For the older more mature audience here on FFR.
WASHINGTON (AP) - Former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani, a moderate Republican best known for his stewardship of the city after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, has taken the first step in a 2008 presidential bid, GOP officials said Monday.
Good good
The former mayor is a moderate who supports gun control, same-sex civil unions, embryonic stem-cell research and abortion rights - stands that would put him at odds with the majority of the GOP conservative base.
That could work for him, but...
Giuliani eyed a run for the U.S. Senate in 2000, but ended that bid while battling prostate cancer and a made-for-tabloids divorce from television star Donna Hanover. The messy divorce and his relationship with Judith Nathan also made his campaign against Hillary Rodham Clinton all the more difficult.
Plus he would be running against Mr. Toad (McCain).
I believe most Americans are in the middle, are generally socially progressive/moderate (or maybe even a bit liberal), and look for people who are for smaller government, less governmental involvement/regulation, and less tax & spend.
The republicans have moved away from this base and have tried to have the far right/christian fundies support them -- losing out on fiscal conservatism, and favoring more moral legislation of the christian fundy type. This obviously backfired for them.
I'd love to see Rudy run as an independent against someone far right in the republican party and someone far left in the dem party (like hillary). In fact, were he to do so, he'd get a whole lot of votes and would probably carry some states.
If that happened, you might not see a clear winner and have all the candidates with less than the majority of the votes.
Then the House of Reps decide the President. Which, but for the fact that the two party system is as prevalent as it is, could mean the advent of a 3+ party system and even the selection of a moderate candidate who believes in less government, less taxation, less spending, and puts the emphasis of the federal government where it should be -- foreign policy, defense, imigration issues, and handling those things which the states clearly can't handle by themselves, which, IMO, would be good for the American people.
WASHINGTON (AP) - Former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani, a moderate Republican best known for his stewardship of the city after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, has taken the first step in a 2008 presidential bid, GOP officials said Monday.
Good good
The former mayor is a moderate who supports gun control, same-sex civil unions, embryonic stem-cell research and abortion rights - stands that would put him at odds with the majority of the GOP conservative base.
That could work for him, but...
Giuliani eyed a run for the U.S. Senate in 2000, but ended that bid while battling prostate cancer and a made-for-tabloids divorce from television star Donna Hanover. The messy divorce and his relationship with Judith Nathan also made his campaign against Hillary Rodham Clinton all the more difficult.
Plus he would be running against Mr. Toad (McCain).
I believe most Americans are in the middle, are generally socially progressive/moderate (or maybe even a bit liberal), and look for people who are for smaller government, less governmental involvement/regulation, and less tax & spend.
The republicans have moved away from this base and have tried to have the far right/christian fundies support them -- losing out on fiscal conservatism, and favoring more moral legislation of the christian fundy type. This obviously backfired for them.
I'd love to see Rudy run as an independent against someone far right in the republican party and someone far left in the dem party (like hillary). In fact, were he to do so, he'd get a whole lot of votes and would probably carry some states.
If that happened, you might not see a clear winner and have all the candidates with less than the majority of the votes.
Then the House of Reps decide the President. Which, but for the fact that the two party system is as prevalent as it is, could mean the advent of a 3+ party system and even the selection of a moderate candidate who believes in less government, less taxation, less spending, and puts the emphasis of the federal government where it should be -- foreign policy, defense, imigration issues, and handling those things which the states clearly can't handle by themselves, which, IMO, would be good for the American people.
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