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  • LJRoX
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    • Mar 2005
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    #136
    Re: Best video game ever made?

    The reason why I didn't like X3 as much as X2 is because I can't double damage with my x-buster

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    • Reach
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      • Jun 2003
      • 7471

      #137
      Re: Best video game ever made?

      Originally posted by Sakish
      Damn thats pretty fast, my best is around 45.
      What i tend to do is to get the helmet in storm eagle level so i can get the buster upgrade in the flame mammoth level. Simply because on the first sigma stage there is nothing more smooth than using chameleon's ultra for invincibility, makes the jumping ALOT easier ;_;

      Boomer kuwanger isnt that hard to go by without taking any damage considering missiles are homing plus hits him even when invisible.

      My worst stage is BY FAR the Launch octopus level, holy crap.. Water levels tend to piss me off in general however this one has gay spikes that ****s up my time if im not cautious >_<
      I suppose that's a viable strategy, but I definitely skip the helmet and buster upgrade in exchange for the armor. The only piss off is the armor takes the longest to get, but it helps a lot.


      I don't know what order you do the bosses in, but the fastest order is: Chill Penguin -> *Boomer Kuwanger* -> Sting -> Storm -> Flame -> Spark -> Armor -> Launch. Doing it this way will save you a couple of minutes.


      But it means I'm doing Boomer Kuwanger with the x buster, which is why it's an annoying stage in the run. I'm usually low health when I get to him, unless I get lucky and pick up some life. It's very easy to beat him quickly with the x-buster.

      It actually doesn't take any longer than with powers, which is why you do him second, since it'll help in other stages and it allows you to get Storm Eagle's power faster, which makes certain levels WAY faster (Spark Mandrill's stage, for example, is like 2 minutes faster. Launch Octopus's stage is way faster too). The only problem is because Boomer disappears and reappears a bit randomly, you can accidentally take a hit, which does quite a bit of damage. I've had to restart the run a bunch of times because of this >_> Usually though, you can do a bit of a air dash jump trick to fake him into reappearing in the corners every time, which makes it cake.

      I usually don't have any problems with Launch octopus, actually. His stage is so much easier with the wind power. Killing him is a bit annoying, but if you have the armor you can just stand there and take the hits and he'll die before you do. If you don't have the armor, you'll have to dodge him a bit.

      I've beaten it in 40 minutes maybe twice, and it involves skipping all upgrades and tanks, and hoping you don't die lol. I can reliably do it in about 50 minutes every time though.


      As for Sigma's stage, just make sure you're using Storm Eagle's power. It pretty much 1 shot kills everything, in every stage, so you don't need to take any damage. The only piss off is the spider boss. There's no reliable way of damaging him other than by using the Ice charge, and it doesn't do much. If he hits you it does so much ****ing damage.

      All of the other bosses die pretty easily and reliably, other than final Sigma. He's still pretty easy. The only pain in the ass is if you get knocked off his hands, most of the stuff that can hit you can kill you really easily and ruin your run ;_;


      In general the games feel more cluttered as they progress past X3/X4, imo. They start to deviate from what works and they wind up venturing into new territories that don't seem to add much value. X1-X3 did a lot of things correctly (imo) and are memorable, solid games all the way through.
      I definitely don't think they should have messed with many of the core gameplay elements. I think there are a lot of ways they could have kept the series fresh without introducing things that changed the way you play the game.

      It's sort of like, say, Donkey Kong Country. You just don't mess with the formula. The newest game in the series kept it fresh without changing the way the game plays at all.
      Last edited by Reach; 07-12-2011, 11:01 AM.

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      • Reincarnate
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        • Nov 2010
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        #138
        Re: Best video game ever made?

        What do you think the hardest MMX (any MMX game) boss is?

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        • ~kitty~
          FFR Player
          • Jun 2007
          • 988

          #139
          Re: Best video game ever made?

          Originally posted by Reincarnate
          Megaman X took a huge nosedive after X3. X4 onward just... they don't play the same, feel the same, etc.
          I agree with this. I liked X2 most. I liked Megaman 7 as well. I haven't really played many other Megaman games, but I have played Megaman Legends, and it was pretty nice but I never got around finishing it due to a faulty decade old PS and a PS2 that was old as well and lost its backwards compatibility.

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          • Reach
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            FFR Simfile Author
            • Jun 2003
            • 7471

            #140
            Re: Best video game ever made?

            Originally posted by Reincarnate
            What do you think the hardest MMX (any MMX game) boss is?
            Depends on the conditions. A lot of bosses can be made pretty easy with the right gear and special moves.

            Without using any powers, hearts and without any special armors (So fighting bare bones), the hardest boss I've fought (X1 through X4) is probably Sigma from X3. This fight is actually harder using the X buster upgrade, so if you're going to do it without powers you might as well not upgrade your arm. The problem is, it's very hard to actually hit him with your x buster, and the upgrade makes this worse. Combined with the fact that his projectiles can be hard to predict and he'll kill you in like 2 hits, it's pretty ****ing annoying.

            It certainly can't be Sigma from X2; it's a tough fight, but you can heal yourself pretty regularly, so he's not a huge threat. X1 Sigma is hard using only the X buster and no upgrades for sure, and is probably the second hardest boss, but he's a bit more predictable IMO.

            The hardest regular boss? Hmm. So hard to say. Bare bones again, it probably is Launch Octopus from X1, Centipede from X2 (Though, to be fair, they're all easy), Blast Hornet from X3 and Jet Stingray from X4.
            Last edited by Reach; 07-12-2011, 11:45 AM.

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            • Reincarnate
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              #141
              Re: Best video game ever made?

              Kaiser Sigma is actually *mad* easy with Zero's maxed out Saber (landing the final green slash takes off like 45% of his health at a time iirc)

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              • Reach
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                • Jun 2003
                • 7471

                #142
                Re: Best video game ever made?

                Originally posted by Reincarnate
                Kaiser Sigma is actually *mad* easy with Zero's maxed out Saber (landing the final green slash takes off like 45% of his health at a time iirc)
                Well, to be fair, you can 1 hit kill Sigma 1 and 2 with Hadouken and Shoryuken, respectively.

                Don't want to take any funny business like that into consideration to make it a fair representation of boss difficulty.

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                • Reincarnate
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                  #143
                  Re: Best video game ever made?

                  Yeah -- I just find it funny that even Kaiser Sigma isn't invincible. I agree he's the hardest of the Sigma iterations, though.

                  The hardest MM boss though has got to me MM7's. Rockman and Forte is also a ****ing crazy hard MM game.
                  Last edited by Reincarnate; 07-12-2011, 01:02 PM.

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                  • Reincarnate
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    #144
                    Re: Best video game ever made?

                    Actually, heh, now I remember: Violin from X2 -- pretty tough

                    Or Rangda Bangda w/Zero in X5... holy shit it gets retarded towards the end
                    Last edited by Reincarnate; 07-12-2011, 07:05 PM.

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                    • Sakish
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                      • Sep 2007
                      • 2973

                      #145
                      Re: Best video game ever made?

                      Originally posted by Reincarnate
                      Actually, heh, now I remember: Violin from X2 -- pretty tough

                      Or Rangda Bangda w/Zero in X5... holy shit it gets retarded towards the end
                      Rangda Bangda is in more than one game fffffff

                      @Reach: I never get the armor. Launch octopus the boss isnt that hard, just the minibosses are pretty gay to get by without taking any damage if your trying to hurry the **** up.

                      However my BEST VGM ever is in sigma stage 2, nothing more beautiful than this

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                      • Reincarnate
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                        #146
                        Re: Best video game ever made?

                        I actually do quite like the boss theme from X5, if there is something I can give it credit for:



                        And from X4, I just love all the music/sounds of the Magma Dragoon fight:

                        Last edited by Reincarnate; 07-13-2011, 10:05 AM.

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                        • Reach
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                          • Jun 2003
                          • 7471

                          #147
                          Re: Best video game ever made?

                          Reach: I never get the armor. Launch octopus the boss isnt that hard, just the minibosses are pretty gay to get by without taking any damage if your trying to hurry the **** up.
                          Just use the power you get from spark mandrill to instantly kill the first two guys.

                          The snake that comes out of the ground is killed in one hit with storm eagle's power; another reason you should do the levels in the order I suggest. It also kills enemies chronically in the way throughout the level, so you can easily get to the end with full life.

                          From there he's easy. You can just tank the damage from the homing fishes while spamming and he'll go down really fast.

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                          • Reincarnate
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                            • Nov 2010
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                            #148
                            Re: Best video game ever made?

                            Reach: Up for a 100% completion speedrun?

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                            • Coolboyrulez0
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                              • Aug 2006
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                              #149
                              Re: Best video game ever made?

                              Regardless of how good of a game X5 is (haven't played it, thus can't judge), this has got to be one of my favorite VG openings ever.
                              Absolutely flawless and makes me want to go play the game.



                              Is it wise to get Megaman Collection (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mega_Man_X_Collection) btw or is the emulation not done efficiently enough to warrant a purchase?
                              I'd prefer to have it all on one disc, instead of the individual cartridges / discs.
                              Last edited by Coolboyrulez0; 07-14-2011, 08:34 AM.
                              https://soundcloud.com/cbrbreakcore
                              https://cbrrecords.bandcamp.com/

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                              • Reincarnate
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                                • Nov 2010
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                                #150
                                Re: Best video game ever made?

                                Also really good (even if it's loaded with anime cliches), love the song too:




                                CBR: It's all on one disc.
                                Last edited by Reincarnate; 07-14-2011, 08:47 AM.

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