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  • Svaz
    quite clever
    • Oct 2008
    • 792

    #31
    Re: why are chokers so hot?

    Good choker for when you’re trying to win a collision case at the dmv

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    • the sun fan
      FFR Player
      • Mar 2017
      • 495

      #32
      Re: why are chokers so hot?

      Originally posted by Svaz
      Good choker for when you’re trying to win a collision case at the dmv
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      Last edited by the sun fan; 05-24-2019, 11:13 AM.
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      • melonpapes
        FFR Player
        • Mar 2014
        • 343

        #33
        Re: why are chokers so hot?

        because choke me daddy owoo

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        • rayword45
          Local Teenage Wastebasket
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Feb 2007
          • 3212

          #34
          Re: why are chokers so hot?

          Originally posted by Aquellex
          Originally posted by flashflash account
          I thought this was a queenashy thread
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          Last edited by rayword45; 05-24-2019, 12:20 PM.
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          • devonin
            Very Grave Indeed
            Event Staff
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Apr 2004
            • 10120

            #35
            Re: why are chokers so hot?

            Because our society has a long-standing tradition of taking fashions that originated with trans women, having them be co-opted by cis women, and then cis men feel like they can acknowledge that it's attractive now that they can say it while still maintaining their transphobia.

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            • flashflash account
              FFR Player
              • Apr 2017
              • 567

              #36
              Re: why are chokers so hot?

              Originally posted by devonin
              Because our society has a long-standing tradition of taking fashions that originated with trans women, having them be co-opted by cis women, and then cis men feel like they can acknowledge that it's attractive now that they can say it while still maintaining their transphobia.
              Thinking this was a queenashy thread wasn't too far off then
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              i was pretty close to letting this slide tbh, but honestly your utter lack of understanding of the situation irritates me more than anything else at this point
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              seriously everything i wrote went way over your head if your reading comprehension is so far below third grade level while people may care about your opinion you should refrain from giving it because it's worthless

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              • DaBackpack
                ~ お ま ん こ ~
                • Mar 2014
                • 918

                #37
                Re: why are chokers so hot?

                Originally posted by devonin
                Because our society has a long-standing tradition of taking fashions that originated with trans women, having them be co-opted by cis women, and then cis men feel like they can acknowledge that it's attractive now that they can say it while still maintaining their transphobia.
                I think there is some truth to this but chokers have been a fashion accessory used by cisgender women for a long time. I can't speak as to the recent cultural perceptions of chokers but I think there is more nuance and history beyond that of modern appropriation.


                Originally posted by Moogy
                no one cares
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                that's kind of a sad statistic

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                • devonin
                  Very Grave Indeed
                  Event Staff
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 10120

                  #38
                  Re: why are chokers so hot?

                  I'm sure. Just like I'm sure there are people today who pop the collar of their shirt or coat solely to keep the rain or wind off their neck.

                  I also have a cousin who has "YOLO" tattooed onto his right bicep because "The first time he ever heard the phrase, and understood it to mean 'you only live once' he was inspired because that is how he has always lived his life, and he claims to have literally never had any idea at all of the general meme use of the phrase"
                  Last edited by devonin; 05-24-2019, 01:56 PM.

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                  • DaBackpack
                    ~ お ま ん こ ~
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 918

                    #39
                    Re: why are chokers so hot?

                    Originally posted by devonin
                    Because our society has a long-standing tradition of taking fashions that originated with trans women, having them be co-opted by cis women, and then cis men feel like they can acknowledge that it's attractive now that they can say it while still maintaining their transphobia.
                    Also, I think this stated trend is Eurocentric, whereas Asian countries (especially Japan) have their own histories with neckwear ---- even if some of them borrow from the West via cultural diffusion.

                    EDIT: Actually, North Africa is a good example too.
                    Last edited by DaBackpack; 05-24-2019, 01:59 PM.


                    Originally posted by Moogy
                    no one cares
                    Originally posted by TWG Dan Hedgehog
                    there are 743 matches for hedgehog suicide on deviantart
                    that's kind of a sad statistic

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                    • DaBackpack
                      ~ お ま ん こ ~
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 918

                      #40
                      Re: why are chokers so hot?

                      Originally posted by devonin
                      I'm sure. Just like I'm sure there are people today who pop the collar of their shirt or coat solely to keep the rain or wind off their neck.

                      I also have a cousin who has "YOLO" tattooed onto his right bicep because "The first time he ever heard the phrase, and understood it to mean 'you only live once' he was inspired because that is how he has always lived his life, and he claims to have literally never had any idea at all of the general meme use of the phrase"
                      I just think it's hard to justify trans appropriation as a sole (or even leading) reason for the prominence of chokers.

                      Not that it isn't a thing, but I'm pretty sure there's more to it --- I would be interested in an anthropological explanation, for example

                      EDIT: Googling "choker anthropology" gives me the fucking store, lol

                      DOUBLE EDIT: https://www.onetribeapparel.com/blog...eaning-chokers labels a few symbolic values of chokers (ignoring the predictable corporate trans-exclusionism)
                      Last edited by DaBackpack; 05-24-2019, 02:08 PM.


                      Originally posted by Moogy
                      no one cares
                      Originally posted by TWG Dan Hedgehog
                      there are 743 matches for hedgehog suicide on deviantart
                      that's kind of a sad statistic

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                      • Dinglesberry
                        longing
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 2679

                        #41
                        Re: why are chokers so hot?

                        and here i was thinking choker meant some bdsm thing lol

                        and also, for at least every male who thinks a female in a choker is hot, theres also prrobably at least a female who thinks wearing a choker is hot, so idk let someone do as they want.

                        this would probably be a more "critical thinking" thread if it was about fetishes in general or something, if its normal/why people sexualize things that normally aren't sexualized etc, instead its just "heh why they so secksy owo"
                        Last edited by Dinglesberry; 05-24-2019, 02:09 PM.

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                        • flashflash account
                          FFR Player
                          • Apr 2017
                          • 567

                          #42
                          Re: why are chokers so hot?

                          My thread about mina got kicked out of critical thinking this doesn't deserve it either
                          aka mikey

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                          Originally posted by FreezinIce
                          FFA playing 4D chess in Gemity while us mortals are stuck on this gay earth

                          Originally posted by QueenAshy
                          I’ve demonstrated self-awareness
                          Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                          i was pretty close to letting this slide tbh, but honestly your utter lack of understanding of the situation irritates me more than anything else at this point
                          Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                          seriously everything i wrote went way over your head if your reading comprehension is so far below third grade level while people may care about your opinion you should refrain from giving it because it's worthless

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                          • T-Force
                            Your world ends with you
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 4753

                            #43
                            Re: why are chokers so hot?

                            Originally posted by Chubisque
                            Y'all can have the choker half, I'm too busy admiring the other parts. Especially the chest text. 8)
                            Life is simply unfair... Don't you think?

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                            • XelNya
                              [Kaho]
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 3368

                              #44
                              Re: why are chokers so hot?

                              Originally posted by Dinglesberry
                              and here i was thinking choker meant some bdsm thing lol

                              and also, for at least every male who thinks a female in a choker is hot, theres also prrobably at least a female who thinks wearing a choker is hot, so idk let someone do as they want.

                              this would probably be a more "critical thinking" thread if it was about fetishes in general or something, if its normal/why people sexualize things that normally aren't sexualized etc, instead its just "heh why they so secksy owo"
                              Look at some of the people we have as mods and this not being left in ct despite if every post was as intricate as hakus would not surprise me even slightly.

                              That said i'd like to chime in it's more about how it appears. The one on the lady in the star wars shirt is fucking awful. But slap it on someone in mostly say black clothing with some white accent and it'd be great possibly.

                              But, that's likely just me. That jersey just, its there to be there than anything else.

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                              • Hakulyte
                                the Haku
                                • Jul 2005
                                • 4578

                                #45
                                Re: why are chokers so hot?

                                Originally posted by XelNya
                                Look at some of the people we have as mods and this not being left in ct despite if every post was as intricate as hakus would not surprise me even slightly.
                                Alright, here's the compromise. If there's enough interest to move this thread back into CT territory, I'd be more than happy to recommend that from moving back.

                                Part of me just believe this isn't serious, but feel free to correct me.
                                Last edited by Hakulyte; 05-24-2019, 09:46 PM.

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