing headache when you wake up to a cut head, a fractured skull, or even permanent brain damage? Tazing, please.

I'm surprised at you, Guido. How can you assume what the guy wanted?

Oh, please. The guy obviously didn't want to ask a question; he wanted a soapbox. He blew everything out of proportion and screamed every word. Added to this is the fact that he's known for bringing cameras to capture his doing wacky stuff. No rational person would behave as he did, so either he needs to be institutionalized or he wanted this attention. Had he not been tazed, none of us would have heard about this whole thing. Now he just has a bigger soapbox.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[fido123]

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If he wasn't asked to leave or be quite I think those police shouldn't of approached him until they asked him to quite down. However if he did just stay and be obnoxious I think tazering him was WAY over the top. They should of warned him "if you keep this up we will tazer you" as he was asking them to stop, and just how was he going to look like he stopped resisting to not get tazered when he's pinned down by six officers?

[madmatt621]

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(9/18/07 - GAINESVILLE, FL) - A University of Florida student was Tasered and arrested Monday when he attempted to speak at a forum with U.S. Sen. John Kerry during a question and answer session, university officials said.

Andrew Meyer, 21, asked Kerry, D-Mass., why he did not contest the 2004 presidential election, which he lost to President Bush, and why there had been no moves to impeach Bush.

"He apparently asked several questions -- he went on for quite awhile -- then he was asked to stop," university spokesman Steve Orlando said. "He had used his allotted time. His microphone was cut off then he became upset."

While as many as four police officers tried to remove Meyer from the forum, he yelled for help and asked "What did I do?" Minutes after Meyer started speaking, he was Tasered.
Meyer was charged with resisting an officer and disturbing the peace, according to Alachua County jail records. No bond had been set. Meyer was scheduled to appear in court Tuesday morning, a jail official said.

It was not known if Meyer had an attorney.

Orlando said university police would conduct an internal investigation on the incident.

"The police department does have a standard procedure for when they use force, including when they use a Taser," Orlando said. "That is what the internal investigation would address -- whether the proper procedures were followed, whether the officers acted appropriately."

Here we go.

EDIT: If you watch the video again, even the big black guy can't get him out of the room.

[bender5]

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There are two things that are messed up with this situation. Dumb ass people like the guy who got himself tazed, and many police officers. I happen to know quite a few accounts where the police blow stuff way out of proportion and do everything they can to make stuff worse then they need to be. They say they are there to be for the protection of people, but if you do anything slightly bad they go WAY too far. They could have just as easily pulled him out of the auditorium and then dealt with him rather then tazing him after 6 men were on top of him. I personally happen to have a strong dislike for the police because they are very ridiculous to many people far too often. Sure the guy had something coming to him for being so loud and resisting after the initial arrest, but being arrested for asking a senator questions is what makes our country fcking bullsht.

[GuidoHunter]

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being arrested for asking a senator questions is what makes our country fcking bullsht.

I see that you can't be bothered to read, but I'll say it again:

Wow.

Talk about a wild-eyed rhetorical generalization.

He was asked to leave because he was being disruptive, purposefully disruptive, at that. He was asked to leave, but being the prick he was, he resisted and tried to feign being the victim. As such, he was subdued and arrested. He STILL resisted and refused to cooperate even when on the ground, so he was tazered and removed.

Conclusion: no matter how much you want to spin this, he wasn't arrested for asking a question.

and just how was he going to look like he stopped resisting to not get tazered when he's pinned down by six officers?

Because he didn't stop resisting (in the hope that calming would prevent a tazing). He struggled up until the point he was tazed.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[bender5]

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Guido you don't realize that I did read that and quite thoroughly because I am a fan of blasting police, and yes I do realize that the man in question was a complete and utter moron and he probably shares one brain with the other 5 or 6 of his frat buddies he was with at the time. However, when his questions are considered to be disruptive enough to be arrested however annoying they may be it still raises the question of are they indeed going too far?

[Omeganitros]

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A taser is not lethal = FACT
A taser is lethal = BELIEF

The taser was used very properly. In a struggle, a number of things can happen. Broken noses, concussions, etc. The guys was resisting SEVERAL police officers, and rather than risking a struggle, they put his ass down so he wouldn't be kicking and screaming. It's not inhumane, you just imagine that it must be.

[DanceyDanceyDancer]

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i go to the university of florida. and students are making a lot of facebook groups on the matter. i didn't join any. should i? what's one more gonna matter?

but based off experience of my 2 months i've been living here, there are way to many police officers on the campus alone. there are i think over 100 officers for the campus alone, on top of the sheriff's department in gainesville alone. the speed limit is 20, and thats the most common thing to see... speeding tickets..

i just got home from chemistry. my friend almost got a ticket from the police officer directing traffic (get's busy at around 5pm) for jay walking. they also have a party patrol that crashes parties. lol

[GuidoHunter]

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However, when his questions are considered to be disruptive enough to be arrested

THEY WEREN'T!

His questions weren't the problem; his behavior was! Kerry was happy to answer his question, but the guy had no intention of hearing a response! He didn't want an answer; he wanted a soapbox. Those aren't allowed at such speeches.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[fido123]

Re: Tazed University Student

Something a bit more milder like pepper spray and handcuffs would have done the trick.

[bender5]

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My point happened to be that no matter how stupid some guy in the audience happened to be the situation should have been handled better. I really disagree with the fact that it needed to go as far as it did, but the thing that pisses me off most about these types of situations is that they get so blown out of proportions by everyone. Any one person takes something too far by being a beligerent asshole in the audience, to being a cop using what could be considered by some unreasonable force, to being a reporter discussing this story supporting the police making the man in question much worse then he is, or being a reporter supporting the man in question and casting the police in a shadow. No one can say for sure what the "right" thing would be to do in this situation from any angle unless they were there to witness just exactly what happened and the extent of everyone's actions. All I was pointing out that a simple thing of a man being disruptive at a political conference happened to end up into a major fiasco because of questionable reactions of police officers.

[GuidoHunter]

Re: Tazed University Student

That's fair.

I just happen to disagree and think they very much used appropriate force.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[bender5]

Re: Tazed University Student

That may be and if you notice I am changing that opinion quite a bit from my first post because I realize that my bias against police officers happened to be getting in the way of a very reasonable debate.

Personally I think the force may or may not have been too much, but i can't say for certain. And if the case happens to be that in the situation that is out of hand like that. I wish that it could have been dealt with much less violently =/