MapleStory

[B0NK]

Re: MapleStory

You think they hacked to do that?

Are you ****ing retarded?

Gtfo.

[MagicCarpetRide]

Re: MapleStory

Ummm, I think you should read a few pages back, I never said they hacked. What makes you think that?\
Nothing in my previous post related to that vodeo. I just thought it was a cool vid from a while back.

[evilbutterfly]

Re: MapleStory

Technically one of the people in that video has a hacker account. But he's good with it and doesn't flood the economy with mesos or take nice training spots during peak hours.

And that's really the only bad things that hackers do that are worth getting angry about.

[MagicCarpetRide]

Re: MapleStory

Technically one of the people in that video has a hacker account. But he's good with it and doesn't flood the economy with mesos or take nice training spots during peak hours.

And that's really the only bad things that hackers do that are worth getting angry about.

But they do it all the ****ING time, and that makes me angry.

[ckj846]

Re: MapleStory

roger that, That's a big 10/4

Over and out

I'm going to school anyways right now, I just won't come back, This thread is too........hacker...ful...

Oh.

O_o

[Xception704]

Re: MapleStory

MCR, it's not about if I support hacking. It's about being pro-life if you want to get into that.

Telling someone to go die because you don't like something that they do ... well, just go re-read some of those people's responses.

Dang ... I don't mean to bring up the topic again.

I can't find a clean avg+ codar ... =(

[MagicCarpetRide]

Re: MapleStory

Oh.

O_o

Yeah you caught me there.
I lose.
BUt that doesn't mean that the hackers win.

[Xception704]

Re: MapleStory

... um ... just shut up and drop it.

So what should I do? Max Dragon, then go into Doom, or do Doom, then Dragon (I've already put a few points into it), or what?

[ckj846]

Re: MapleStory

Doom for fun. Dragon if you want to go for boss runs and such.

O_o

[banditcom]

Re: MapleStory

For a while now I have been telling you all that we have “Hacking Detection”. I hinted that we have been watching. I expressed how serious we are about getting rid of hacking in the game. It seems many people still have not gotten the hint. So, we have decided to adapt our methods a bit. For several months now we have been logging all hacking that has happened in-game.

Since these logs were implemented we have been running tests and scenarios to determine the accuracy of these logs. As of this time we have not found any false positives in these logs.

Additionally, we have run several control scenarios in which players during late hours were found in-game hacking. We waited to ban them until the next day during known work hours. This lead to several claims of “Legit Bans” of course, this was wrong, as we had the evidence in hand.

Out of the thousands of accounts we have looked into at this point, I have only found a couple accounts that were actually wrongfully banned. And those were either related to KSing hackers, or leeching from a hacker, which we have informed players not to do in the past.

I think many of the members of the Maple community who read the forums can probably remember some of the effects of this. Yes, this is why we saw such a rash in “Legit” claims, and also why we could prove these were false with videos. We have found that the "Legit" claims stem from bans that take place in any way different than normal. For example, when our weekend shifts ban people, when we ban on verified logs, and when we ban FM hackers. These all receive "Legit" complaints, because these individuals did not think they could have been caught as they weren't disconnected while they were actually hacking. Obviously, this isn”t the case.

On that note, I have a few announcements. Starting today we are banning out of our logs, almost exclusively. As all hacking in the game gets logged, there stands to be a great deal of players banned. If you are hacking, you are going to be banned. This will continue until the implementation of an auto banning system. Don”t think bypassing gameguard is going to save anybody, gameguard is not the tool used to log, this strictly server-side.

Unfortunately we can not implement permanent bans at this time. That time is coming soon as well, but we aren”t quite there yet. However we have adapted to this as well. From here on out we are also implementing hack severity ratings. This means, the more we see that you have hacked, the longer you will be banned. Many players received up to 90 day bans today. This is not the most severe penalty, only the most severe issued today.

I also need to announce that Rank Blocking has been put into place. All players banned for hacking will now be taken off the rankings permanently, regardless of severity rating.

Finally we would like to announce that we will be banning guilds in their entirety if we believe them to encourage illegal activity. This means, if a hacker is in your guild, and you are NOT a hacker, you need to kick them out immediately.

Guild leaders are responsible for the members of their guild in ALL activities. You are the role model and the authority figure. If your guild rules do not encourage fair play, you might want to implement that rule now. If your guild is a problem, it will be banned.

These bans will take place with or without warning depending on severity. This does not mean that just because one person got banned for hacking the whole guild gets banned. But it does mean that if we believe that the guild is a problem, it will be resolved.

We are committed to fixing this situation. While we have been focused on hackers, many players have taken advantage of our decreased presence when dealing with Community Standards, harassment and other in-game issues. This stops today.

KSing, holding maps (i.e. Zakum), foul language, harassment, scamming, mass defaming; these will all be met with 30 day bans from now on. Additionally, all accounts tied to your account will also be given a 30 day ban, as well as your entire guild in some cases.

Many players are expressing their frustrations over the hacking and general “drama” going on in-game right now. We appreciate all of the suggestions, comments and constructive criticism. Not only does it help us focus, but it is always discussed, and often times used to determine priorities.

The Maple Community has been a strong force in our motivations on the decisions and policies implemented today. We have a lot of work to do, and we thank you for your continued support.

-The MapleStory Staff-

Oh and cheating on single player games = fine, no harm done.
Cheating on multiplayer games, especially where there is an economy = piss off.

[ToshX]

Re: MapleStory

Nexon and their nonsense. Many people can interrupt the logs and stop them from being sent. Is it legal? Well no, but will Nexon ever take action? Probably not. They never have, and thousands know how to do it.

All they're doing is getting rid of the stupid hackers. That's what they've always been doing.

To make that simple for everyone, they're wasting their time until they think of a real solution, or just stalling it until they do.

[Tibs]

Re: MapleStory

I wouldn't mind if they only banned stupid hackers. The smart ones don't make a nuisance of themselves.

[Afrobean]

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Yeah, Tibs is right. We're talking about the difference between a smart hacker who makes no more of an impact on the ecnomy and rankings than any average legit, just in a shorter time, and a leecher who ruins the economy and has a serious adverse effect on the community. The "hackers" that everyone really hates are the stupid leechers. The ones who use guides to "hack". Those are the ones who cause the most problems. Farming, vacking mobs into afks, etc. etc.

I'd like for all hacking to be gone, but realistically, that's basically impossible. Getting rid of the leechers is more than satisfactory.

And if all hack detection is SERVERSIDE like that post there says this is, the only way to beat it would be REAL hacking, which is not only illegal, but if they were to hack the server so that they don't get caught, they might as well hack the server and change their level manually instead of cheating to get more exp. Or for that matter, they should hack a bank server and give themself 20 million dollars.

ps Promises Delivered? I'll try to be optimistic, but I wouldn't be surprised if this was just as full of crap as it was months ago.

pps

KSing, holding maps (i.e. Zakum), foul language, harassment, scamming, mass defaming; these will all be met with 30 day bans from now on.

Shouldn't we be able to report for "active kill stealing", "holding map unfairly", "foul language", "mass defaming" then? If they want to threaten bans for those things we should be able to report for them specifically.

[g4z33b0]

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"Holding maps" as in smuggle PQs?

[Afrobean]

Re: MapleStory

No as in a person hogging Zakum's altar so that other groups can't get in.

Or possibly sitting in a map and not killing and telling anyone who comes in to leave so that the map can be saved for someone else who will come in later for grinding, probably during 2x.

And if Nexon knows what they're doing, they'll fix the bug that allows for smuggling in PQs. Well, the problem, isn't the smuggling, it's the bringing them back in. The bug is that it should remove the items from EVERY party member's inventory, but at present it only clears the items out of the leader's.

I don't see why people think it's alright to abuse bugs and forced lag though. If I was a GM, I'd probably surf oPQ channels and ban anyone who smuggles in items.