So apparently people are mad that Stepmania was on AGDQ

[ShadowDueler97]

Re: So apparently people are mad that Stepmania was on AGDQ

Oh no, people are getting upset for stupid reasons, this is sooo unusual!!

[Mahou]

Re: So apparently people are mad that Stepmania was on AGDQ

Can this thread be locked? This shit is getting old.

[choof]

Re: So apparently people are mad that Stepmania was on AGDQ

gr9 thread

[GammaBlaster]

Re: So apparently people are mad that Stepmania was on AGDQ

twelve

[Vendetta21]

Re: So apparently people are mad that Stepmania was on AGDQ

Stepmania.com Bought Out Awesome Games Done Quick As Well As Twitch, With Their Vast Riches

Heh I knew it

[choof]

Re: So apparently people are mad that Stepmania was on AGDQ

It doesn't help that many members of the IIDX community are known to make incredibly distasteful posts on forums. This is especially prevalent when you ask a very opinion-oriented question...many are ready to assert their views as facts.

huehue

[SKG_Scintill]

Re: So apparently people are mad that Stepmania was on AGDQ

Beaten to the punch

[ga##]

Re: So apparently people are mad that Stepmania was on AGDQ

give iidx an awful gdq time slot problem solved

[bmah]

Re: So apparently people are mad that Stepmania was on AGDQ

An interesting observation I have is that Stian's incredibly refined skills of SM is something easily appreciated amongst the general public but not so easily appreciated for someone more well-versed in rhythm games (aside from SM). People are comparing games that may have a harder learning curve, and that masks their ability to appreciate an SM player of an extremely high skill level. You'd think that the general public would not be able to appreciate it due to their lack of context, but in fact it's other rhythm gamers who can't muster that appreciation. If we're conparing a casual SM player to a casual IIDX player, I may say that the latter is more impressive, but that is not the case here. Staian's skill simply cannot be discounted like that.

Tl;dr just because one rhythm game may be more difficult to learn and master does not make another rhythm game less impressive particularly for a player of its highest caliber.

[Reincarnate]

Re: So apparently people are mad that Stepmania was on AGDQ

This

Also I'd love to see more rhythm games featured in AGDQ

Exactly how I feel as well. No reason why a variety of rhythm games can't be showcased.

[DossarLX ODI]

Re: So apparently people are mad that Stepmania was on AGDQ

I have a high degree of confidence that if there weren't 200k+ viewers then other communities wouldn't have had that kind of reaction.

[Spenner]

Re: So apparently people are mad that Stepmania was on AGDQ

Maybe next year there will be a rhythm gaming block. That would be sickness. Make everyone happy and exhibit all sorts of these, if you have people willing to get out of their seats and volunteer their time to do so.

Seriously, from NORWAY.

He deserved this so much.

[rushyrulz]

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My general experience with rhythm games is that when people WATCH rhythm games being played, they soon want to PLAY rhythm games. It's a very approachable genre since there really isn't much you need to learn to get started other than what buttons do I need to hit when this particular light flashes? Games commonly showcased in speedruns do not have the same effect since you see runners doing one mind-blowing glitch or trick after the other and it makes the game seem unapproachably difficult to play.

I kind of wish that Stian had played some easier songs to begin with because it would serve several purposes:
A) It would cut the nervousness since a crowd of unsuspecting viewers with little to no rhythm gaming experience would be blown away by just about anything D4 or higher, leading to the same type of overwhelming crowd hype that happened during the showcase
B) It would be alright for a warmup
C) It would have shown viewers that there is more to SM than D7/D8 files and perhaps plant the seed in their minds that they might be capable of playing the game too.
D) It lets the couch explain a lot of underlying concepts before anything crazy happens and without the fear of breaking Stian's concentration during intense files (and I thought the couch did a great job of doing this during the first few charts anyway).
E) It makes the true hard stuff look even more impressive in comparison.

[rCaliberGX]

Re: So apparently people are mad that Stepmania was on AGDQ

My general experience with rhythm games is that when people WATCH rhythm games being played, they soon want to PLAY rhythm games. It's a very approachable genre since there really isn't much you need to learn to get started other than what buttons do I need to hit when this particular light flashes? Games commonly showcased in speedruns do not have the same effect since you see runners doing one mind-blowing glitch or trick after the other and it makes the game seem unapproachably difficult to play.

I kind of wish that Stian had played some easier songs to begin with because it would serve several purposes:
A) It would cut the nervousness since a crowd of unsuspecting viewers with little to no rhythm gaming experience would be blown away by just about anything D4 or higher, leading to the same type of overwhelming crowd hype that happened during the showcase
B) It would be alright for a warmup
C) It would have shown viewers that there is more to SM than D7/D8 files and perhaps plant the seed in their minds that they might be capable of playing the game too.
D) It lets the couch explain a lot of underlying concepts before anything crazy happens and without the fear of breaking Stian's concentration during intense files (and I thought the couch did a great job of doing this during the first few charts anyway).
E) It makes the true hard stuff look even more impressive in comparison.

25 minutes is a lot less time than you think in the context of riddim gaems, I'm sure the song list would be much more varied if there was a bigger time slot

[rushyrulz]

Re: So apparently people are mad that Stepmania was on AGDQ

25 minutes is a lot less time than you think in the context of riddim gaems, I'm sure the song list would be much more varied if there was a bigger time slot

25 minutes is plenty of time. A couple of easier songs would take at most 5-6 minutes.