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  • Fission
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    • Jan 2004
    • 1850

    #16
    Re: What browser are you using?

    Originally posted by Jonlovesddr
    Chrome is a huge memory hog
    firefox is so much worse in terms of memory usage and and internet explorer is completely out of the question. other browsers aren't nearly as good as chrome in terms of speed and/or web standard compliance

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    • Ohaider
      FFR Veteran
      • Jun 2012
      • 2893

      #17
      Re: What browser are you using?

      Chrome, no problems with it

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      • Wayward Vagabond
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        FFR Simfile Author
        • Jul 2012
        • 5866

        #18
        Re: What browser are you using?

        ive never had any problems with chrome and i love it. track me all you want baby

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        • sticklydude
          r.i.p. tiny hippo
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Jan 2007
          • 2165

          #19
          Re: What browser are you using?

          Originally posted by Fission
          firefox is so much worse in terms of memory usage and and internet explorer is completely out of the question. other browsers aren't nearly as good as chrome in terms of speed and/or web standard compliance
          Today, we have the latest benchmark results from the top four Windows-based Web browsers, along with a sneak peek at Opera's upcoming Chromium-based overhaul. Is this really a step-up from Presto/Carakan or just another Chrome clone?


          All cases not necessarily true anymore. Firefox 22 is rated overall better performance than every other browser, but not much ahead of chrome though.





          And Firefox uses less memory, though this is mostly because of Chrome's design choice. Each Chrome tab has it's own seperate process. It's pretty much preference in this catagory.



          I still prefer chrome though.

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          • Fission
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            FFR Simfile Author
            • Jan 2004
            • 1850

            #20
            Re: What browser are you using?

            i'd rather use proprietary products than open source ones that aren't nearly as good. also, anybody complaining about web pages not loading properly in chrome, https://chrome.google.com/webstore/d...enadd?hl=en-US


            synthetic benchmarks don't mean much, they never have; i'm talking about real-world usage and experience. from my experience, firefox memory usage just kept getting worse and worse as i used it more, where chrome has been more stable on that front. also from my experience, chrome has rendered web pages so much faster than firefox has on my hardware.

            in regards to memory usage with multiple tabs open, that only matters if you have a lot of tabs open. firefox is less stable because it uses threads rather than processes, so i'd rather use more memory than have every tab crash when one of them crashes
            Last edited by Fission; 07-4-2013, 11:29 AM.

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            • TC_Halogen
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              • Feb 2008
              • 19376

              #21
              Re: What browser are you using?

              Firefox here, but I don't have a real issue with Chrome in terms of performance. However, I really dislike the fact that Chrome doesn't seem to ask you if you want to confirm closing the program, causing you to lose data. Not sure if they've fixed that.

              I'll also be staying with Firefox because of how the ABP add-on works as opposed to Chrome.

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              • sticklydude
                r.i.p. tiny hippo
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                • Jan 2007
                • 2165

                #22
                Re: What browser are you using?

                Originally posted by Fission
                i'd rather use proprietary products than open source ones that aren't nearly as good. also, anybody complaining about web pages not loading properly in chrome, https://chrome.google.com/webstore/d...enadd?hl=en-US


                synthetic benchmarks don't mean much, they never have; i'm talking about real-world usage and experience. from my experience, firefox memory usage just kept getting worse and worse as i used it more, where chrome has been more stable on that front. also from my experience, chrome has rendered web pages so much faster than firefox has on my hardware.

                in regards to memory usage with multiple tabs open, that only matters if you have a lot of tabs open. firefox is less stable because it uses threads rather than processes, so i'd rather use more memory than have every tab crash when one of them crashes
                These tests are on Firefox 22, which was released June 25, 2013.
                I understand if you feel that way about the benchmarks, but you rather having to use more memory is completely subjective and is sometimes not an option to others with lower system specs. Design choice. Doesn't make it less good.

                also from my experience, firefox has rendered web pages on par with chrome on my hardware.

                Just because something doesn't appeal to you doesn't make it not "nearly as good"

                Originally posted by Fission
                firefox is less stable because it uses threads rather than processes
                I'm curious about this since i've never heard this before. If you can elaborate on this, that'd be great.

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                  Banned
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 1907

                  #23
                  Re: What browser are you using?

                  firefox has always been mah choice
                  always will be

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                  • AlexDest
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                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 5309

                    #24
                    Re: What browser are you using?

                    chrome all the way

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                    • Fission
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                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 1850

                      #25
                      Re: What browser are you using?

                      Originally posted by sticklydude
                      These tests are on Firefox 22, which was released June 25, 2013.
                      I understand if you feel that way about the benchmarks, but you rather having to use more memory is completely subjective and is sometimes not an option to others with lower system specs. Design choice. Doesn't make it less good.
                      fair point. i just have a hunch that Firefox is leaking memory somewhere, unless this changed

                      Originally posted by sticklydude
                      also from my experience, firefox has rendered web pages on par with chrome on my hardware.

                      Just because something doesn't appeal to you doesn't make it not "nearly as good"
                      i haven't used firefox 22, so this is probably a result of some bias. chrome has been dominant on the performance front for so long that i didn't expect firefox to be able to catch up

                      Originally posted by sticklydude
                      I'm curious about this since i've never heard this before. If you can elaborate on this, that'd be great.
                      sure

                      operating system construct elaboration:
                      processes are instances of executables that are in execution or waiting for cpu time. they have overhead associated with them (i won't elaborate on this since it won't be understood unless you are a programmer) that control how the process behaves. this overhead is much greater than that of threads, which i will explain next. chrome, as you said, creates new processes for every tab, so the memory usage is inherently higher.

                      threads reside in a parent process and have the lifetime that a parent process does. they also share the same global memory of the parent process and with their sibling threads. this means that if a thread's global memory is corrupted, it effects the parent process and thereby all of the sibling threads. the advantage of threads is that they are lighter weight than processes, since most of the structural overhead associated with them is taken care of by the parent process. firefox creates new threads for every tab, so it uses less memory.

                      this leads me to my original statement that chrome is more stable than firefox because tabs are isolated from other tabs, so they are effectively sandboxed and cannot corrupt other processes and thus, more stable

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                      • noname219
                        FFR Wiki Admin
                        • May 2007
                        • 1694

                        #26
                        Re: What browser are you using?

                        60% Firefox (I'm used to it)
                        25% Safari (because Mac)
                        10% Chrome (haven't really used all the features but it works well everytime I use it)
                        5% Explorer (Grab Pro works only with it...)

                        Voted Safari because I was on it at the time.
                        Last edited by noname219; 07-4-2013, 05:05 PM.

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                        • DotKritic
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                          • Jun 2009
                          • 2974

                          #27
                          Re: What browser are you using?

                          Since I quit working at Target, I'm back to FF full-time. If I had to access an employee page when I worked at Target, I had to use IE.

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                          • James May
                            FFR Player
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 3817

                            #28
                            Re: What browser are you using?



                            haters gonna hate
                            bananas


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                            • Razor
                              Dan "Razor" Devilz
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                              • May 2004
                              • 1606

                              #29
                              Re: What browser are you using?

                              chrome #1

                              plus i love the way it syncs my bookmarks to my phone's web browser (inlove)
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                              • Izzy
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                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 9195

                                #30
                                Re: What browser are you using?

                                Unused ram is wasted ram. This goes for your computer as a whole. Your computer will perform the same at 5% usage as 99% usage. Assuming it never hits 100% and thrashes the HDD.

                                Chrome uses more ram for good reason and would use less if you had less ram.

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