World of Warcraft

[vpr0721]

Re: World of Warcraft

Well, running 10 man Naxx is not really as worth it as going to 25 man Naxx, especially if 25 man Naxx is easier and gives better gear.

Also, damn you Sons of Hodir.

~Tsugomaru

You can always go to 10 man naxx to get gear to replace gear you have yet to get from 25 man naxx. Also there are crap loads of achievements in 10 man naxx. "Momma said knock you out" is one of the very few.

[Squeek]

Re: World of Warcraft

Maybe some kind of WoW wiki

Hope you were kidding. Wowwiki sucks for this kind of thing. Almost all of their information is outdated and the pages are cluttered as hell.

Tokzic suggested the Armory, since it has "find an upgrade" on the page. So I looked at that. Yet another discrepancy in how to determine the "best". To them, stats don't matter. A leather helmet with 91 spell power, two sockets (including one meta), and of course the stam, int, and spr, is worse than a mail helmet with just armor.

I do like how they lay it out and will still use it as a reference but it's just so frustrating that nobody has sat down and written a very simple "you want to aim for this and that will get you ready for the next step of equipment which is this and that will get you ready for this set here"

[Kagome]

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Here you go Squeek.

http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=65867

Also take a look at this.

http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t20914-shaman_elemental/

[devonin]

Re: World of Warcraft

Maybe the right answer is to learn your class, learn the mechanics underlying the powers you have and use, and make your own educated decisions as to what is better for you.

I'm a paladin tank, however, most sources I've ever seen for the ranking of paladin tanking gear emphasizes stamina over absolutely everything else. As a personal build choice, I tend to stack an above average amount of avoidance to make up for less stamina and do perfectly fine. However, as a result, I disagree with many "this is better than that" lists on the internet.

If you're prepared to use the same talent build and spell rotation as the shamans who make the websites you're looking at, then their ranking of gear is going to work for you.

To make matters worse, raiding gear and playing gear aren't going to be the same thing.

You'll see holy paladins wearing cloth, leather, mail and plate. Since in raids, they should basically only ever be getting hit with raid/area damage and never pulling aggro, they don't need the high armour values native to plate, and many pieces of gear intended for other classes work perfectly fine for them. Try soloing in cloth and you'll find the results less than ideal.

Put simply: There is no single list of "this is the best gear for this level of play" unless you assume that your playstyle is the same as theirs.

[Kagome]

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If you're prepared to use the same talent build and spell rotation as the shamans who make the websites you're looking at, then their ranking of gear is going to work for you..

In PvE the stats he will need for raiding will be the same no matter how he speced in the elemental tree. He'll still need to be hit capped before anything else.

[Sir Psycho]

Re: World of Warcraft

For Warriors:
* Changing stances now has a much reduced cost: you lose a maximum of 20 rage (10 with Tactical Mastery). For example, if you have 100 rage and change stances, you will have 80 rage remaining. If you have 10 rage and change stances, all of your rage is lost. In addition, we may change the penalties associated with some stances.
* You now gain rage when damage done to you is absorbed, such as through a Power Word: Shield.
* Blood Frenzy now causes 2/4% physical damage done.
* Sunder Armor (and similar debuffs) now reduces armor by 4% per application, and is now a single rank. Creature armor has been globally reduced so that debuffed targets should take about the same damage from physical attacks that they did before this change. The net effect should be that this debuff is slightly less mandatory in PvE and is not disproportionately more powerful against cloth targets in PvP.
* We are also adding increased damage to Arms, possibly through Overpower or Slam.
* We are also looking at granting rage when the warrior blocks, dodges or parries.

[devonin]

Re: World of Warcraft

* We are also looking at granting rage when the warrior blocks, dodges or parries.

So giving you as a basic ability, something paladins had to go relatively deep into prot to get. Snazzy.

[Izzy]

Re: World of Warcraft

I want to see a 25 man naxx raid with 15+ death knight dps.

Edit: bought that titansteel two hander mace because i had all the mats. (except frozen orbs) Also got that full savage saronite set to get me started on pvp. Mining 200 ore only took around 30 minutes.

[Sir Psycho]

Re: World of Warcraft

So giving you as a basic ability, something paladins had to go relatively deep into prot to get. Snazzy.

Ok, but unlike you guys, we start with nothing and have to build it up. When I'm tanking at times I'll sit there and dodge and parry in excess of 10 hits and I'll be bankrupt of all rage. We have a minute CD for 20 rage. Every other tank has a skill that does this, we're getting leveled out with that without needing BoSanc.

[Izzy]

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Warriors should be best at tanking imo. Just because it makes sense.

[SeraphinEskred]

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if i read that list correctly, there isn't a single death knight? it ALMOST makes me wanan play retail WoW, just to get a DK on there.....nah i'll stick to private servers >>

[Sir Psycho]

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Warriors should be best at tanking imo. Just because it makes sense.

Maybe not overall, but they should stay the best at single target tanking.

Paladins should be the best to AoE tanking.

Druids should be damage soakers and OTs for bosses that have a Hateful Strike-like effect.

DKs should be a mixture of everything.

They should nerf and buff things so you must have one of everything in a raid and not just have 3 pally tanks/DKs/druids. Because you can easily do this.

[fido123]

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if i read that list correctly, there isn't a single death knight? it ALMOST makes me wanan play retail WoW, just to get a DK on there.....nah i'll stick to private servers >>

There are tons of DK's. Private servers suck ass btw...it's not really a whole lot of fun to basically walk your way though raids. Unless the server is balanced well such as the real WoW server...it's basically easy mode.

[operationstrawbarry]

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if i read that list correctly, there isn't a single death knight? It almost makes me wanan play retail wow, just to get a dk on there.....nah i'll stick to private servers >>

no more ****ing dks!!!!!

private server blows. Played on it and it basically plays just like a Kill-gain-exp-and-repeat

[Sir Psycho]

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Probably because most people that rolled DK were either scrub players or were sick of their main.