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  • Afrobean
    Admiral in the Red Army
    • Dec 2003
    • 13262

    #631
    Re: World of Warcraft

    Originally posted by dood gone krazee
    I dunno what's happening, but I'm getting massive lag all of a sudden, making play impossible.
    I've had problems with my Internet connection lately too. It even dropped off completely a few times.

    Then my dad told me they were updating the lines to fiber optic and Internet was out for all of Michigan. I'd think he's exaggerting in scope, but is it possible something similar was happening on your end?

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    • Squeek
      let it snow~
      • Jan 2004
      • 14444

      #632
      Re: World of Warcraft

      Izzy, when I pug, I'm in the top 5 DPS every time. I never die unless it's a wipe and I offheal if the need calls for it. But just because I'm a pug member, I don't get to roll? What kind of logic is that?

      Also, I don't even know how a group not pulling at least 2k DPS can down bosses with enrage timers. Care to explain that one to me?

      And finally, your argument fails to realize one simple truth: even if you don't pug, you're rolling on gear. It might be "so easy" to get an 8% drop, but it's not "so easy" to roll against 10 other people for it and win it. So you're going to see it once every 14 weeks and you'll get the CHANCE to roll on it if it drops. Let's say you run with the same group all the time and it drops once every 14 weeks. Every time it drops, another person gets it and is out of the list of people who needs it. So then you go another 14 weeks, you see it again, and roll. Let's just say your rolls fail miserably and you don't get it until you're the very last one. That means you've waited 140 weeks to get the item, which is nearly three years.

      SO EASY MIRITE

      I'll likely never see myself holding a better weapon than the one I have just because of the odds of getting it.

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      • tsugomaru
        FFR Player
        • Aug 2004
        • 3962

        #633
        Re: World of Warcraft

        Just to be clear, our guild always allows you to roll on gear you need, it's just you may not get it if you have the top roll and the reason is usually more than justified.

        ~Tsugomaru
        Originally posted by Hiluluk
        WHEN do you think people die...?
        When their heart is pierced by a bullet from a pistol...? No.
        When they succumb to an incurable disease...? No.
        When they drink soup made with a poisonous mushroom...? NO!!!
        IT'S WHEN A PERSON IS FORGOTTEN...!!!

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        • Izzy
          Snek
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Jan 2003
          • 9195

          #634
          Re: World of Warcraft

          I never said anything of the sort squeek. I was reffering to not pugging. Basically id rather not pug, but there are like no guilds anywhere for some reason. At least none that can cough up 25 people.

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          • Squeek
            let it snow~
            • Jan 2004
            • 14444

            #635
            Re: World of Warcraft

            Ah, see, Devo didn't quote who said that. Tsugo said that.

            Stupid logic regardless.

            Also my DK finally made it to Northrend and is now 70. Since I've already done this dance once, I know what quests to ignore this time around as they were just a massive pain in the ass the first time around. For example, the end of the chain starting with donning a cloak and infiltrating the scourge base. I'm gonna go ahead and skip all of that. The quest chain in Zul'Drak where you don a scourge outfit and infiltrate a base with your damn outfit falling apart every five minutes. Skipping that. There are so many others.

            So far I think I'm going to make it an Unholy tank. I have no idea how good they are as I haven't exactly gone around asking what DK specs most people choose, but in the only experience I've had with tanking so far, I thought I did pretty damn well. While I was grinding out the last two levels in Nagrand, someone asked the zone if they wanted to join their Durn the Hungerer group. I accepted and soon found out it was just two DKs and me. One was Blood at level 70 and one was Frost at level 69. I was 66 and Unholy. We all switched to Frost Presence, of course, and had at him. I had aggro most of the time despite being in Outland gear. This was bad, actually, since I was also not the spec that could self-heal. Had to burn a potion and kill my pet to stay alive but we dropped him soon enough. Outland is totally not scaled for DKs, I've learned. It's all way too easy compared to other classes.

            Speaking of Outland gear, once I got to Northrend I soon saw just how bad it was. The very first weapon quest reward gave me a 2H sword with a min damage higher than the max damage on my old one. The armor on my plate armor was almost twice as high.
            Last edited by Squeek; 03-5-2009, 11:12 AM.

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            • Izzy
              Snek
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Jan 2003
              • 9195

              #636
              Re: World of Warcraft

              I am going to level another DK to 80 soon for the gold, and then delete it and do it again. Maybe to just 77 or everything before i need a mount.

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              • Solid Dreams
                FFR Player
                • Apr 2008
                • 298

                #637
                Re: World of Warcraft

                Death Knights are really good aoe tanks, like paladins.

                But they have more health, and they're better with magic.

                You shouldn't talk down to people you don't know anything about, acting like you know more and then try to show them up in the forum. That's how you get absolutely no where.

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                • bender5
                  The 40% Iron Chef
                  • Jan 2005
                  • 4894

                  #638
                  Re: World of Warcraft

                  In the whole debate over roll/dkp personally I prefer DKP. That's how my guild operates and it basically is a way to reward the people who attend the most raids with the most gear. Which prevents some undergeared idiot to just come in and say ok spend all the dkp I got tonight on one thing and then not raid til progression is done.

                  I'm not saying we are on progression now seeing as everything has been on farm since late Jan, but in the scheme of things if you were one of the original raid to down a boss why should someone who dodged progression and repair bills get an equal shot at the same loot as you?

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                  • devonin
                    Very Grave Indeed
                    Event Staff
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 10120

                    #639
                    Re: World of Warcraft

                    why should someone who dodged progression and repair bills get an equal shot at the same loot as you?
                    I suspect your guild probably has a much higher instance of under18s who don't work full-time jobs.

                    You know why some people in my guild might "dodge progression"? Because they have a full-time job and two kids, and -maybe- one night every week or two they can be online long enough to come to a raid. Such a person should have a MUCH lesser chance to actually get good gear for them, just because they have a life outside WoW which consumes more of their time?

                    The alternative is that they get left way behind everyone in terms of gear, and when you're ready to go to 25-mans, they have barely even had a chance to get 10-man gear, and might as well just quit the guild and go somewhere else.

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                    • bender5
                      The 40% Iron Chef
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 4894

                      #640
                      Re: World of Warcraft

                      At 18 I think I am the second youngest person in the guild that actively raids. Everybody has jobs, college, wives, husbands or kids. The people that dodge progression are the people that are around my age in high school or people that don't try to get gear from anything but the 25 mans we do. They are the people that expect to be carried through to get gear when if they really wanted to have the gear they are more than capable of taking the time to attempt to get it.

                      That really pisses me off because it's obvious when someone is dodging progression. When we first got maly down we couldn't get a group to go, but my GM tricked people into coming by putting Naxx on the calendar and 33 people signed up as opposed to the 21 that signed up specifically for Maly.

                      And when I say I'm the second youngest to actively raid I mean attend all of the raids and progression. There are plenty of kids in my guild that play just don't raid like I do.

                      And yes people do get left behind in terms of gear, and then don't get to come to 25 mans because they aren't geared enough so they end up quitting the guild to find someone to carry them. We are trying to be as competitive as possible, and if it means you can't keep up that's unfortunate.

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                      • Izzy
                        Snek
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 9195

                        #641
                        Re: World of Warcraft

                        They need to fix resilience, I don't think anyone in pve gear should even have a chance at killing someone in pvp gear. You should not be able to burn someone with 800 resilliance down in 3 seconds. In tbc 450 resilliance reduced crit damage by 22% or something, now 800 resilliance reduces crit damage by 15 or something when it should be 35-40 to make pvp balanced.

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                        • Solid Dreams
                          FFR Player
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 298

                          #642
                          Re: World of Warcraft

                          Yeah, totally, cause then anyone who wants to go into pvp shouldn't have a shot at winning anything.

                          You shouldn't talk down to people you don't know anything about, acting like you know more and then try to show them up in the forum. That's how you get absolutely no where.

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                          • Izzy
                            Snek
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 9195

                            #643
                            Re: World of Warcraft

                            You slowly get pvp gear like everyone else. Then you get savage glad and you are decent in bg's until you get hateful and so on. Pvp progression.

                            Shouldn't be able to pve and own at pvp just because you have pve gear. Makes pvp pointless.

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                            • Sullyman2007
                              FFR Player
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 1663

                              #644
                              Re: World of Warcraft

                              Delivery.

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                              • Kagome
                                Pop'n Music.
                                • May 2003
                                • 1314

                                #645
                                Re: World of Warcraft

                                Resilience ruined pvp in my opinion.

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