Hug your dog

[purebloodtexan]

Re: Hug your dog

Let me ask you guys this. What justifies your justification for such retaliatory actions(which, by the way if you could perpetrate, you would) in a situation such as this?

Why is it that we, as the human collective, generally rally and support violence in the form of such a movie as 300, or shows on HBO like Dexter, where we all find forms of violence in terms of retribution against horrible people are acceptable, yet many other times we do not advocate violence at all, especially when we perceive that the individuals who befall such fates do not deserve them.

"I'll rip his face off, I'll hunt him down."

Do you think that actually doing things like this would make you no better than he who committed to atrocities to begin with?

I might move this to critical thinking, where I expect some conversation.

Aperson said something to me last night, rather, presented my thoughts into one little phrase.

It's impermanence.

Tracking back to my original point, another good example of this fickle human support is the movie Man on Fire, or War and the support of destroying "terrorism" that was seen in the beginning of the American campaign.

Well, on 300, it's a state of war. What the man did (as far as we know) had no sensible provocation whatsoever.

[Specforces]

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Kilga hit my point exactly, in his very last sentence.

"If you're looking for an objective justification, however, then you're not going to get one. Hell, if we pull ourselves far enough back into the abstract and examine the situation from there, how do we know such an action requires justification?"

Think about it for a second.

[jamuko]

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It's true that nothing really matters in the grand scheme of things... who kills who, why such things happened; it's the same in the overall view of the world. If this girl's dog had been run over or something else less malicious instead, the objective world be be basically the same, but there would be much less brouhaha over it.

But as humans, we have such strong emotional responses to these things... while the objective world is hardly different, we actually care about the feelings of others, and what types of people they are. We have sympathy for people we feel are good people, and hatred for those who commit malicious acts. It's deep-rooted humanity. No matter what kind of environment one is accustomed to or what one's morals are, I believe there would be sympathy for a girl who had this happen to her. I can't imagine a world in which cutting dogs' heads off and rubbing it in would be considered a sane and justified act, unless you remove all sense of humanity from our minds.

[purebloodtexan]

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It's true that nothing really matters in the grand scheme of things... who kills who, why such things happened; it's the same in the overall view of the world. If this girl's dog had been run over or something else less malicious instead, the objective world be be basically the same, but there would be much less brouhaha over it.

But as humans, we have such strong emotional responses to these things... while the objective world is hardly different, we actually care about the feelings of others, and what types of people they are. We have sympathy for people we feel are good people, and hatred for those who commit malicious acts. It's deep-rooted humanity. No matter what kind of environment one is accustomed to or what one's morals are, I believe there would be sympathy for a girl who had this happen to her. I can't imagine a world in which cutting dogs' heads off and rubbing it in would be considered a sane and justified act, unless you remove all sense of humanity from our minds.

In Metropolis, Atlas did say that humans are an emotion-driven species, and in the end of his speech, said "...and without emotions, we are nothing."

[JurseyRider734]

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I said "i'll rip his face off" etc. on purpose, by the way. I thought it was kind of funny. =(

But this is also really sad.

[Specforces]

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I'm insane, I thought it was kind of funny too.