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  • Mahou
    魔法少女
    • Jan 2006
    • 2153

    #46
    Re: VISA/Mastercard blocks payment to Horowitz Center because of SPLC

    Originally posted by Charu
    Got blocked by VISA/Mastercard probably.
    LOL
    Originally posted by lofty rhino
    one does not simply hate everyone that plays stepmania
    AND watch anime.

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    • Funnygurl555
      T-Force's Rival
      • Dec 2010
      • 1865

      #47
      Re: VISA/Mastercard blocks payment to Horowitz Center because of SPLC

      never change charu
      Originally posted by MixMasterLar
      is funny eaman?
      Can you like not use those stupid names right now? Took me long enough to get these screen names straight in my head
      Originally posted by the sun fan
      GET DUNKED FUNNY
      (eaman is her name irl, friend)

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      • Charu
        Snivy! Dohoho!
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Mar 2006
        • 6206

        #48
        Re: VISA/Mastercard blocks payment to Horowitz Center because of SPLC

        Originally posted by Mahou
        LOL
        Originally posted by Funnygurl555
        never change charu
        Thanks


        Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
        Charu the red-nosed Snivy
        Had a very shiny nose
        And if you ever saw it
        You could even say it glows

        All of the other Snivies
        Used to laugh and call him names
        They never let poor Charu
        Join in any Snivy games

        (Click the arrow to see the rest)


        Originally posted by Vendetta21
        All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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        • DaBackpack
          ~ お ま ん こ ~
          • Mar 2014
          • 918

          #49
          Re: VISA/Mastercard blocks payment to Horowitz Center because of SPLC

          Originally posted by Charu
          Jesus

          If I wanted to read someone belittling everyone on the site for being "wrong" about something, then I'd just go to GameFAQs or something...
          ignore him, he's just baiting


          Originally posted by Moogy
          no one cares
          Originally posted by TWG Dan Hedgehog
          there are 743 matches for hedgehog suicide on deviantart
          that's kind of a sad statistic

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          • Litodude
            FFR Player
            • Feb 2006
            • 4548

            #50
            Re: VISA/Mastercard blocks payment to Horowitz Center because of SPLC

            Originally posted by Arch0wl
            anything i write
            Originally posted by t-rogdor
            i finally got a weed hookup again and i texted the dude asking where to meet him tomorrow and the dude just said "out west"

            dude
            out west?
            the fuck kinda location is west?
            am i buying weed off a gotdamn pirate


            Originally posted by lurker
            remind everyone that i am an outed racist neo-nazi who no one in their right mind should ever interact with in any way whatsoever

            http://imgur.com/a/Ww9g3

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            • choof
              Banned
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Nov 2013
              • 8563

              #51
              Re: VISA/Mastercard blocks payment to Horowitz Center because of SPLC

              Originally posted by komochii
              If it helps contexualize my responses my background is dealing with pompous assholes
              Pot Kettle [Black ANOTHER]

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              • who_cares973
                FFR Player
                • Aug 2006
                • 15407

                #52
                Re: VISA/Mastercard blocks payment to Horowitz Center because of SPLC

                Originally posted by choof
                Pot Kettle [Black ANOTHER]
                God damn it

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                • Arch0wl
                  Banned
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 6344

                  #53
                  Re: VISA/Mastercard blocks payment to Horowitz Center because of SPLC

                  there's some good news: VISA denied involvement, and it appears to not be an explicit decision by VISA. this is in contrast to PayPal's recent decisions, where the company did admit involvement in blocking certain accounts for speech-related reasons. so if it was a decision at all, it's due to some kind of automated fraud detection a la report abuse.

                  this rules out the worst case scenario, which was far more worrisome. I was hoping this was the case, because Stormfront would have been first on the chopping block ahead of the Horowitz center. I still can't believe some of you are conceptually okay with the worst-case outcome. you have warped priorities if you think that would not be disastrous.
                  Last edited by Arch0wl; 08-24-2018, 03:03 PM.

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                  • choof
                    Banned
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 8563

                    #54
                    Re: VISA/Mastercard blocks payment to Horowitz Center because of SPLC

                    the worst-case scenario would have been a hate group not receiving money which is actually a good thing imo

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                    • Arch0wl
                      Banned
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 6344

                      #55
                      Re: VISA/Mastercard blocks payment to Horowitz Center because of SPLC

                      no, the "hate group" label is useless, vague, and irrelevant. the term "hate" is meaningless, and more ideological than substantial.

                      the splc's definition in particular has not been meaningful in any way. https://www.law.com/americanlawyer/2...20180724171554

                      what a given group is able to do, and therefore what sets the standard for what is posssible and what people are okay with -- aka, societal and legal precedents -- is far more important than whether any given group receives money or not.
                      Last edited by Arch0wl; 08-24-2018, 03:16 PM.

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                      • iCeCuBEz v2
                        XFD
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 4924

                        #56
                        Re: VISA/Mastercard blocks payment to Horowitz Center because of SPLC

                        Originally posted by choof
                        Pot Kettle [Black ANOTHER]

                        LOL best thing posted in this thread
                        I bring my math homework to church. It helps me find a higher power.

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                        • shrewms
                          Banned
                          • Aug 2018
                          • 15

                          #57
                          Re: VISA/Mastercard blocks payment to Horowitz Center because of SPLC

                          my questions are

                          what did DHFC do to deserve this flak?
                          this spreading of spiteful and biased information?

                          even if Horowitz himself has different political views from whoever is starting this,
                          it should have nothing to do with the business he runs. (by this, i mean the ability to keep said business up and running shouldn't be affected)

                          the flow of money is all these credit card companies care about anyway,
                          why would they give two shits without a sound reason?
                          otherwise anybody can go around pointing fingers at whoever and saying they did stuff and everybody will believe them.

                          this isn't the 1700's

                          one more question.
                          who's to say the organization spreading this information isn't jumping the gun or making a mistake?
                          biased media can be quite the spectacle when it turns out the people calling others out is wrong.
                          Last edited by shrewms; 08-24-2018, 09:33 PM.

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                          • gold stinger
                            Signature Extraordinare~~
                            Event Staff
                            Game Manager
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            FFR Music Producer
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 6428

                            #58
                            Re: VISA/Mastercard blocks payment to Horowitz Center because of SPLC

                            Originally posted by Arch0wl
                            I still can't believe some of you are conceptually okay with the worst-case outcome. you have warped priorities if you think that would not be disastrous.
                            I remember having a passing conversation with Sky Kitten once while at Anime North where she went to a major grocery chain in Ontario here, and they could take VISA but not MasterCard, or vice versa, I forget which one it was exactly. I pressed about whether or not like the service was just temporarily down but no, they just didn't accept it.

                            Regardless, the point stands. Life will find a way.
                            Originally posted by YoshL
                            butts.


                            - Tosh 2014






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                            • V-Ormix
                              Banned
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 4677

                              #59
                              Re: VISA/Mastercard blocks payment to Horowitz Center because of SPLC

                              So people are saying, who cares, if people hate a hate group... their a hate group

                              edit: they deserve to be hated, even though certain people hate that the people are hating them o_o and this further implicates universal hatred D:then everyone will love to hate :3
                              Last edited by V-Ormix; 08-25-2018, 10:24 AM.

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                              • melonpapes
                                FFR Player
                                • Mar 2014
                                • 343

                                #60
                                Re: VISA/Mastercard blocks payment to Horowitz Center because of SPLC

                                Originally posted by Tps222
                                Visa and Mastercard are private companies who can decide to conduct or not conduct business with whomever they decide, end of story.
                                I have a feeling posts like this are not gonna age well. now even your payment processors/credit card handlers are getting their greasy hands in the virtue signalling ring? just move money and shut the fuck up jesus christ.

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