I'm out of mana.

[FictionJunction]

Re: I'm out of mana.

Im double majoring in computer animation and game design, i know how games work, and guess what, they are pretty much the same game just tweaked a bit, its just how your mind is interpreting those changes, whether you think it has better gameplay or better multiplayer, really doesnt have much to do with the technical elements of the game, its basically a change of scenery, new character models, throw in a storyline, and some new guns, adjust movement physics a bit and render it with a different rendering engine to give it better graphics, they basically all use the same template. But i know, you're a hardcore halo fan and nothing i say is going to change your mind about it....kinda like religion

Hi, run-on.

[CrimzonRain]

Re: I'm out of mana.

harsh

[evilbutterfly]

Re: I'm out of mana.

Im double majoring in computer animation and game design, i know how games work, and guess what, they are pretty much the same game just tweaked a bit, its just how your mind is interpreting those changes, whether you think it has better gameplay or better multiplayer, really doesnt have much to do with the technical elements of the game, its basically a change of scenery, new character models, throw in a storyline, and some new guns, adjust movement physics a bit and render it with a different rendering engine to give it better graphics, they basically all use the same template. But i know, you're a hardcore halo fan and nothing i say is going to change your mind about it....kinda like religion

If we were just comparing Halo and say, Unreal Tournament (the older ones with fewer modes), then sure. If we were just comparing Halo to Halo 2, sure. If we're just comparing every Final Fantasy game, SURE!

Halo is nothing like Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory. Neither of those are anything like Natural Selection. None of those are at all like Planetside. You are extremely ignorant about games. Not every FPS game is just a deathmatch. Any two games whose multiplayer modes contain a deathmatch option are going to be pretty similar, because they're in the same genre and subgenre. Lots of games are moving away from pure deathmatch style gameplay, which has caused a lot of originality and innovation in the genre. Lots of blending with other genres and adding of new elements to gameplay have so drastically changed FPS games. Back in the day, yes, there were tons of Doom clones and FPS games that were basically the exact same **** over and over, but that's true of any genre. Nowadays, things are VERY different between games.

Seriously, if you can't see how drastically different things are, either you've played like two FPS games in your life or you're retarded. Go download Enemy Territory (free on id's website, just google it) and tell me it's anything like Halo.

[FaughtNWon]

Re: I'm out of mana.

If we were just comparing Halo and say, Unreal Tournament (the older ones with fewer modes), then sure. If we were just comparing Halo to Halo 2, sure. If we're just comparing every Final Fantasy game, SURE!

Halo is nothing like Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory. Neither of those are anything like Natural Selection. None of those are at all like Planetside. You are extremely ignorant about games. Not every FPS game is just a deathmatch. Any two games whose multiplayer modes contain a deathmatch option are going to be pretty similar, because they're in the same genre and subgenre. Lots of games are moving away from pure deathmatch style gameplay, which has caused a lot of originality and innovation in the genre. Lots of blending with other genres and adding of new elements to gameplay have so drastically changed FPS games. Back in the day, yes, there were tons of Doom clones and FPS games that were basically the exact same **** over and over, but that's true of any genre. Nowadays, things are VERY different between games.

Seriously, if you can't see how drastically different things are, either you've played like two FPS games in your life or you're retarded. Go download Enemy Territory (free on id's website, just google it) and tell me it's anything like Halo.

Thats almost exactly what i was going to say.....

WIN.

[darkshark]

Re: I'm out of mana.

Lots of stuff about gameplay

Im talking about the Technical aspect of the games, ie. development process.

nevermind its not even worth explaining


lol church of halo

[Specforces]

Re: I'm out of mana.

ALL HAIL THE CHURCH.

Obviously people like the games, because people play them a lot.

I don't care that you don't like them, or you THINK that other games are better. Of course it's okay to think whatever you want to, however, whether or not a game is good is completely subjective, so I don't appreciate you coming in here and trying to tell me that the games I enjoy suck. Who cares, if I damn well like a game, system, or whatever, I'll buy it and enjoy it. It's my ****ing money, come off of your high horse and get over the fact that people like games you don't. People like you really make me sick. WHO GIVES A DAMN IF I LIKE A GAME THAT YOU DON'T? IT DOESN'T MATTER, IT'S MY MONEY.

And don't ever try to argue by dumbing down your sentences again, it just makes you look ignorant and adds no validity to your point.

and to argue against your "tweaking point"

If I'm eating a pumpkin pie made by the military, it's ****ty. Guess what? A pumpkin pie made by my mother is only a slightly altered version with little tweaks here or there. Obviously one is better than the other. It's the subtle differences in the physics, the weapons, the possible strategy through the usage of the environment AND the community that make the game. So the spices, the temperature and the amount of time my mother cooked the pie obviously made it that much better. Innovation doesn't always equate excellence beyond something that obviously works and just NEEDS a little bit of tweaking.

[Tokzic]

Re: I'm out of mana.

its just how your mind is interpreting those changes, whether you think it has better gameplay or better multiplayer, really doesnt have much to do with the technical elements of the game, its basically a change of scenery, new character models, throw in a storyline, and some new guns, adjust movement physics a bit and render it with a different rendering engine to give it better graphics, they basically all use the same template. But i know, you're a hardcore halo fan and nothing i say is going to change your mind about it....kinda like religion

Im talking about the Technical aspect of the games, ie. development process.

The retarded thing about your argument is you act like it's possible to break the restrictions of programming.

HEY GUYS I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU ALL GAMES ARE JUST A SERIES OF IF/THEN STATEMENTS THEY'RE ALL THE SAME

[tsugomaru]

Re: I'm out of mana.

ALL GAMES ARE GAMES!!!

Am I doing it right?

~Tsugomaru

[CrimzonRain]

Re: I'm out of mana.

ALL GAMES ARE GAMES!!!

Am I doing it right?

~Tsugomaru

No, there's certain aspects you must tweak.

[MalReynolds]

Re: I'm out of mana.

I have a rash now. I don't think I'm tweaking right.

[tsugomaru]

Re: I'm out of mana.

No, there's certain aspects you must tweak.

So you see, I'm tweaking my 2D game into a 3D game which will then be tweaked to a 4D game.

~Tsugomaru

[Coca Cola]

Re: I'm out of mana.

No, there's certain aspects you must tweak.

No, there are certain aspects you must tweak.

Bizatch

[evilbutterfly]

Re: I'm out of mana.

Im talking about the Technical aspect of the games, ie. development process. [The bold implies that we're all dumb when really you're being unclear. XD]

nevermind its not even worth explaining [Translation: I have no more points to make because my argument sucks, but I refuse to give up so I'm just gonna say something else that implies that you're all dumb.]

lol church of halo[for the record, I think Halo is overrated crap and only got popular because it was the only decent FPS on X-Box. In general, I hate FPS games on consoles]

Oh?

Sorry but Moogy is right, WoW, along with most other american made games do have alot of the same....well...everything, each genre contains hundreds of games, but all of which are basically the same
ZOMG HALO IS SO ASM IT R TEH BESTEST EVAR!!!
really whats it like?
YOU GO AROUND WITH GUNS N STUFFS AND SHOOOT PEEPUL
really? just like unreal tournament...and rainbow six....and soldier of fortune...and counter strike...and wolfenstein...and medal of honor...and quake...and doom...and half life?
NO ITS WAY DIFRENT
-_- kay

Oh I see now, you were talking about the technical aspect. Especially in that one sentence where you talk about the gameplay. And that other part where you state your opinion as fact. I get it now.

Oh nevermind, sarcasm is too hard to explain.

HEY GUYS I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU ALL GAMES ARE JUST A SERIES OF IF/THEN STATEMENTS THEY'RE ALL THE SAME

DON'T FORGET THE LOOPS!! YOU HAVE TO HAVE LOOPS!!!! =O

But anywho, Darkshark, you were arguing one thing and now that we've blown over your argument you just switch and say you weren't talking about that at all. The original argument (what Moogy was saying, what I responded with, what you first said, what Squeek said, what I (and others) responded again with) was about gameplay and whether or not American games are good/fun compared to Japanese games. Moogy (and others) say that Japan is the end-all be-all godly producer of awesome games. I (and others) are saying that the US (and other places) make games that are just as good as Japanese ones. Nobody was saying **** about technical aspects, and if you really want to, I could go find a bunch of benchmarks in games that the US has hit first, but I don't think that would help anything here.

But really, don't get me (and others) wrong. I like Japanese games. I love Gradius, Metal Gear, Zelda, and other great stuff from Japan. I just don't think ALL US games suck. I think saying such a thing is closed-minded and retarded. Moogy tends to be both. Squeek tends to be both. Apparently you are, too.

What a shame. =\

[FaughtNWon]

Re: I'm out of mana.

Faughts Andvanced Video Game Chart:

Shooting ----> RPG ---->x2<---- Action-----\/
|--------| E Rated Games-------|
\/ ->---------------------Butt Sex-------- \/Porno Games----------> Moogys Mom-^ | Katamari Damacy
. | \/ |
. FPSRPGs<-------------------| Action Games \/
. | Drug Use--\/
. | Dead END
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. Herpes?

[FictionJunction]

Re: I'm out of mana.

DON'T FORGET THE LOOPS!! YOU HAVE TO HAVE LOOPS!!!! =O

Ok, I'm finishing the loop.
Lap 2, begin!