Halo 3

[ddr_f4n]

Re: Halo 3

Halo sucks.
Buy The Orange Box, or go to hell.
It's your choice.

Really thinking of buying one myself, but I'm happy with Halo 3 anyways. I might buy it for the holidays though.

PS: Halo 3 doesn't suck.

[Telvanni_guard]

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I'd like to ask why Halo (the original) is considered overhyped? It took a control scheme (that's still used in most shooters today), added vehicles you could drive in the campaign, allowed for a two player campaign (that more games are introducing now.. thank god), and was fairly basic so that anyone could play it and still have fun. And I don't remember it being all that hyped about when it came out.

Overhype is an overused bull**** term anyway. "I don't like the game because it's overhyped." Oh really? You're so right, I like games because they're overhyped. Does that mean you won't play a game that's actually good because it's overhyped? Can only the under the radar games be the only good games? What the hell man?.. But.. I'm getting off-topic.


I didn't start liking Halo until... well.. I guess the first time I bought it. I remember buying it for about $20 or such. I don't really remember why I even bought the thing. Probably because a friend had it and kept talking about how great it was and I'm one of those "Play it to believe it kind of guys." I can't describe it, but I really liked the game. Run, shoot, throw grenades, jump high, dodge, fun fun fun.

Halo 2 on the other hand, I never really liked. It seemed more sparatic than Halo. Probably because of the changing to the arbiter and back and the distinct lack of an Assault Rifle. Or maybe it was the fact that I was never good at the multiplayer on it. Not even close to good unless it was guarding something.. but that's the easier point of the game I guess.

And now out comes Halo 3 which I already decided I was going to get a while ago if not for the fact that I wanted a game I could play with more than 7 friends. (Gears) And a game I could go through with my sister and she'd actually like. The campaign is good for a few run-throughs. Once to play the game, and another to better understand the story. And another to play around with a friend or three in.

Multiplayer campaigns are probably one of the best things to ever be included in a video game. Loved them ever since Perfect Dark (Goldeneye clone but.. myeh. Laptop gun.) and am really happy about having them more in games. If you have a brother or sister, I suggest getting at least the first one and see if you like it. If you do, you'll love Halo 3's...

About the multiplayer, I don't know what I can say as to why I like it, I just do.


Maybe that's what Halo 3 is. It's one of those games you just have to play. If you like it, that's cool. If you don't, that's cool too.

Don't get bought into the BS that is "overhyped games suck". Try it yourself, then if you don't like it, you can actually tell people why.

[Squeek]

Re: Halo 3

It's overrated.

People give it credit for innovation in fields where it is not innovative. Like you just did.

All of the things people credit Halo for being the "first" to do had been done before. All of it.

The game is horribly easy and takes no skill at all. I never once found myself hiding behind a rock or a tree or whatever to try to scope out the situation or protect from oncoming fire. All you had to do was run in with the assault rifle after throwing a grenade and everything dies.

Not only that, but the campaign is pathetically short. FPSes can be so much longer than 6-10 hours. I don't know why it has become a trend these days, but I'm quite sick of it. They load the disc up with multi-player features and crap like that.

If you want to see why the FPS fans of this site call Halo overrated, then you simply have to play the following games.

1) Story - Bioshock / Half-Life / Half-Life 2
2) Multiplayer - Unreal Tournament / UT2004
3) Puzzle - Portal
4) Control scheme - Metroid Prime 3

[Telvanni_guard]

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And I'm saying Halo came out before those games. The original Halo. The only one off the top of my head that it may not have been before is Half-life. But then again.. I never said the story was all that great.

Halo 3 is not a god in it's generation by any means, but it is a good game. Worthy of an 8 (8.5.. tomayto, tomahto) in my opinion, but not a 10. Does that mean it's overhyped? Yeah it does, but not by much. The campaign does seem alot easier than In Halo or Halo 2 but I'm guessing it was just scaling back from the difficulty of the other two. On the original and the second one, I found it hard to get past the first freaking level. On this, the levels sure kicked my ass, but I got through them eventually.

Wait.. throw a grenade then run in? What the hell were you playing? I've tried that before and ended up having my shields torn to pieces before I was even halfway into the damn room. Unless you tried it on an easier difficulty, in which case I agree. It is too easy. Then again, maybe you're just good at shooters.

The reason why I think the opinions of people on this board believe that Halo is overhyped is because they own other consoles or more importantly a gaming PC. I personally think that each game should be judged on it's own merit. Not what came behind it.. but that won't happen.

Offhand, does Bioshock really take off from System Shock 2 as much as I've heard it does?


I guess my main point is that Halo 3 is a good game. It doesn't deserve to be thrown to the ground and kicked.
It's not as "outstanding" as the hype says, but it's not bad either.

[MrRubix]

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who the hell cares

it's fun.

[Squeek]

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I'm not saying Halo borrowed from those games. I'm saying that those are way, way better games.

Also, Half-Life and Unreal Tournament came out before we even started writing our years with a "2" in the front.

[Telvanni_guard]

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I believe that. Half-life 2 was amazing. Bioshock was wonderful. Haven't played Prime. Unreal is a godly series in it's own right. Portal just looks amazing with physics from what I've seen.

Of course there are better games, but Halo 3 isn't a bad game. It's overhyped for sure, but the overhype isn't all that much. It has a good story, good multiplayer, good customization, and is a great "party" game. Having all that in one game is probably the reason it sold so well. If I had known The Orange Box was coming out two weeks after.. I would have delayed my buy on Halo 3. Mainly because I want Half-life 2 to be redeemed from it's Xbox loadfest that I hated so bad.


And didn't know that about Unreal Tournament. Then again.. I'm in love with Championship.

[XPYRYMYNT]

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Idea specific to Halo: the shield and recharging system.

And Sqeek I found the part of your post where you said it was too easy and doesn't require skill really funny. If you dedicated your life to getting good at Halo, I'd guartuntee you still couldn't hang with the best players.

[l2awr]

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No point in arguing with him. Hes really ignorant.

[fido123]

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Idea specific to Halo: the shield and recharging system.

There were countless games before that which had health that regenerated but it wasn't a shield. Who really gives a crap about what is making your health regenerate.

And Sqeek I found the part of your post where you said it was too easy and doesn't require skill really funny.

He said campaign was easy and it is. You can't really rate the difficulty of multilayer games because they are other people and not part of the game...this goes for ALL multilayer games.

If you dedicated your life to getting good at Halo, I'd guartuntee you still couldn't hang with the best players.

When dumb shits say things like this, I die a little inside. That there is the most retarded argument known to man to date.

[XPYRYMYNT]

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There were countless games before that which had health that regenerated but it wasn't a shield. Who really gives a crap about what is making your health regenerate.





He said campaign was easy and it is. You can't really rate the difficulty of multilayer games because they are other people and not part of the game...this goes for ALL multilayer games.






When dumb shits say things like this, I die a little inside. That there is the most retarded argument known to man

Dumb****s, huh? By the way he said it was easy, then the next sentence started out talking about campaign led me to believe the previous sentences were about multiplayer. And I believe I'd be the most knowledgable one on these forums about FPS skill and what is a good competitive shooter. So considering none of you have any experience with Halo on a professionally competitive level, I can understand why you wouldn't say it's a good game. I admit that Halo 2 wasn't a very good game and I pretty much only played it for the money. As of now, I'd consider Halo 3 to be a well-balanced multiplayer game, though. Several of you have not much basis to bash it for. It just annoys me that the reasoning all of you have for Halo being a bad game is because it's popular. How does that make any sense? You're probably the same kind of people that dislike certain bands and musicians simply because they're popular.

[fido123]

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Who says I don't like the mutliplayer in Halo3. Also I HIGHLY DOUBT you are an FPS guru. Don't just assume your the best FPS guy on these forums simply because you beat Halo campaign on Difficult okay?

[Squeek]

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What makes you think you're the biggest expert on FPSes? Arrogance?

Why does competitive gaming matter at all? As I said in another thread, all that means is that you're playing with people who spend more time on one game than others. There's an upper limit to video games unlike real-life competition, like professional sports.

Where did I say "Halo is a bad game because it's popular"? I said Halo was a bad game because the campaign is pathetic. It's only worse in my opinion because the fanboys who try to justify the horrible campaign by claiming its originality are insistent that it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

[fido123]

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Why does competitive gaming matter at all? As I said in another thread, all that means is that you're playing with people who spend more time on one game than others. There's an upper limit to video games unlike real-life competition, like professional sports.

Can't you apply 'Time spent = Experience" to sports as well as video games? I know there's also technique and stuff but that can also be applied.

[ShAiOnEi]

Re: Halo 3

Halo 3<Metal Gear