MapleStory

[Godnick]

Re: MapleStory

We actually don't really if you play smart. Mages have teleport while archers have puppet. Hermits have FJ too. Only ranged class that gets hit are clerics but what does that really matter?

O_o

No, it doesn't really matter, Warriors suck, I think I'm going to make a new character and be a mage, since it sounds really cool

[banditcom]

Re: MapleStory

Ok thanks a lot. Anywhere I try to go as a warrior, there's always an archer or a mage killing them before I get to a monster, so annoying.

It almost seems worthless for warriors to exist, when archers and mage's never even get hit.

Early levels are far different than 60-80 and 80+.


All hermit Zakum:
Part 1: http://youtube.com/watch?v=NGB4BKSOE80
Part 2: http://youtube.com/watch?v=BaN2x5JP09A

[Nevlusti]

Re: MapleStory

Warriors are the up close fighters, and yes they get hit a lot, but thats why we have 2x+ more health than any of the other classes. And if you have all classes fighting and working together, the support for each other is ungodly. Warriors are a necessity in the party fighting world.

(spearman ftw)

[Fimbulvetr]

Re: MapleStory

the only annoying things about Warriors (i have a 35 Fighter) is that they have terrible accuracy and avoidability, and low MP.

other then that, they are damage machines. .

Warriors are pretty weak 1st and 2nd job compared to the other classes though (Sin/archer can hit 5k+ on a single attack at 60, no way a warrior can do that), but their melee ability allows them to train in areas such as FoG without a "whacking problem"

3rd job warriors 0wn though.

[Afrobean]

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All hermit Zakum:
Part 1: http://youtube.com/watch?v=NGB4BKSOE80
Part 2: http://youtube.com/watch?v=BaN2x5JP09A

See it's things like that that really make me wonder why everyone wants priests for healing. And hell, even Dispel can be replaced by all cures.

ps lul @ "alter"

[reddarkd]

Re: MapleStory

Never could get the game to work

[vpr0721]

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Warriors are pretty weak 1st and 2nd job compared to the other classes though (Sin/archer can hit 5k+ on a single attack at 60, no way a warrior can do that), but their melee ability allows them to train in areas such as FoG without a "whacking problem"

3rd job warriors 0wn though.

Ya but that 5k is pretty rare, dont forget that sins and archers hit very very low as well like an attack could be 500+500, then the next can be 2500 +2500, so it evens out.

[ckj846]

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Warriors don't average around 3k damage at that level every attack. Archers and Sins are way more stable.

O_o

[Afrobean]

Re: MapleStory

Warriors don't average around 3k damage at that level every attack. Archers and Sins are way more stable.

O_o

Sins and archers have crits to do their damage, so their true overall mastery is actually much lower than Warriors. I would think that you of all people would realize this.

[ckj846]

Re: MapleStory

I guess I worded it wrong. Damage output is generally higher for archers and sins. Not stability.

O_o

[banditcom]

Re: MapleStory



Nice. -Mage

[Fimbulvetr]

Re: MapleStory

Ya but that 5k is pretty rare, dont forget that sins and archers hit very very low as well like an attack could be 500+500, then the next can be 2500 +2500, so it evens out.

The 5k isnt all that rare., im 67 and i hit over 7k max on a DS. Minimum dmg is pretty low at 1300ish. On average though,

At 66, without attack pots my range was 785-1389 (With was like 8xx-1520ish) Now the avg there is 1087 dmg which will be used in calculations

Its 16% for 2 crits so 2 x 2.3 (DS dmg +100% crit dmg bonus) x 1087 x (60-100% damage due to mastery) 3000-5000 (avg 4000) = 4000 dmg.

48% one crit is 2.3 (DS dmg +100% crit dmg bonus) x 1087 x (60-100% damage due to mastery) + 1.3 (130% DS dmg) x (60-100% damage due to mastery) x 1087 = 1500-2500 (avg 2000) + 847-1413 (avg 1130)= 3130 dmg with one crit.

36% for no crits so 2 (2 shots) x1.3 (130% DS dmg) x (60-100% damage due to mastery) x 1087 = 1695-2826, with an avg dmg of 2260 with no crits.

So my average damage would be 4000 x .16 + 3130 x .48 + 2260 x .36 = 2956 damage on average without attack pots.


The strongest warrior on the basil dmg thread (60-69 fighter) has a range of 1158-2074 at lv 67 which is 1616 avg.

With powerstrike and mastery.
2521 -4201 = 3361 dmg on avg.

However he is dexless, which is a huge increase in his dmg.

Since I also use a lv 65 Str-less bow, if I was a str-less archer, I would have 52 more points of dex into my damage range, rasing my damage range by around 175 points, which would make my avg dmg higher than his. In addition, attack pots affect a sin/archer's dmg more than a warrior as their dmg is applied twice.

Moral of the story, the warrior class does less dmg than the archer/dit/sin class 2nd job, and they lack range as well in comparison to archers/sins.

Edit:

Lol, like one week after the all-archer zakum run, the hermits have to best them XD.

[Afrobean]

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Nice. -Mage

Notice how I went up a rank without doing jack ****.

[Tokzic]

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oh god i'm starting maple story again what's the matter with me

[Lain_Iwakura]

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oh god i'm starting maple story again what's the matter with me

****ing kill yourself before it's too late