My Oblivion CD died....

[GuidoHunter]

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excuse me

"Hm, I think I'll wander out and kill a rat. Ah, there's one. Why the **** can't I hit it? It's right at my feet, nibbling away! Ah, finally, I got one hit in for three damage. Time for sixty more swings until my next hit. Oh, ****, it's about to kill me. I should go back to town. Oh, but I can't run there because I get fatigued, so I have to walk for a half hour.

"Hm. I think I'll travel to the next town to make some money. Better stock up on four thousand arrows, though; they can actually do some damage if I ever hit. Okay, there's the local police, an Ordinator. Now, I'll just jump into this elevated plant pot where he can't get to me. Now, shoot him once. Oh, he's pissed, but he can't hit me! Now, shoot him three hundred more times [that number isn't an exaggeration], and he's dead! Okay, pick up all his stuff, first. Then go around the corner, drop it, pay of my minor fine for killing a law enforcement officer, then go grab my loot and head back home to sell it.

"Okay, I'm here. Now, I'll go to my local merchant and sell off all this nice armor. What? You can only give me so much money at a time? So I have to leave the store and come back, selling each thing off individually, buying enough stuff to cover the gap between what it's worth and what you can pay me, and then doing it again for another piece? **** you, old man.

"Well, this town bores me. I think I'll slaughter everyone in it just to make this game interesting. Okay, that was easy. Well, I can't do this in the next town because there's too much police. That's okay, though, I've got a story-progressing person in my house.

"Hey, dude, I'd like a quest."

"Okay, first you-- HEY, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING?!"

"Oh, I'm sorry, I wanted to lay down in my bed, but the target changed too quickly on me and I accidentally picked some of your things up. An honest mistake, sorry."

"DIE!!"

"What the hell! Just what the hell! I'm outta here! Okay, I've left. Maybe he's cooled down."

"DIE!!"

"Well, ****, it's either kill or be killed. Hey, zombie, come help me."

'Ugh..."

"Okay, he's dead. I still want that quest, though... Maybe if I poke his corpse... No? Well, I'm screwed."

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[TheRapingDragon]

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Morrowind starts of so incredibly slow, yes. Hell your speed takes about 20 hours to get half way decent, but once you get past all that it has a hell of a lot more to offer.

You have unique weapons / armours / etc to find, you can equip more body parts. The mudcrab merchant. The random easter eggs. The two kickass expansion packs, being a werewolf, more variety in areas (ashlands for example).

Morrowind just had more.

That and you couldn't just go "ok I have a quest, I'll just go to my map, click on the nearest location to where the quest is, ZOOM, I'm there, do quest, open map to ZOOM back, quest over".

Morrowind had mark and recall, but forced you to make your way to your quest and back, which is not only proper, but ended up with you exploring far more than in oblivion.

[MagicCarpetRide]

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My friend tripped and kicked his 360 over while he was playing a game that he borrowed from his friend. Ha it made a noise like a lawnmower starting up. It was great.

p.s. I played oblivion for about 77ish hours. I played Morrowind for maybe 30 and stopped. Some poeple have different preferences i guess.

[Telvanni_guard]

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Oddly enough.. most of the things Guido says he found annoying aren't in Oblivion. Strange.

You always hit provided you are in range to hit. Damage is determined by Strength, Weapon Damage, and your current Fatigue.

Not sure. But I think the fine for killing an enforcement officer is something like 1,000 some odd gold. Or maybe that's just murder in general.

This time the selling process is a bit different. The sellers have a certain amount of gold (that can change with your mercantile skill) that you can sell up to. Say you have 2 items worth 1500. Certain sellers may have 800. So you could sell each one for 800 a piece. Others may have 1500. So you can sell both pieces for the full 1500. This total (from what I've seen) doesn't go down. But does vary.

It can still be easy to slaughter a town. Just depends on where they are. I guess I should note that all NPCs level up as you do. From their skills to their weapon types.

More good news. People usually give you a warning to leave their house if you've accidentally or purposefully broken in. You can even usually talk to them. If you do it too many times, they may either attack you or call the guards. More good news. You can hold the block button and 'talk' to the person to get them to yield. If they like you enough then they'll stop.

Also. People who are used in quests have a crown on them when you'd normally talk to them. This means you cannot kill that character, only knock them unconcious. It will lower their disposition towards your character if you do knock them out though.


I personally like Oblivion more than Morrowind. Morrowind too often tried to get me to cheat. Either through swapping or raising my Alchemy to 100 and making insane amounts of money in seconds using the same vendor. Loved Morrowind though. I liked being able to run around Unarmored with Hand to Hand and be a considerable force. Sigh.

[TheRapingDragon]

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or raising my Alchemy to 100 and making insane amounts of money in seconds using the same vendor. Loved Morrowind though. I liked being able to run around Unarmored with Hand to Hand and be a considerable force. Sigh.

Can do exactly the same thing in Oblivion, alchemy to 100 (was my first stat to 100) and mega-potions for huge profit. Concerning force, I'm guessing you never had your difficulty bar up to 100 then? Because doing what you said would then be pretty damn difficult.

[Reach]

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I thought oblivion could have been so much better. It was kind of repetitive. Even though you had this massive world so much of it was the same and most of it uninteresting.

Might I add that I kept getting killed in the oblivion towers XD Why the hell did the game go from cake to a slaughter fest. Not to mention once you beat it then you don't really get anything special, there's no bosses or anything ;( and then you just rinse, wash and repeat the process.

Same with the optional dungeons and stuff. Maybe I was missing something but you got nothing from exploring the world. There are all these little dungeons all over the map, but you can wander through them for an hour and they're filled with nothing but useless chests with nothing of value in them.



I was highly impressed with oblivion for the first 10 hours or so...but then I kept waiting for it to keep expanding and keep getting cooler...which it didn't do. It flopped for me.

Still, admittingly it is a fun game to play now and then, and the only reason I am so harsh is because it could have been so much better. Overall it isn't a bad game, but a good one that could have been amazing ;o

[TheRapingDragon]

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I thought oblivion could have been so much better. It was kind of repetitive. Even though you had this massive world so much of it was the same and most of it uninteresting.

Trees, trees, oh look a tower, trees, trees, another tower, trees, town, trees.

Might I add that I kept getting killed in the oblivion towers XD Why the hell did the game go from cake to a slaughter fest.

Enemies level up with you, if you level up the wrong stats then it can get impossible, like if you were to only level up agility and acrobatics and alchemy etc, the enemies would be stronger but you wouldn't, then you get wrecked.

Not to mention once you beat it then you don't really get anything special, there's no bosses or anything ;( and then you just rinse, wash and repeat the process.

But, but...you get the super duper cool awesome armour

Same with the optional dungeons and stuff. Maybe I was missing something but you got nothing from exploring the world. There are all these little dungeons all over the map, but you can wander through them for an hour and they're filled with nothing but useless chests with nothing of value in them.

You were missing nothing, there was about 5 unique things in oblivion, and even then they weren't cool or stronger or anything.

[ddr_f4n]

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Well I have Oblivion and I thnk its great. Something to play if my XBL doesn't work. I haven't played morrowind yet but with all these comments I should give it a try.

[darkphoenix117]

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The same thing happened to my cousin's Perfect Dark disc. His dog skid around the corner in the kitchen and ran into the stand the xbox was on. He barely moved it, but we took out the disc and looked at it and the whole inside half of the disc was all perfectly round scratches.

I haven't played morrowind yet but with all these comments I should give it a try.

Yeah I haven't played Morrowind either, but everyone else says it's such a great game so I'm thinking of trying it now.

[Tokzic]

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There were approximately the same number of uniques in Oblivion. The problem is that over half of them were worthless in comparison to a decent enchant on Daedric.

Speaking of Daedric, that had to be the biggest piss-off for me about Oblivion. You start out going "oh man I really want some of that Daedric equipment". You work your way up the ladder - Dwarven, Elven, glass, etc. etc.

Finally, the big day! You hit L20! Huttah!

Five spawns later you have full Daedric and nothing can touch you anymore. What the ****ing ****. In Morrowind, if I found a single piece of Daedric armour, I'd flip. In Oblivion, you hit L20, and you get approximately three full sets and a load of weapons in every set of ruins. It killed all sense of accomplishment.

I didn't have any problem with the difficulty curve and would probably say that it was too easy, but a lot of mods out there fix both the difficulty curve and the equipment problems very well. Shame I got it on 360. =(

[Telvanni_guard]

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Can do exactly the same thing in Oblivion, alchemy to 100 (was my first stat to 100) and mega-potions for huge profit. Concerning force, I'm guessing you never had your difficulty bar up to 100 then? Because doing what you said would then be pretty damn difficult.

There was a difficulty slider in Morrowind? Hell. Never knew. Hand to Hand was pretty effective though. Punch them enough, so their fatigue was going down bit by bit, they fall. You beat on them, they stand, you punch them, they fall. Repeat. Good times. Good times.

[TheRapingDragon]

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Yes, there was a difficulty bar in Morrowind. As far as I can remember, at 50 (preset) you did 100% damage, they did 100% damage. At 100 (hardest) they did 200% damage and you did 50% damage.

Fun.