fruit math

[MinaciousGrace]

Re: fruit math

although i agree that it echoes the sentiment of the much more elegantly phrased

"moot frath"

[ilikexd]

Re: fruit math

....

not fair that you limited your answer to only negative to positive infinity then

[Frank Munoz]

Re: fruit math

not fair that you limited your answer to only negative to positive infinity then

infinity antimatter to infinity matter???

[Frank Munoz]

Re: fruit math

continuing this...

solving for 0
in the new picture

solve for A
A+A+A=30
3A=30
A=10

Solve for 0
a+B+B=18
a+2B-18=0

B-C=1
B-C-1=0

add
a+2B-18=0
to
B-C-1=0

a+3B-19=0

now solve for a
a+3B-19=0
a+3B=19
a=19-3B

then solve for B in the second equation
a+B+B=18
19-3B+B+B=18
19-3B+2B=18
19-B=18
-B=-1
B=1

GREAT, got B
now solve for a in the second equation
a+B+B=18
a+1+1=18
a+2=18
a=16

now back to the third equation
solve for C
B-C=1
1-C=1
-C=0
C=0

now to the last one which is tricky...
lets solve for 10
c+A+b=??
c+10+b=??
c+10=??-b
10=??-b-c
and as we know
10=A
so
A=??-b-c


now lets recap...
A=10 and 10=??-b-c
B=1
C=0
a=16
...

i gotta do my english hw now so i'll continue this ina bit

now we just need to find
b
c and ??

the thing is, there's no way to connect b, c, or ?? to the other equations except for A, but A does not appear in anything except the first and last equations; this is where the main problem arises.
It nearly makes the second and third equations
completely...
ahem...
fruitless

since 10=??-b-c
and c+A+b=??
substituting A with it's new solution (??-b-c) in the last equation results in ??=??

c+A+b=??
c+??-b-c+b=??
??=??

since both sides are equal, there are -infinitely many- solutions. As stated previously in my past posts.

i'll look for a loophole in this later, gonna play vidyea games

[aperson]

Re: fruit math

okay but what's the dimension of the nullspace

[danceflashrevo]

Re: fruit math

So pi, 42, a matrix, and an expression that when graphed looks like your mom's chubby ass face are all correct answers.

let us fall down the rabbit hole god dammit

[YoshL]

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did someone say rabbit

[danceflashrevo]

Re: fruit math

bun

[gold stinger]

Re: fruit math

It's time to solve for apple

First, we need to know what kind of apple we're dealing with.

What we have here, is a completely red apple, with a more or less solid green leaf. This means that the apple in question is an apple that grows into the red variety when ripe and does not stray from the red variety. There are a couple of apples out there that follow this routine, but looking at the most popular variety of apples, it's most likely either a Pink Crisp apple, Fuji apple, or Cameo apple, as the apple in the image is not as slender as Red Delicious apples are made out to be. However, a lot of people use Red Delicious apples as a base line image for interpreting the stock image of an apple, or the perfect apple (as attributed in the image of the equation we're attempting to solve).



Braeburn, Jazz, Cox, and Royal Gala apples tend to have slight pigment discolorations to show ripeness so they are most likely excluded from this scenario.

So right now, we have the most photogenic apple, the Fuji, the most commonly seen apple, Red Delicious, the most 'average' apple, the Cameo, and that guy, the Pink Crisp.

according to this link:


We are looking for a tree species of apple that most commonly suits the leaf that is shown in the original apple image. Using that, we can cross reference our suitable apples, and the kind of leaf that the tree comes with to make a closer interpretation to what exact species of 'red apple' that is being used for the equation. For this case, we're probably looking for either an ovate leaf, or an elliptical leaf since that is the one that is most likely used for the initial apple stock image when constructing the equation.

here's an image of a cameo apple tree:

an image of a red delicious apple tree:

Fuji:

Pink Crisp:

given these scenarios, we can probably rule out cameo apple completely, as the leaves from a cameo apple tree tend to lean towards a lanceolate style of leaf. There are some ovate leaves in there, but also codate, and oblong. We're looking for an apple where the prime majority can be identified as either ovate or elliptical.

Considering cameo apples, red delicious actually may be our best bet here, since the red delicious apple tree has a hampering towards elliptical style of leaves.

Fuji apple's main leaf is the cordate leaf in this image. So again, potential candidate is pointing towards the red delicious apple being the type of apple in the stock image, but hold onto your hats because:

Pink Crisp apples have elliptical leaves on their trees.

So who's the real winner here? Well, make up your own mind. Remember how I said Red Delicious apples are the most commonly referred to apple for images on the internet considering apples? Well, if you create that assumption, then the most likely apple in this case is a perfect, lump, Red Delicious apple, with an elliptical leaf attached to the stem.

So now we have a real world comparison:
= Red Delicious apple with elliptical leaf

figure it out from there, math freaks.

tl;dr I am 99% sure that the apple used in the equation is a Red Delicious breed of apple, with an elliptical leaf. Go nuts.

I can take it one step further and assume the apple is 170 grams (100 calories/perfect apple), but again, that's assumption.

[danceflashrevo]

Re: fruit math

It's time to solve for apple

First, we need to know what kind of apple we're dealing with.

What we have here, is a completely red apple, with a more or less solid green leaf. This means that the apple in question is an apple that grows into the red variety when ripe and does not stray from the red variety. There are a couple of apples out there that follow this routine, but looking at the most popular variety of apples, it's most likely either a Pink Crisp apple, Fuji apple, or Cameo apple, as the apple in the image is not as slender as Red Delicious apples are made out to be. However, a lot of people use Red Delicious apples as a base line image for interpreting the stock image of an apple, or the perfect apple (as attributed in the image of the equation we're attempting to solve).



Braeburn, Jazz, Cox, and Royal Gala apples tend to have slight pigment discolorations to show ripeness so they are most likely excluded from this scenario.

So right now, we have the most photogenic apple, the Fuji, the most commonly seen apple, Red Delicious, the most 'average' apple, the Cameo, and that guy, the Pink Crisp.

according to this link:


We are looking for a tree species of apple that most commonly suits the leaf that is shown in the original apple image. Using that, we can cross reference our suitable apples, and the kind of leaf that the tree comes with to make a closer interpretation to what exact species of 'red apple' that is being used for the equation. For this case, we're probably looking for either an ovate leaf, or an elliptical leaf since that is the one that is most likely used for the initial apple stock image when constructing the equation.

here's an image of a cameo apple tree:

an image of a red delicious apple tree:

Fuji:

Pink Crisp:

given these scenarios, we can probably rule out cameo apple completely, as the leaves from a cameo apple tree tend to lean towards a lanceolate style of leaf. There are some ovate leaves in there, but also codate, and oblong. We're looking for an apple where the prime majority can be identified as either ovate or elliptical.

Considering cameo apples, red delicious actually may be our best bet here, since the red delicious apple tree has a hampering towards elliptical style of leaves.

Fuji apple's main leaf is the cordate leaf in this image. So again, potential candidate is pointing towards the red delicious apple being the type of apple in the stock image, but hold onto your hats because:

Pink Crisp apples have elliptical leaves on their trees.

So who's the real winner here? Well, make up your own mind. Remember how I said Red Delicious apples are the most commonly referred to apple for images on the internet considering apples? Well, if you create that assumption, then the most likely apple in this case is a perfect, lump, Red Delicious apple, with an elliptical leaf attached to the stem.

So now we have a real world comparison:
= Red Delicious apple with elliptical leaf

figure it out from there, math freaks.

tl;dr I am 99% sure that the apple used in the equation is a Red Delicious breed of apple, with an elliptical leaf. Go nuts.

I can take it one step further and assume the apple is 170 grams (100 calories/perfect apple), but again, that's assumption.

i admire your contributions; does someone have a working copy of photoshop so that we may analyze the pixel definitions of the apple so we can maybe solve for leaf?

[leonid]

Re: fruit math

I give up what is the answer again

[drizzleRomanceGirl]

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lol i love the analysis used to determine what type of apple and leaf is used in the equations

[gold stinger]

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i admire your contributions; does someone have a working copy of photoshop so that we may analyze the pixel definitions of the apple so we can maybe solve for leaf?

forget photoshop someone needs blender/unity so we can replicate the apple in 3d and then calculate the volume of the apple & create a realistic scenario of how much space the leaf takes up, based on thickness of apple, and determined size of leaf.

If someone creates a perfect 3D rendition of the stock image, you can calculate volume of the apple, and use the real world conclusion of how much that red delicious apple weighs, and then subtract the weight of the leaf.

create a fraction using the apple's weight without leaf on top, apple's weight with leaf on bottom, and apply it to the value of 10.

[botchi246]

Re: fruit math

forget photoshop someone needs blender/unity so we can replicate the apple in 3d and then calculate the volume of the apple & create a realistic scenario of how much space the leaf takes up, based on thickness of apple, and determined size of leaf.

If someone creates a perfect 3D rendition of the stock image, you can calculate volume of the apple, and use the real world conclusion of how much that red delicious apple weighs, and then subtract the weight of the leaf.

create a fraction using the apple's weight without leaf on top, apple's weight with leaf on bottom, and apply it to the value of 10.

oh my gosh, this is getting out of hand

[Soundwave-]

Re: fruit math

The real problem here is that finding apple proportions requires making unjustified assumptions about field of view, depth, etc.