the ecig struggle

[cedolad]

Re: the ecig struggle

How is smoking an ecig worse than a normal cigarette? At least you're not dumping as many harmful carcinogens into your body. At least with ecigs you can choose how much nicotine concentrate you want. With most liquids now-a-days weaning off is a lot easier since the percentages varies by 0.3%.

And I will not stop smoking Pluto and gaze upon it.

[Cavernio]

Re: the ecig struggle

Some people like that kind of thing. The best you can do is worry about your own body and let people do what they want with theirs.

of course. I'd just never thought or heard about the fact that ecigs have fumes and crap in them. We're all probably getting more shit in our bodies from our electronics than what someone gets in an ecig.

[rushyrulz]

Re: the ecig struggle

You need to do some serious introspection if you're against ecigs.

[Cavernio]

Re: the ecig struggle

Nicotine would probably help me a ton

[Arntonach]

Re: the ecig struggle

Because the douchebags we've had to kick out of the non-smoking section of the casino thought that e-cigarettes didn't count. Then they bragged that they could smoke that in supermarkets, gas stations and hospitals but not the casino. I know it's supposed to be a healthy alternative, but it still feels like your smoking and a lot of the time the smell's annoying as fuck anyways.

[iCeCuBEz v2]

Re: the ecig struggle

u are obviously overly butthurt about something that isnt a big deal

i smoke it outside most of the time because i respect the fact it is annoying to some people. and i use them because they are so much better tasting and insanely cheaper.

and i didnt do it to wean off cigs

[rushyrulz]

Re: the ecig struggle

Because the douchebags we've had to kick out of the non-smoking section of the casino thought that e-cigarettes didn't count. Then they bragged that they could smoke that in supermarkets, gas stations and hospitals but not the casino. I know it's supposed to be a healthy alternative, but it still feels like your smoking and a lot of the time the smell's annoying as fuck anyways.

Those "douchebags" are in 100% correspondence with the law.

Smoking bans (or smoke-free laws) are public policies, including criminal laws and occupational safety and health regulations, 
which prohibit tobacco smoking in workplaces and other public spaces. Legislation may also define smoking as more generally being
the carrying or possessing of any lit tobacco product.

e-cigarettes are not tobacco products (yet) and there's nothing your little non-smoking section can lawfully do about it unless they have some wacky clause in company policy. While the FDA is working on regulating e-cigarettes as tobacco products, as of right now.. they're not considered tobacco products.

I don't necessarily agree that e-cigarettes should be regulated as tobacco products, however, since there's absolutely no tobacco in the vapor solutions, but the FDA has tried and failed in previous attempts to knock down e-cigs as drug-delivery devices.

[Arntonach]

Re: the ecig struggle

We do have that policy, cause all of the higher ups and customers are over 60 and think vape pens are obama's mind controlling devices for the taliban. :V

[dragon890x]

Re: the ecig struggle

the FDA has tried and failed in previous attempts to knock down e-cigs as drug-delivery devices.

They are 'drug delivery devices'.

Regulations are soon kicking in that will prohibit the use of such devices from being sold to or used by minors.

However, vapor devices do not contain tobacco. It's not a tobacco product. Most people get annoyed by it because they are overly sensitive to smoking, for whatever reason they have.

Nicotine is a psychoactive drug, and very well should be regulated.



Getting back on topic, clean your electronic cigarette. The burnt taste is not coming from 'manufacturing and machining residues'. It's coming from the burnt sugars that accumulate within the device. There are too many variables to take in account for; sugar amount within the liquid, voltage, duration of the ignition button being pressed, etc.

I recommend that you stock up on parts and exchange them as you need to. Atomizers should not last longer than a week if you vape regularly. If you find yourself vaping often, try switching to a cartomizer setup. Note that you will still need to replace parts to keep the taste of your liquid fresh.

I recommend using this:

http://www.smoke-evolution.com/iTaste-MVP2-p/se-ino-mvp2.htm

[Mollocephalus]

Re: the ecig struggle

Do you ******s still smoke in 2014 you guys should stab yourselves in the stomach and bleed to death

[korny]

Re: the ecig struggle

Vaporize mollo, vaporize

[Mollocephalus]

Re: the ecig struggle

It's essentially the same thing. It's taking a really awful and disgusting social habit which should have died decades ago and making it look "cooler" and "cleaner". That should not happen. Smokers and drug users in general pretty much need to be put under social pressure, making it clear that what they do is wrong.

[Izzy]

Re: the ecig struggle

That is a very extremist view you have there. Also I doubt most people use drugs and smoke because they want to be cooler.

[cedolad]

Re: the ecig struggle

So you find it socially unacceptable for us to smoke, while we find it socially unacceptable for you to be as degrading as you are.

I understand why you may chose not to smoke, but to say that its plain wrong is really disrespectful.

[cedolad]

Re: the ecig struggle

That is a very extremist view you have there. Also I doubt most people use drugs and smoke because they want to be cooler.

If I were so concerned about how cool I looked doing drugs or smoking, I would've stayed in High School.