My depersonalization over the last year

[DossarLX ODI]

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Smitty that is incredible to hear. It's about time this shit stops ruining peoples' lives, and you've been handling withdrawal like a boss. I hope you have a good time with those classes too!

[Cavernio]

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Oh WOW! That's amazing really! The system might actually work.

Glad my other guess was totally unfounded...I should delete it.

[qqwref]

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Important update that is the cure for this cancer. As of tonight at midnight all herbal incense at every outlet available for purchase must be removed from the shelves / cases in the state of Virginia. I have been crying for everyone all day, because now they can all be free again. When i called the outeredge/hightyde/hpt/magictime shops, they have all said they no longer are selling it or will ever be selling it.
I do feel a bit sorry for what is to come for the zombies, this shit is still kicking my ass withdrawal wise.

Wow! That's really great to hear, I hope people who are using it can get back on track. Really nice to hear you've been doing better too, I think everyone here is wishing the best for you

[XXXsmittyXXX]

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Good morning. Just ate some breakfast and i loved it and then i started thinking about spice and now i'm shaking and panic-like.. how is this even possible. I'm still really frustrated and i feel anger at even the smallest stimulus it's like one day is great the next is un-realistic. Feeding my mind with videos is seeming to help at the moment so i'll share a few random ones that were worth bookmarking and trust me i have seen a lot of them these are horrible

Yeah i don't like this one.

And i'll post the video description to this next one so you don't have to click outside. Reading it made me feel really fortunate i have only been on it a year and i'm nothing like this, how could his wife even want to stay for as long as she did.

"This is Daniel. Daniel and I have been.. were.. married for 7 years. I've known Daniel for 11 years. I have 2 children with him. Daniel is addicted to synthetic marijuana. Daniel could not go two hours total without having to use more synthetic marijuana. Without the synthetic marijuana Daniel would get very sick and also hostile. Every penny we had went towards his abuse not only hurting himself but also me and my children. Daniel was not always like this. Synthetic Marijuana has unknown chemicals in it that have been told to cause permanent psychosis along with hallucinations and sickness. The label clearly states not for human consumption but today anyone will do anything to get themselves high. Daniel was not strong enough to stop his addiction and in doing such, lost himself, me and his two children along with his life. He now lives with his mother whom enables him, rent free and living paycheck to paycheck. He lost his life and everything that was good in it. This is one example of how he made the choice to loose his family. THIS along with many numerous other occasions along with getting arrested, led me to leave. There were also times far worse than this occasion in which Daniel would go into a psychotic mode and at points not at all make sense, roll his eyes for minutes and speak about things that never happened or were impossible.
I'm putting this on here for anyone that has this problem with someone they love and care about. Sure, synthetic marijuana could be worse. it could be meth.. right? But your wrong. An addiction is an addiction.. Run while you can. I waited for him to get better for more than 4 years.. it only got worse. Even with my counseling, rehabs, jail, hiding money.. Just.. run. Save yourself and your children."

[XXXsmittyXXX]

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Good morning. I'm feeling at an all time low right now and it's time for a last resort. Spenner i am going to go buy kratom at high tyde. They would not give me info over the phone but they include pamphlets so i will post some information on it after i purchase.
You get like 15 grams of 50X kratom for 30 bucks or they have capsules i think i'm going to make tea out of it since the tea form is supposed to really help opiate withdrawal. Guys.. why just why

[DarkManticoreX2]

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Hi Smitty!

Just wanted to let you know I'm proud of you for trying to kick the habit. I don't have personal experience smoking the stuff, but I saw what it does to people.

My sister started smoking spice around the end of high school. My parents and I tried and tried to get her to stop but everytime we pushed to seperate her from the drugs she pushed to seperate from us. Eventually it got so bad she just up and left after having a fight about it with my dad. We thought okay, she'll be back in a day or two, but the days turned into months and the months into years.

She left for almost 2 years and lived on the streets in Kensington Philadelphia, living off thrown out doughnuts from the dumpster of a dunkin doughnuts. She emptied her bank acount, was held up at knife point, traded her car for drugs, and stole from stores generating warrants for her arrest. Eventually she gave up almost everything for the habit.

This is going to sound really cliché, but when she was pretty much at her lowest point (she admits that she thinks she was dying), a preist in Philly found her, talked to her and virtually nursed her back into somewhat decent health. He was able to get our information out of her, we were able to convince her to go into rehab, which she did.

And when she got out of rehab, she went right back to it.

It absolutely crushed my parents.

It took us another year and a half to finally get her to stop. She's 23 now, and basically lost 5 years of her life to synthetic marijuana. But the good news is she finally turned the corner about a year ago. She finally decided that it was time to stop, that the drug was ruining her life.

After seeing it, I'm convinced that the synthetics have such a strong addictive hold over people that nothing anyone else does can get them to stop once they've become addicted. The desire to stop has to come from the addicted person.

Reading through here I know you've already made that decision. It's going to be hard, but you can do it Smitty.

Here's hoping a story helps out on a tough withdrawl day.

[XXXsmittyXXX]

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That's quite a story manti... I am very sorry your family had to go through your sisters addiction i am glad she was able to recover and make the choice to stop. Even though the choice is made, the drug can always grab you back at any time. They banned spice a few days ago and a few shops ALREADY came out with new blends, i just bought one.. but i have not yet smoked. I really wish i didn't buy it i should throw it away.. just knowing they had it there i had to that's how powerful synthetics are.


I just got back from high tyde i don't want to relapse i'm worried i should just use the kratom i have 30 capsules where are you spenner you seemed knowledgeable about extract

The back of the kratom reads as:

All natural Full Spectrum
Kratom Powder & Extract

• Relieves Minor Pain*
• Relieves Minor Stress*
Active ingredients: Mitragyna speciosa

Use with caution, Do NOT use while operating a
motor vehicle or heavy machinery. Do NOT take
if you are pregnant or nursing.

*These claims have not been evaluated by the FDA, and this product is
not intended to treat, prevent, cure, or diagnose any illness.

Not for sale to minors.

The back of Black Diamond reads as:

This product complies with all federal and state legislation. Not for human consumption. For aromatherapy use only. Does not contain any jwh, cp, hu, am, or win compounds.

Contains - A proprietary blend of herbs & spices composed of turnera diffusa, verbascum thapsus, along with natural and synthetic scents. Essential oils and aromatic enhancers. The manufacturer and seller of this product takes no responsibility or liability for the incorrect or misuse of this product.

[Crazyjayde]

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I know Kratom is used to appease opium withdrawl or anti-depressant meds. Acts like morphine but with actual psychological benefits. Might be good to alleviate your case considering there's not much side effects to its usage, especially if it is natural and infused, I'd be sure to look more at the content of those brands.
Only thing I know is one friend tried it once and was displeased by the tase. If that's your case, get some lemon juice or honey in that tea.

Don't know what Spenner says about it, but that's the little I know. I'd still gather input before trying.

[mellonxcollie]

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Wow. I had an idea that spice was bad/grimey, but I had no idea what it actually was or that it was so dangerous.

Best of luck to you Smitty, and to your sister Manti. thanks for sharing your stories and spreading awareness about this because I seriously had no idea the extent of this drug's shittiness

[PriestREA]

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I wrote a huge wall of text about my experiences of knowing someone struggling with addiction. My University has this stupid session timer and it expired at some point. Guess it's my fault for not CTRL+C'ing the post.

I just want you to know that I care and really do hope you can kick spice to the curb and just forget about it. We all care about another community member here and I hope I can help you with any problems you have. You can message me on Facebook if you need some cheering up or advice about something - name is Adam Elmo - and when I finish class or have access to a computer (at home) I can respond to your message. I don't have a phone at the moment so I can't really access it on the fly, but hopefully I can help you whenever you need it. Don't hesitate and don't be a stranger. You can do it Bryan, I have faith and I know you can beat this.

[XXXsmittyXXX]

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Hello there. I am still using the kratom and not smoking spice at all. Everything is a fucking mess here right now. r.i.p high tyde

http://wavy.com/2014/02/13/investigation-ongoing-in-hayes-area/

[d4u7211]

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Dude keep going strong, just read the entire thread and I hope at least the kratom is helping you kick it, like people have been saying and you yourself, brew it in tea and just focus on the normal things man, you're one hell of a fighter and you can totally get through this, you've seriously got some willpower and you will get through this

[XXXsmittyXXX]

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Good morning everyone. Things are still bad here all the spice shops keep getting herbal incense back in regardless of everything that has been going on. I'm so sick of this that i really want to leave, fuck these broken laws. Still using kratom to get through my days.. and my gf has been giving me suboxone to force me to sleep for 10 - 12 hours.
She is going through extreme detox and withdrawals too from spice and heroin gonna keep her here for a long time no more fucking drugs

[ffr212]

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Damn, stay strong man and keep fighting, y'all both can get through all this bullshit together. At least you've got someone close you can relate to and y'all can carry eachother through it. I'm glad she took the Subo route rather than cold turkey, it's much easier too ween from and it's less likely that she'll go back.

Drink pleanty of water man, and I'm no religious person but I pray that you and her are able to get better because I know how awful all this shit is.

[Mollocephalus]

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I've been watching this thread closely, now that i'm unbanned i want to say that i'm really impressed by your strenght, go on smitty, you both need to get out of this.