Halo 3

[PunkNJunk]

Re: Halo 3

You need a network. It's just like hooking up a bunch of computers in a LAN party.

Get a router and some CAT5 cables, and hook 'er up.

Alright, thanks man.

[MagicCarpetRide]

Re: Halo 3

I posted that PAGES ago. AND I answered many questions related to it in following posts.

Simple. Do 9.2 million / 6.5 billion.

Seriously, not good statistics.

Tell me the percentage of people in North America between the ages of 15 and 25.
Obviously no one in China cares about halo 3.

[spartanumaw]

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How many times am I going to have to say this.

Show me the line where I wrote "Halo 3 is a bad game."

What I wrote there was "Halo 3 was clearly designed solely for a multi-player experience and even fans of Halo understand that."

if this is wat he said then why is everybody ripping on him
he is right bungie even announced that on there website quite some time ago
they said that halo 3 is going more for multiplayer enjoyment instead of campaign

[Squeek]

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Seriously, not good statistics.

Tell me the percentage of people in North America between the ages of 15 and 25.
Obviously no one in China cares about halo 3.

You would be surprised.

Why does it matter that I get the statistics for a specific age group? First of all, it's impossible. Nobody tracks individual video game sales data based on age demographic. Second of all, it's a meaningless statistic.

Yeah, so, Halo 3 sold out in some stores in Japan. In other stores, it didn't sell a single copy. Like I said, you'd be surprised.

[lumphoboextreme]

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good game. i spent about 2 hours playing yesterday

[sertman]

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hah i'm amazing

[sertman]

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and i didn't read the rest of the thread besides the first three pages but squeek comparing super mario bros. to halo 2 sales doesn't work. smb is a very kid oriented game in an era where the target audience for video games was preteens-teens. not to mention it came out on the super nintendo, which at the time was the only successful console on the market.

on the other hand we have halo 2. an M rated shooting game. right off the bat you can eliminate most of the preteen crowd and about a fourth of the teen crowd that wasn't already lost to the gamecube and playstation 2. and halo 2 is an xbox game. the playstation 2 kicked its ass in sales and the gamecube wasn't too far ahead if i remember correctly. so an M rated game on a third place console is being compared to a very clean game on the only major game console out? i don't follow.

and lets not forget that halo 2 was the premier console competitive game. the top MLG Halo 2 players make $250,000 a year. for every one of MLG's events 120 teams of 4 players pay $240 each to play in the MLG Lan events. so this game is not insignificant in the least. this is a game that was able to pull over 75,000 players playing at all times 3 years after it's release. last night at 2 AM there were 550,000 people playing halo 3 online. what are you trying to prove?

[kohaku9]

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Halo 3 Was Awsome.

[tofurox]

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It is allot of fun!!!! I love the forge, it is fun making respawn points in strange places, and teleporter mazez own!

[MagicCarpetRide]

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Just beat it.
The last level was a joke.
My mom could've beat it on heroic.

[flashman41]

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How am I ruining your experience in any way?

Since when have threads about games, movies, shows, websites, etc. been completely positive? Since when have you been a non-debater?

If everyone restrained themselves to the "nothing nice to say" rule, every single thread would be a sugar-coated worthless crapfest. I have never once say "HALO 3 IS A BAD GAME AND YOU'RE ALL IDIOTS FOR PAYING MONEY TO HAVE IT." I'm saying "If you like single-player experiences, consider renting Halo 3 instead of paying $60 to play a 7-hour campaign."

Personally, I tend to hate multi-player games. Counter Strike is a terrible game, especially when compared to Half-Life. Why? Because of all the jerks on the network for the game ruining the experience for everyone else. I've heard bad experiences with Halo 3 already in this thread. People who want to unsubscribe to XBL as a result. I absolutely love Unreal Tournament 2004, but I wouldn't dare play it online. I play it over a LAN with my friends, but that's the extent of my multi-player experience.

Single-player games or local-multiplayer games (Read: all 4 players on one console) are much more of my style. That should be obvious considering I owned a Gamecube and now a Wii instead of the online-based PS3 and 360 consoles.

I'll just put it in plain, large text right now. Halo 3 is not a bad game. It just has a pathetic single-player experience, which is what I look for in a game. Therefore, even though Halo is not a bad game, it is not my cup of tea.

Squeek, I've been around these forums for quite a while and post infrequently. I've read the whole thread and have lost a bit of respect for you based on what I've seen.

What do you really want to accomplish here? This whole thread it seems that you've been doing a few things fairly out of character for someone of mod status. I'm not bashing your modship, I'm just pointing out that much more is expected out of moderators than regular posters, and what you've posted in this thread is surprising to me.

1. Telling people that they are misinterpreting or misreading what you are saying. Ironic. Let's read what started this all.

This may be hard to believe, but only 0.1% of the entire population of the world owns Halo 2. That means 99.9% of the population of the world either has no idea what Halo is or doesn't have any interest in owning it.

So, 1 out of 1000 people own Halo 2. And everyone who doesn't own Halo 2 either has no idea what Halo is or doesn't have any interest owning it? What about the people who know what Halo is and don't own it? What about the people who don't have the money to buy it, but have interest in owning it? Am I misinterpreting what you have said?

This shouldn't matter, and the amount of time that was taken to argue over this was more than it should have been. Not only you, but those who argued against you are at fault here. It's irrelevant to the original topic of this thread. What even provoked you saying this? The original poster, and one of the other posters before you on the first page are definitely hardcore Halo fans (XYPYRYMYNT and The5thMoon), who are obviously very excited for the new game. So you decide to point out that a very small percentage of the world's population even knows about the existence of Halo? Should they care?

2. Claiming to not having said Halo is a bad game. Why do you keep saying that you haven't said Halo 3 is a bad game? What constitutes a logical translation into "bad game"? Let's see what you have said.

HALO 3 IS A BAD GAME AND YOU'RE ALL IDIOTS FOR PAYING MONEY TO HAVE IT.

Just kidding, obviously this was used in an entirely different context.

My opinion is that Halo is overrated.

A very respectul response. Something I expected from you. It's entirely fine to think this, and I have no problem with it.

But you said this:

I have never once say "HALO 3 IS A BAD GAME AND YOU'RE ALL IDIOTS FOR PAYING MONEY TO HAVE IT."

You don't have to say those exact words to be saying that halo is not a good game. A few posters have interpreted your opinions on the game, I believe, correctly.

It's been said to have past-gen graphics. Graphics that can't compare to most games on the Xbox 360. Graphics that can't even compare to Metroid Prime.

A legitimate fact. Support for your opinion of Halo not being as good a game as others that you prefer. There's nothing wrong with not liking the game!

Halo 3 is not a bad game. It just has a pathetic single-player experience, which is what I look for in a game. Therefore, even though Halo is not a bad game, it is not my cup of tea.

What is a bad game? In essence, there are no bad games, just opinions on games. There's nothing wrong with the fact that you don't like any of the halo games. You claim to have given them a chance, and disliked them. That's fine. But just don't deny ever saying that.

Halo 2 is just as bad as Counter Strike in the large scale of things.

Is this not saying Halo is bad?

Let's move on.

Say a game gets five million pre-orders. Then the game is released and nobody buys it. It gets five million sold copies. Yes, it had a lot of pre-orders, but that doesn't change the fact that the only people who wanted the game were people who pre-order.

Say another game gets ten pre-orders. Ten. But it sells forty million copies.

Which game did better? One was "record-breaking!!!!" and had massive hype, but it ended up selling less than the other game. Get my point yet?

This hypothetical situation makes sense, but is very unrealistic. Pre-orders are like opening night for movies. They pretty much decide how successful the game or movie is going to be. Although of course they can't predict a precise number, they're fairly accurate for about what kind of revenue will be generated.

Squeek, I think you need to be a little less aggressive with your views. It seems as though you are a bit stubborn; I don't see you as someone who will admit defeat, or their own fault. Although I acknowledge your modship as entirely legitimate, I hope you'll think about what I've said and at least recognize some of your mistakes for later discussions.

[zidart]

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flashman that speech is awesome

i want to point out that i don't have halo 2 or 3 but still i want it, and i know a lot of people in my same situation.

also flashman "What is a bad game? In essence, there are no bad games, just opinions on games. There's nothing wrong with the fact that you don't like any of the halo games. You claim to have given them a chance, and disliked them. That's fine. But just don't deny ever saying that."
bad games don't exist (except that game of trucks with no AI and physics, i forgot the name) i mean sure a lot of people hate Dora the explorer, but little kids love that game, and sonic games a lot more people hate them but i enjoy sonic games, fanboyism or not i still enjoy it.

[flashman41]

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flashman that speech is awesome

i want to point out that i don't have halo 2 or 3 but still i want it, and i know a lot of people in my same situation.

also flashman "What is a bad game? In essence, there are no bad games, just opinions on games. There's nothing wrong with the fact that you don't like any of the halo games. You claim to have given them a chance, and disliked them. That's fine. But just don't deny ever saying that."
bad games don't exist (except that game of trucks with no AI and physics, i forgot the name) i mean sure a lot of people hate Dora the explorer, but little kids love that game, and sonic games a lot more people hate them but i enjoy sonic games, fanboyism or not i still enjoy it.

Exactly. Some people like it, other's don't. That's why I wanted to point out that essentially a game can't be determined bad.

I'm not going to get into this right now, but I've heard of a lot of discussion about opinions about music, getting into the subject of the "quality" of the music, while one would resign from arguing that a certain musical group is "bad", but rather just of a lower quality.

Perhaps the same as comparing, for example, a two-dimensional Super Mario game on the original GameBoy to the three-dimensional Super Mario Sunshine on GameCube. Perhaps someone enjoys the original black and white game for it's simplicity, they can't argue that the "quality" per se of the Super Mario Sunshine game trumps the original.

[zidart]

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same thing with halo 3, yeah sure it may be the same thing as halo 2 but a lot of people like it better that way (and also i like the fact that zelda games are not really different from each other) and a lot of people like the short campain just for the co-op.

[[TeRa]]

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i didnt like it, that just my opinion.
i dont have any real strict reasons, i just dont like it all that much, ill give it some time, i know it will grow on me.