World of Warcraft

[Sullyman2007]

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Bloodsail Admiral Devonin. Man that took an annoyingly long time.

Now I only need about 3500 silk cloth, and I'm good to go.

Also, Ulduar raid is coming inthe next patch, one step up from Naxx in difficulty, 10 and 20 man versions.

Is it even worth it just so you can have "Bloodsail Admiral"? I read somewhere that it also makes you hated by all the goblins, which I guess isn't a big deal for WotLK.

[devonin]

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It does make you hated by all the goblins, that's what the 3500 silk cloth is for, getting unhated by all the goblins :P

[Sullyman2007]

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3.1 for priests looks pretty sweet. Sup GROUP SHIELD.

[tsugomaru]

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I'm liking a lot of the changes in 3.1.

Squeek, you're probably geared for 25 man Naxx. As long as you run with a guild that has cleared it before, you should be able to participate no problem as a shaman. We've cleared 25 man Naxx with 3-4 dps under 1500 dps, maybe more.

~Tsugomaru

[devonin]

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DPS, especially single DPS in 25-mans have the lowest actual requirements to do anything.

If the fight doesn't involve position or movement, you have to stand there, and run your rotation, and then run your rotation, and other better geared and better DPS producing players can make up for your lack.

A 25-man that has cleared Naxx can almost certainly 24-man it, and so subbing out for even a really crappy DPS doesn't actually cause them any problems.

I suppose that half the reason why so many bosses in Wrath have enrage timers now is to actually force higher standards onto raiding DPS. If your tanks are good enough, and your heals are good enough, you used to not especially have to care how good the DPS was because they'd drop eventually. At least now DPS gets to see some of the work and effort that has already been going into making sure your tanks meet -all- the necessary requirements instead of just "being able to do ao bunch of damage, I guess"

[Squeek]

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Well, according to my Rawr thing, which isn't 100% accurate (I wouldn't even say it's 90% accurate but hell it's better than guessing by myself), I'm up to 1800 DPS unbuffed. Rawr just recently implemented EleSham in it so there's a lot missing, like our only non-totem buff, for one. And it's hard to say "this is my DPS" because the DPS-increasing totems may not be the totems I have to use in any given fight. For example, the 5% spell haste is nice (not really but it's nicer than 0% spell haste) but maybe there are more melee DPSes than there are spellcasters, so they'd prefer Windfury for 16% melee haste.

Anyway I've grown tired of just running dailies for money so I've gone back and started doing all the quests I skipped. Specifically, group quests. I'm soloing level 80 group quests. It's pretty sick what gear does for you. Where my guaranteed Lava Burst crit used to hit for 4k, it now hits up to 7k. Gotten Borean, Fjord, Sholazar, and Storm Peaks completely cleaned out of quests. Nearly done with Dragonblight and Zul'Drak my first time through so it's just a few more there. I dread having to do Grizzly but it's gotta get done eventually.

[tsugomaru]

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Well, running 10 man Naxx is not really as worth it as going to 25 man Naxx, especially if 25 man Naxx is easier and gives better gear.

Also, damn you Sons of Hodir.

~Tsugomaru

[Izzy]

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I suppose that half the reason why so many bosses in Wrath have enrage timers now is to actually force higher standards onto raiding DPS. If your tanks are good enough, and your heals are good enough, you used to not especially have to care how good the DPS was because they'd drop eventually. At least now DPS gets to see some of the work and effort that has already been going into making sure your tanks meet -all- the necessary requirements instead of just "being able to do ao bunch of damage, I guess"

That's not true. Pre tbc alot of raid bosses were heavily dependent on ridiculous dps. In 40 man naxx there was alot of bosses that would put stacks of debuffs on your tank to where the fight became impossible after a certain point. You have to switch tanks in and out to drop off debuff stacks. I remember grull in tbc being like that to.

One of my favorite bosses was the 2nd one in black wing lair. It was just a huge dps race. Also the abomination thing from naxx 40. I haven't done the new 10-25 man naxx so i am not sure if its just exactly the same or not.

[Kagome]

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Patchwerk(the abomination thing) is still just a DPS race.

[Biff_tech]

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Here's my toon.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Arthas&n=Gaamat

Enchantments are too damn expensive 300-400 a pop no thanks, maybe when I get better gear i'll look into it more but for now i'm concentrating on getting my rep. up with the Alliance Vangaurd so that I can buy the Chopper Schematic. Also the reason I have any gem's in my gear is due to my friend being a JC.

[Sir Psycho]

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Patchwerk(the abomination thing) is still just a DPS race.

It's a DPS race and heal check at the same time.

I went Fury on my warrior because my new guild has a lot of tanks. They're cycling people through tanking, but will still get to raid on an offspec. In 5 mans(Still in a few blues) I'm pushing about 2.9k DPS.

Supposedly in Ulduar warrior tanks are going to be used more(other tanks seem to have replaced warriors in Naxx) and CC is supposedly going to be needed

[devonin]

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Paladins are getting exorcism boosted to be able to hit anything, but always crit against undead and demons. That alone is going to help keep pally tanks preferred over warriors/druids in many cases.

[Sir Psycho]

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Well ****ing ****. My class is now a bad tanking class. Until they fix it so prot warriors are on par or better(which they should be imo) with single target threat, screw tanking.

[Squeek]

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Just ran OS25 with 19 people. I'm guessing they wanted the achievement but couldn't manage to get two more people. They turned away a lot of DKs so there wouldn't be a million people rolling on the plate.

Nothing dropped for me but I didn't die so that's always fun. 4 Valor Emblems (whatever the hell those are) and some fun experience.

On a different note, it's really quite annoying trying to find out the best gear I can get pre-naxx. One site says one thing, Rawr says another thing, and all the data is skewed and all over the place. Rawr actually suggested something would be better than what I had, when what I had had more SP, more stam, more int, and crit as the extra stat and the new item had mp5.

I don't want to have to sift through every single entry on Wowhead. Isn't there a centralized location that tells you "THIS IS THE BEST YOU CAN GET BEFORE YOU START RAIDING."?

[l2awr]

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Just ran OS25 with 19 people. I'm guessing they wanted the achievement but couldn't manage to get two more people. They turned away a lot of DKs so there wouldn't be a million people rolling on the plate.

Nothing dropped for me but I didn't die so that's always fun. 4 Valor Emblems (whatever the hell those are) and some fun experience.

On a different note, it's really quite annoying trying to find out the best gear I can get pre-naxx. One site says one thing, Rawr says another thing, and all the data is skewed and all over the place. Rawr actually suggested something would be better than what I had, when what I had had more SP, more stam, more int, and crit as the extra stat and the new item had mp5.

I don't want to have to sift through every single entry on Wowhead. Isn't there a centralized location that tells you "THIS IS THE BEST YOU CAN GET BEFORE YOU START RAIDING."?

Maybe some kind of WoW wiki