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  • Litodude
    FFR Player
    • Feb 2006
    • 4548

    #16
    Re: [serious]ask me about personal finance

    ahh nice. yea i don't quite know the market in canada for housing, though i can assume the colder the area == easier to get a house lol.

    damn everything rubix said is pretty much spot on, i'm just here to give generic financial advice that isn't biased toward any agenda except self-improvement. i also don't see anyone asking me precise questions so my answers will be broader:
    Originally posted by Spenner
    Will there ever be another golden time to invest in a shitton of BTC like a few years ago when they were like 5USD a piece?
    You can't honestly speculate a market like BTC in the short-term. I will say that long-term it will continue to increase, but short-term (1-4 years) is 99% subjective. There are uses for cryptocurrencies (i.e. SilkRoad transactions, VPN purchases, etc.), and there's even an ATM in Canada for BTC popping up. It's new, there's no governing body, nothing is insured, so you have a chance of losing it all. But if you were lucky as the engineer I heard about on NPR who owned 24 BTCs or something in 2009 where BTC was @ $.004/per and now it's @ $200+/per well, you'll be a lucky guy eh?

    The market is there, and there is potential, but you should be wary and research more about it yourself. I might make a position in the future.

    Originally posted by rushyrulz
    i'm in college wtf do i do
    Live within your means and don't acquire unnecessary debt. FINISH school, otherwise your investment is a wasted effort unless you're a prodigy.
    Originally posted by DotKritic
    Should I buy TWTR stock?
    Yes. No.
    Originally posted by dAnceguy117
    401ks, ira, roths, CDs, bonds, stocks, mutual funds, indices, forex, btc, futures [serious]

    I've probably learned about each of these at least once but have since forgotten. what are these things and what should I be doing with money that I might someday have
    fucker.

    a 401k is the same thing as an Individual Retirement Account, it's just a fancy way of saying that whichever company you're working for, is offering you a retirement account. An IRA itself is individually owned; you control it - you manage it. They have different yearly limits (IRAs are generally around 5-6k, whereas a 401k is around 16-17k) A Roth IRA or Roth 401k is almost the exact same thing as above, but instead of being taxed when you take your money OUT of your IRA/401k, in a Roth, they tax it IMMEDIATELY.

    Why do you want to invest in a Roth IRA first? Because it's gaining interest over decades, tax free!! You're also betting tax rates will increase over time...You don't have to know economics to know taxes will be going up, wholly and/or individually.

    A Certificate of Deposit is something a bank gives you for letting them borrow your money. $1k, 3k, 5k, are usually the smaller amounts you give a bank to issue you a CD, and however long they keep your money (6mo, 1yr, 5yr, etc.) will give you back a certain % of interest. I don't recommend doing this right now, because the return rates are like 3-5% over like fuccen 5 years.

    A bond is something the government (any federal agency or municipality, or corp, but mostly the gov't) gives you for letting them borrow your money. Same thing as above. I don't recommend doing this, because the rates are like 1-2% over like fuccen TWENTY years.

    The above two are extremely safe forms of investment assuming your individual retirement accounts are sufficiently maxed out.

    A stock is a portion of a publicly traded entity/company/business that they give you when you let them borrow your money. We'll use a cake metaphor, where a cake is a company and a slice is a stock:

    There are many different many different flavors of cakes which can range from agriculture to big oil, to tech, to money, to good, to commodities; there are many. There are many different sizes of cakes and within them you can get many different slices of said cake; if you were richer you would obviously be able to afford more slices.
    There are plenty of cake enthusiasts that like particular types of cake whom are willing to pay a certain price for the cakes, depending on what people say about them, and sometimes the smaller, or not-well-known types of cake and be easily swayed by public opinion and the reviews written about that cake. Suddenly your cake might seem extra-extra special because of a special ingredient the baker announced he put in the cake. Sometimes the cake lovers might not be so enthused to enjoy the new ingredients in the cake. Bigger and more popular cakes on the other hand general don't get swayed often unless the head chef says something important about the cake, and that could have hugely detrimental or substantially positive effects on the price of the cake because more people make or may not want to keep buying the same cake. Some people might say they're tired of the cake and move on to another cake that has potential to grow into a niche between a few cake enthusiasts. And in between them, they will divvy up the slices and give themselves a shitload of pieces because we're America and we're fat bastards.


    A mutual fund is a group of stocks where you give your money to "professionals" [people] and hope that they get you a decent return while giving themselves a cut of the profits by charging you a 2% fee on your profits. The margin of profit may be high or lower. Probably higher. This is also called a hedge fund. opinion: It's a fucking waste

    An Index is a broad spectrum of companies that have an accurate representation of the current health of the market. The most popular one nowadays is the Dow Jones (Dow) and the Simple&Poor 500 (SnP/S&P). If you beat the S&P in their overall earnings for the fiscal year, you 'beat' the market!

    ForEx = Foreign Exchange. Think stocks, but with money!

    BTC = Bitcoins

    Futures = Kind of like stock options but not really. http://www.investopedia.com/video/pl...act-explained/

    Options = Buying and selling of contracts* of certain stocks at a specific date for a specific price. The closer you are to the price of the slices of cake at the target date, the more valuable your contract is.

    * 1 contract = 100 shares.
    Last edited by Litodude; 10-30-2013, 05:24 PM.
    Originally posted by t-rogdor
    i finally got a weed hookup again and i texted the dude asking where to meet him tomorrow and the dude just said "out west"

    dude
    out west?
    the fuck kinda location is west?
    am i buying weed off a gotdamn pirate


    Originally posted by lurker
    remind everyone that i am an outed racist neo-nazi who no one in their right mind should ever interact with in any way whatsoever

    http://imgur.com/a/Ww9g3

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    • Litodude
      FFR Player
      • Feb 2006
      • 4548

      #17
      Re: [serious]ask me about personal finance

      Originally posted by Hateandhatred
      Is there a way to invest in MLMs? Like invest in their growth, then retract the stocks when the officials kill it?
      The pyramid scheme only works if you're on top.

      Originally posted by psychoangel691
      I actually had gotten a decent amount of money back from a tax return and was considering putting it into a stock but I have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to that stuff. My father used to use etrade some time ago, but I look at that site and I'm just like wtf am I doing. Info on how to invest in stocks would be cool.
      I gave a basic tutorial, but investopedia and motley fool helps immensely. Have you gone through the necessary checklist to ensure you can afford investing in stocks (a highly risky investment?) Let's see:

      0. ZERO DEBT. NO CREDIT CARD BILLS. NO CAR PAYMENT. NUFFIN. EXCEPT A LOW-INTEREST RATE STUDENT LOAN THAT YOU CAN SUFFICIENTLY PAY OFF WITHIN 6 MONTHS BUT DECIDE TO EXTEND IT TO 3 YEARS TO BUILD YOUR CREDIT AT AN EXTREMELY LOW-FIXED-INTEREST RATE (like 3-6% fuccen please).
      1. 401k match (approx. $6k)
      2. Roth IRA max (6.5k single)
      3. 401k max ( 17.5k (including the 6k initially))
      4. Stocks/bonds/CDs/2nd IRA
      5. Startup-company (unless you're REALLY REALLY REALLY convince the your simfile is going to revolutionize the world, or you're a young entrepreneur that has a unique skillset with like-minded individuals with an idea that cannot easily be replicated and/or improves upon something currently existing in a drastic manner (The iPhone7))
      Last edited by Litodude; 10-30-2013, 05:19 PM.
      Originally posted by t-rogdor
      i finally got a weed hookup again and i texted the dude asking where to meet him tomorrow and the dude just said "out west"

      dude
      out west?
      the fuck kinda location is west?
      am i buying weed off a gotdamn pirate


      Originally posted by lurker
      remind everyone that i am an outed racist neo-nazi who no one in their right mind should ever interact with in any way whatsoever

      http://imgur.com/a/Ww9g3

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      • Reincarnate
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        • Nov 2010
        • 6332

        #18
        Re: [serious]ask me about personal finance

        Originally posted by Litodude
        1. 401k match (approx. $6k)
        2. Roth IRA max (6.5k single)
        3. 401k max ( 17.5k (including the 6k initially))
        4. Stocks/bonds/CDs/2nd IRA
        5. Startup-company (unless you're REALLY REALLY REALLY convince the your simfile is going to revolutionize the world, or you're a young entrepreneur that has a unique skillset with like-minded individuals with an idea that cannot easily be replicated and/or improves upon something currently existing in a drastic manner (The iPhone7))
        +1 to this ordering

        IMO, until you're maxing out your 401k and IRAs, you probably shouldn't be getting into stocks. If you're going to invest in something risky, do it with surplus money. And until you're set everywhere else, you don't yet have surplus money.
        Last edited by Reincarnate; 10-30-2013, 05:13 PM.

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        • Litodude
          FFR Player
          • Feb 2006
          • 4548

          #19
          Re: [serious]ask me about personal finance

          actually i edited c:
          Originally posted by t-rogdor
          i finally got a weed hookup again and i texted the dude asking where to meet him tomorrow and the dude just said "out west"

          dude
          out west?
          the fuck kinda location is west?
          am i buying weed off a gotdamn pirate


          Originally posted by lurker
          remind everyone that i am an outed racist neo-nazi who no one in their right mind should ever interact with in any way whatsoever

          http://imgur.com/a/Ww9g3

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          • Reincarnate
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            • Nov 2010
            • 6332

            #20
            Re: [serious]ask me about personal finance

            Still agreed (pretty much said the same thing above anyway).

            The nice thing about student loan debt is that usually you can deduct it on your taxes (up to $2500 IIRC).

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            • L.B.D.D
              FFR Player
              • Aug 2013
              • 2949

              #21
              Re: [serious]ask me about personal finance

              how can i make money online while working from home as a single mother

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              • lumphoboextreme
                FFR Veteran
                • Jan 2005
                • 8592

                #22
                Re: [serious]ask me about personal finance

                Ok, so I used to make a lot of money at internet poker when that was a thing... but now I basically have to be a normal person with a job. Bad news is I have literally no credit cause I paid for everything straight up in cash. Plus a lot of better paying jobs will turn me away because I have no credit and that deems me irresponsible in their eyes. Is there like a quick fix for this? lmao

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                • Litodude
                  FFR Player
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 4548

                  #23
                  Re: [serious]ask me about personal finance

                  show employers your grades and if your parents can't cosign for a line of credit, look with a local, small town credit company. they're usually more lenient toward the younger crowd with credit cards and give you like a $300 or $500 limit per month for the first few months/year.
                  Originally posted by t-rogdor
                  i finally got a weed hookup again and i texted the dude asking where to meet him tomorrow and the dude just said "out west"

                  dude
                  out west?
                  the fuck kinda location is west?
                  am i buying weed off a gotdamn pirate


                  Originally posted by lurker
                  remind everyone that i am an outed racist neo-nazi who no one in their right mind should ever interact with in any way whatsoever

                  http://imgur.com/a/Ww9g3

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                  • FoJaR
                    The Worst
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 2816

                    #24
                    Re: [serious]ask me about personal finance

                    so i'm thinking of starting a business








                    HAHAHA just kidding it is the last thing i will ever do

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                    • Litodude
                      FFR Player
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 4548

                      #25
                      Re: [serious]ask me about personal finance

                      i want to ><
                      Originally posted by t-rogdor
                      i finally got a weed hookup again and i texted the dude asking where to meet him tomorrow and the dude just said "out west"

                      dude
                      out west?
                      the fuck kinda location is west?
                      am i buying weed off a gotdamn pirate


                      Originally posted by lurker
                      remind everyone that i am an outed racist neo-nazi who no one in their right mind should ever interact with in any way whatsoever

                      http://imgur.com/a/Ww9g3

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                      • DotKritic
                        Forum User
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 2974

                        #26
                        Re: [serious]ask me about personal finance

                        Originally posted by Litodude
                        show employers your grades and if your parents can't cosign for a line of credit, look with a local, small town credit company. they're usually more lenient toward the younger crowd with credit cards and give you like a $300 or $500 limit per month for the first few months/year.
                        Like a Secured Credit Card?

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                        • devonin
                          Very Grave Indeed
                          Event Staff
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 10120

                          #27
                          Re: [serious]ask me about personal finance

                          Do what I did: Move to a city with absolutely no particular prospects, get a job by just walking into a place with a help wanted sign and asking, and then get promoted twice in a year to be the general manager.

                          It's working great!

                          Just kidding, it's absolutely fucking terrifying, because what the fuck am I doing? I have a history degree, why am I in charge of this many zeros? Something is going to fail miserably

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                          • L.B.D.D
                            FFR Player
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 2949

                            #28
                            Re: [serious]ask me about personal finance

                            Very
                            Grave
                            Indeed

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                            • Hateandhatred
                              "The Quebec Steparatist."
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 1974

                              #29
                              Re: [serious]ask me about personal finance

                              Originally posted by Litodude
                              The pyramid scheme only works if you're on top.
                              That isn't what I asked, I was simply wondering if there was a way to externally leech from the "company's" growth itself rather than taking part in the investment scheme. Like if they had "investissor stocks", where you could get money from the number of people that got sucked in, as if they were property of the "company". That'd be fucking awesome!
                              Ps yes I'm playing dumbass, I'd have a real question but google did the job
                              Last edited by Hateandhatred; 10-31-2013, 12:22 AM.
                              Forgot where I put my old sig lol

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                              • Reincarnate
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 6332

                                #30
                                Re: [serious]ask me about personal finance

                                Hateandhatred: When it comes to pyramid schemes/multi-level marketing schemes/etc, the best answer is almost always "Avoid them entirely." The only real way you can reap any significant profit from a scam is to be at the head of it. If you're investing in it, odds are you're on the outside, and can probably expect to lose money in the long term. There are much better things to throw your money at. Most MLMs aren't traded publicly anyway.

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