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  • Solid Dreams
    FFR Player
    • Apr 2008
    • 298

    #751
    Re: World of Warcraft

    I think it's funny that only my rogue friends are saying PVP sucks now.

    You shouldn't talk down to people you don't know anything about, acting like you know more and then try to show them up in the forum. That's how you get absolutely no where.

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    • Not_Popular
      FFR Veteran
      • Feb 2009
      • 86

      #752
      Re: World of Warcraft

      Lol Rogues would say that. Even though they are devastating close ranged everyone has found ways around them.

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      • Squeek
        let it snow~
        • Jan 2004
        • 14444

        #753
        Re: World of Warcraft

        i wonder why rogues think pvp is too easy and hate pve

        it can't be because rogues are the pvp class of the game and are totally designed around that utility

        no that can't be it

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        • Tokzic
          FFR Player
          • May 2005
          • 6878

          #754
          Re: World of Warcraft

          Originally posted by Squeek
          i wonder why rogues think pvp is too easy and hate pve

          it can't be because rogues are the pvp class of the game and are totally designed around that utility

          no that can't be it
          let's see you outdps me in pve before you say that they're totally designed around pvp

          Last edited by Tokzic: Today at 11:59 PM. Reason: wait what

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          • Not_Popular
            FFR Veteran
            • Feb 2009
            • 86

            #755
            Re: World of Warcraft

            You got called out. Lol. I can't say much because i have an 80 hunter with Naxx and Naxx heroic gear.

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            • Squeek
              let it snow~
              • Jan 2004
              • 14444

              #756
              Re: World of Warcraft

              I'm not saying you suck at pve. I'm saying that you're designed for pvp.

              The reason rogues like izzy love pvp and hate pve is because rogues are designed to be an 'everything for myself' class. You can see this as evident by the complete lack of group buffs the class has to offer. Every class has group buffs except rogues.

              You kick ass in pvp without even trying because you have things no class can hope to match: stealth and speed. Sure, you get destroyed if it's you vs more than one enemy, but for the most part in an open battlefield you can just pick off people one at a time and never even take damage.

              My class is the exact opposite of yours. I'm designed for group buffs and not much else. I don't even attempt pvp because I have no chance. My buffs come in the form of destroyable small-range aura sticks. What hope do I have of winning? I'll stick to PVE, where the tank can keep the mobs/boss away from my totems without even trying.

              So obviously I'm not going to beat a DPS class in a DPS race, but we even out because I bring unique buffs to the raid along with decent DPS.
              Last edited by Squeek; 03-25-2009, 02:27 PM.

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              • Not_Popular
                FFR Veteran
                • Feb 2009
                • 86

                #757
                Re: World of Warcraft

                Not really. Almost every class has tricks to take out rogues. Just it's how people use their skills against rogues.

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                • Squeek
                  let it snow~
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 14444

                  #758
                  Re: World of Warcraft

                  I don't know about you, but I can't do anything while stunned except die.

                  All it takes is a simple stunlock for five seconds and you can drop me.

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                  • Not_Popular
                    FFR Veteran
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 86

                    #759
                    Re: World of Warcraft

                    Use trinkets, racial abilities, class abilities, everything. Me being a hunter, rogues have an impossibly hard time taking me down.

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                    • Izzy
                      Snek
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 9195

                      #760
                      Re: World of Warcraft

                      I don't love pvp because I'm a rogue. Regardless of which character of mine i am playing I just enjoy the pvp aspect of the game more then the pve. Fast paced somewhat unpredictable combat. Pvp is not to easy as a rogue considering 60% or higher of every bg game consists of paladins, deathknights, and warriors. It makes it quite lame because you can't exactly pick any of those classes off quickly before being interuppted by a few other people.

                      I can potentially kill a warrior of deathknight if i had a long time to attack him 1v1 and i had most of my cooldowns remaining. I can maybe kill a paladin if i catch him with his bubble down and 75% hp or lower. Still, all you have to do is trinket out of cheapshot or kidney and you are good to go.
                      Last edited by Izzy; 03-25-2009, 02:34 PM.

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                      • Sullyman2007
                        FFR Player
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 1663

                        #761
                        Re: World of Warcraft

                        I have several tactics that work well when dealing with rogues in battlegrounds. If you know how to use your spells and trinkets (and you aren't retarded), they usually aren't a problem.

                        People find it quite funny when they see an undead rogue try to gank a holy priest, but the priest turns around and kicks his ass.

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                        • Not_Popular
                          FFR Veteran
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 86

                          #762
                          Re: World of Warcraft

                          True. Disc-Shadow Priests own at times. Depending on the spec choices. And bg's are so filled with DK's, Warriors, and Paladins.

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                          • Solid Dreams
                            FFR Player
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 298

                            #763
                            Re: World of Warcraft

                            What sucks for rogues is they've still not *fixed* stealth.

                            Hunter's pets shouldnt be able to find you.

                            Same with being able to target them while they're stealthed halfway across the field.

                            But still, most rogues I know can dismantle any class, but they whine about not being able to because they don't get help while everyone else usually does it in a group of 2 or more.

                            You shouldn't talk down to people you don't know anything about, acting like you know more and then try to show them up in the forum. That's how you get absolutely no where.

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                            • Squeek
                              let it snow~
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 14444

                              #764
                              Re: World of Warcraft

                              Originally posted by Not_Popular
                              Use trinkets, racial abilities, class abilities, everything. Me being a hunter, rogues have an impossibly hard time taking me down.
                              Don't have any, don't have any, don't have any, don't have anything.

                              Oops. Tauren shaman don't have anything.

                              I can war stomp, but I can't use it unless I know you're there. I wouldn't know you're there until you start hitting me, and I can't use it when stunned. So basically, I die.

                              Also as a ranged class I wouldn't want you to be near me in the first place so war stomp really doesn't benefit me much at all.

                              But I really don't care for pvp at all and have only entered battlegrounds for the sake of holiday achievements. I'm going to dread the children's week achievements, being the worst class for pvp and all. I chose a support class because I knew I wouldn't like pvp and wanted to be a beneficial class rather than just another DPS. Doesn't hurt that we're the only class that can self-rez and that we have the best buff in the game.

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                              • Not_Popular
                                FFR Veteran
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 86

                                #765
                                Re: World of Warcraft

                                Well. There is always PVP trinkets you can get. And whomever you're PVPing with should be helping you out anyways.

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