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  • Afrobean
    Admiral in the Red Army
    • Dec 2003
    • 13262

    #13156
    Re: MapleStory



    5k is now within my reach. Best I managed without magic pot was 4950. Could probably touch 5k without, but didn't feel like taking the time. Wiz pot made me get it a lot faster... I got more than 5k multiple times before managing to catch it (it's a bit tough to screenshot while being careful to not die ). The main point here is I can touch 5k now. Hopefully I can get my earrings scrolled soon to make it so I can get 5k easily without extras.

    And Squeek, all of what you said is still valid. He just wanted to come in here and talk **** even though he, in reality, doesn't know as much as he boasts.

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    • banditcom
      FFR Player
      • Mar 2003
      • 6243

      #13157
      Re: MapleStory

      Originally posted by PangYa
      Just wanna bash your impression of a dit. You're gonna want to start out with getting double stab maxed then you want to add 3 to disorder and proceed with maxing dark sight. After that continue maxing disorder as it'll come in handy when you're surrounded by iron pigs or something. Now when you hit bandit you want to max out savage blow first thing. Anyone who says dagger mastery comes first is a complete moron (no offense). I compared my savage blow when not maxed to someone who had built mastery first and was 5 levels above me. I was far stronger than her and ended up dismissing her from helping me with cursed dolls as she was just getting in the way. After maxing savage blow THAT'S when you go into mastery. After mastery you wanna get haste up to 5 then start building steal or continue with haste. If you continue haste build it until it's 5 points away from maxed then start building steal so that you can get good equips and stuff. As for stat build on a bandit you're gonna want to start out like he said and build DEX up to 25 quickly. Then start pouring everything into LUK until you hit level 13. At 13 add 1 point to DEX and the remaining 4 into LUK. After that, add 2 points to DEX and 3 to LUK for the rest of the game.Take it from a pro.

      P.S. Squeek has no idea what he's talking about for the most part unfortunately. hidden-street.net will set you straight.
      Um max disorder? No. You max nimble body. Max SB first? LMFAO.. no.. Just no. You get mastery way up there before getting level 21 SB, finish mastery at 19, then finish off SB.

      You don't add dex and luk per level. That's stupid too. As a bandit, you don't need dex for a long time, excluding the initial 25. The low level dagger will do until you get a kfan which requires no dex. And when you add dex, you don't add a little each level. Say in 5 levels you need 10 dex. First 3 levels are all luk, with the last 2 levels all dex. Steal? lmfao again... God. I wish idiots didn't try to suggest **** in this game. I hope to god you didn't write a "guide".

      You are not a pro. You have no idea what you are talking about.


      Dark sight has no real point outside of necessary PQs.

      Afro that's stupid. -______-; Especially for the bandit side of the class.... Max darksight helps a ton when a CB is ME'ing. It also saves them a lot of money getting to places. Not to mention the 4th job skill where you have to go in darksight to use it (max is a MUST as without it, haste doesn't work, which means you walk slow AND have to recast it once you're out of darksight).
      Last edited by banditcom; 04-27-2007, 11:56 PM.

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      • Squeek
        let it snow~
        • Jan 2004
        • 14444

        #13158
        Re: MapleStory

        Originally posted by Afrobean
        And Squeek, all of what you said is still valid. He just wanted to come in here and talk **** even though he, in reality, doesn't know as much as he boasts.
        Now, I know that's not true either.

        My post was written when skill costs were upped by halves. Most of the information is really old. Not to mention that I only made four classes in my entire maple career: Priest, Xbow, Assassin, and Fighter.

        Meh. If anyone wants to make something to edit / replace that first post, I wouldn't mind in the slightest. If not, I still wouldn't mind.

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        • Afrobean
          Admiral in the Red Army
          • Dec 2003
          • 13262

          #13159
          Re: MapleStory

          Originally posted by banditcom
          Dark sight has no real point outside of necessary PQs.

          Afro that's stupid. -______-; Especially for the bandit side of the class.... Max darksight helps a ton when a CB is ME'ing. It also saves them a lot of money getting to places. Not to mention the 4th job skill where you have to go in darksight to use it (max is a MUST as without it, haste doesn't work, which means you walk slow AND have to recast it once you're out of darksight).
          Obviously it is useful, but nowhere near important enough to be a worthwhile skill until late in the bandit career. Think MG for priests. Same idea.

          And honestly, I only said that because in the times I've partied with CBs, they never ever use DS. Obviously it has it's places of use, but those places are most definitely Grims in 3rd job. I'll give you 4th job, but again, we don't even have that yet.

          And don't even give me that **** that they should be at Gobies instead. If you look at it that way the only people who should still be at Grims are WKs and F/P mages.

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          • PangYa
            FFR Player
            • Apr 2007
            • 36

            #13160
            Re: MapleStory

            Originally posted by banditcom
            Um max disorder? No. You max nimble body. Max SB first? LMFAO.. no.. Just no. You get mastery way up there before getting level 21 SB, finish mastery at 19, then finish off SB.
            Disorder has saved my ass several times over at pig beach while I was hunting pigs heads. nimble body is pretty useless if you can utilize the rest of your skills right. As for savage blow and mastery although sb starts off weak it gets powerful quickly enough in time for ludi PQs. In my example I was level 38 and the guy helping me was level 43. She was using savage blow with 4 hits each and mastery maxed. I was using mine with 6 hits and not a single point in mastery. It took her 6 hits to kill a zombie lupin while it took me only 3.
            You don't add dex and luk per level. That's stupid too. As a bandit, you don't need dex for a long time, excluding the initial 25. The low level dagger will do until you get a kfan which requires no dex. And when you add dex, you don't add a little each level. Say in 5 levels you need 10 dex. First 3 levels are all luk, with the last 2 levels all dex. Steal? lmfao again... God. I wish idiots didn't try to suggest **** in this game. I hope to god you didn't write a "guide".
            DEX is what broadens your attack power range. You need it alot for both equips and effective hits. LUK is what actually gets the job done with your skills however. A dexless dit is a useless one. Steal will save you money. Alot of money.
            You are not a pro. You have no idea what you are talking about.
            Keep in mind you're saying this to the level 200 shadower -_-
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            • PangYa
              FFR Player
              • Apr 2007
              • 36

              #13161
              Re: MapleStory

              Originally posted by Afrobean
              hahahahahahaha

              Double stab is useless. Any build that mentions double stab is not the fastest and best way to level. I'll admit that Squeek's primarily suggested build is not necessarily the best, but he got it right in mentioning the ditsin build.Oh, and by the way, every single skill for bandits in 1st job sucks ass. Dark sight has no real point outside of necessary PQs. Disorder is 100% useless. Double stab is crappy and is made entirely obsolete early in 2nd job. Nimble Body is useful, but no one worries about accuracy when they're under level 30. Point number one against what you've had to say.

              Going for SB first will make for higher maximum damage, but you'll have a freaking huge range. Your hardest hits will be harder, but your weak hits will be much weaker. This is because you will have VERY LOW MASTERY. Lucky 7 has built in mastery, thus defeating the purpose of even having to worry about SB or mastery... you just get mastery up and by the time your SB is high enough in 4x, you'll have good mastery with daggers. Point number two against what you have to say.

              Steal is ****ing worthless. Ludi PQ? Hah! Ludi PQ is only until level 50 and you're still a newb at level 50. In addition, I hear it no longer works for getting extra PQ items. Point number 3 against what you've said.

              And this thing here about "add x amount of y stat until forever" is always wrong. ALWAYS. YOU NEVER ADD TO YOUR SECONDARY STAT UNLESS YOU NEED TO FOR A WEAPON THAT YOU ARE GOING TO USE. There is not a single class ANYWHERE where you can simply say "add x amount of stat y every level". The only possible exceptions are -less builds-- lukless, dexless, strless. And in those instances, a given formula only works because 100% of AP is to be applied into the class's primary stat.

              PS I only even wrote this post, because you made a false claim. Squeek may not know as much about the game due to quitting a while back, but he definitely is among the tops as far as knowledge of this game goes, even if some of his knowledge is a bit dated sometimes.
              That has to be the most uninformed post ever.
              Everything ever said or written has a little truth to it no matter what anyone says. PM me about my sig and try to give me a contradicting sentence.

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              • Verruckter
                FFR Player
                • Apr 2004
                • 2707

                #13162
                Re: MapleStory

                I've been training at Skeledogs, it's pretty good. I did 10% in less than an hour.
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                • banditcom
                  FFR Player
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 6243

                  #13163
                  Re: MapleStory

                  Originally posted by PangYa
                  Disorder has saved my ass several times over at pig beach while I was hunting pigs heads. nimble body is pretty useless if you can utilize the rest of your skills right. As for savage blow and mastery although sb starts off weak it gets powerful quickly enough in time for ludi PQs. In my example I was level 38 and the guy helping me was level 43. She was using savage blow with 4 hits each and mastery maxed. I was using mine with 6 hits and not a single point in mastery. It took her 6 hits to kill a zombie lupin while it took me only 3.
                  lmfao.... omg Disorder saving someone's ass? AT PIG BEACH?! *ROLLS ON FLOOR* 1) How can someone die there or need their ass saving? 2) Disorder, at most, would take off about 10 damage... lmao... And no, SB without mastery sucks. End of story.

                  Originally posted by PangYa
                  DEX is what broadens your attack power range. You need it alot for both equips and effective hits. LUK is what actually gets the job done with your skills however. A dexless dit is a useless one. Steal will save you money. Alot of money.
                  haha. Steal saves money? By what, possibly stealing something from a monster THAT WOULD DROP IF YOU KILLED IT?? DEX broadening your attack power range, are you joking me? Sure it raises up min, but it does nothing for your max... But hey if you want to do 500 to 600 damage per hit while another guy is doing 475 to 800, be my guest..

                  Originally posted by PangYa
                  Keep in mind you're saying this to the level 200 shadower -_-
                  lmfao gtfo please. You're full of ****. Yeah I'm SURE you're the first person in JMS to hit 200. RIIIIIIIIGHT. Stop with your bull**** you faker. You know jack **** about this game if you're suggesting max disorder to save your ass, steal to get you money, and higher SB being useful before mastery... ****ing pretender. Guess what? Everyone's going to laugh at you.

                  Btw, I do know what I'm talking about just FYI. I know about all classes, many skill builds, and own a 130 Night Lord and 111 Dragon Knight. I'm very well known on Sleepywood.net and in GMS Bera. Hell, people know about me in other servers too. People bring me up all the time, my tips, my keysettings, my threads. Everything.

                  And here you are.... talking about how disorder saves you at pig beach, while saying how ****ty a skill that adds avoid as a bandit of all classes. That's plain stupid.


                  I vote ban this lying 13-year-old from the thread (he says he's 13 in a comment on his profile). Oh and he says he plays MSEA, which ummmm has 1 level 200 and that's a Night Lord.
                  Last edited by banditcom; 04-28-2007, 08:29 AM.

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                  • IAAW
                    FFR Player
                    • May 2005
                    • 3008

                    #13164
                    Re: MapleStory

                    Originally posted by banditcom
                    haha. Steal saves money?
                    Even I, though I don't have an dit/sin, would believe that Steal is an COMPLETELY useless skill. Of course, banditcom is always right about skills. Heck, he's a pro at MS. =P

                    In other news, I'm at 50% right now in MS. Will I have my first level up in months? Only time will tell.

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                    • ProtoMDS
                      FFR Player
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 219

                      #13165
                      Re: MapleStory

                      Rofl; This guy who needs his ass saved at Pig Beach with a completely useless skill is attempting to argue with a 13X hermit about thief skills.

                      A) Dex does nothing for your max. Well, not NOTHING, but close to nothing. Smart people go 3 levels LUK 2 levels DEX to maximize damage WHILE having enough DEX in the long run to equip new gear.

                      B)
                      level 200 shadower -_-
                      ROFL A LEVEL 200 SHADOWER NEEDED TO BE SAVED BY DISORDER?!?!?!
                      Seriously though, there is no ****ing way a level 200 shadower will be making posts like yours. Seriously. A shadower would actually know how skills work.

                      C) DEXless/Low DEX'd dits are useless? Get to level 35, you with your regular dex and challenge a level 35 DEXless dit to a KS war. Have fun getting your ass whooped.

                      D) Steal doesn't save money; it just gives you a slightly chance of finding some extra money / equips. Again, there's no way a level 200 Shadower could get this so horrendously wrong.

                      E) Squeek may be outdated, but his outdated information is still 1000% more accurate than you.

                      PS: Jason, a lot of bandits and/or bandit-sins raise SB to level 21 (6 hits) then raise Dagger Mastery.

                      HOLY EDIT BATMAN:
                      I just realized this shadower wannabe is attempting to challenge 3 maplestory info powerhouses. Let's see who wins.
                      Last edited by ProtoMDS; 04-28-2007, 10:49 AM.
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                      • banditcom
                        FFR Player
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 6243

                        #13166
                        Re: MapleStory

                        I know many go 21 SB before mastery, but they tend to regret it. He said to max SB first.
                        Last edited by banditcom; 04-28-2007, 11:18 AM.

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                        • PangYa
                          FFR Player
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 36

                          #13167
                          Re: MapleStory

                          Originally posted by banditcom
                          lmfao.... omg Disorder saving someone's ass? AT PIG BEACH?! *ROLLS ON FLOOR* 1) How can someone die there or need their ass saving? 2) Disorder, at most, would take off about 10 damage... lmao... And no, SB without mastery sucks. End of story.
                          That was back at the low levels. It reduces an iron pigs attack to 5 that allowed me to save hp potions while hunting for the heads. I no longer go there anymore or use disorder. SB without mastery has wide attack range but far from sucking. If you max it first then that won't matter as you're hitting 6 times and it'll rarely get no hits on the upper scale. If you're a bandit you need to save money good equips and potions before steal.


                          haha. Steal saves money? By what, possibly stealing something from a monster THAT WOULD DROP IF YOU KILLED IT?? DEX broadening your attack power range, are you joking me? Sure it raises up min, but it does nothing for your max... But hey if you want to do 500 to 600 damage per hit while another guy is doing 475 to 800, be my guest..
                          It does stuff for your max dumb****. Why raise STR on a thief? Oh I get it you're not using skills are you? Because you DON'T use steal to help get equips that normally are harder to get so you DON'T have enough money for MP potions.


                          lmfao gtfo please. You're full of ****. Yeah I'm SURE you're the first person in JMS to hit 200. RIIIIIIIIGHT. Stop with your bull**** you faker. You know jack **** about this game if you're suggesting max disorder to save your ass, steal to get you money, and higher SB being useful before mastery... ****ing pretender. Guess what? Everyone's going to laugh at you.
                          Disorder when you're a shadower or cheif badit, pretty useless. In the early stages of a bandit or the late stages of a thief you need it for efficiently getting pigs heads for that festival lady unless you wanna use up potions.
                          Btw, I do know what I'm talking about just FYI. I know about all classes, many skill builds, and own a 130 Night Lord and 111 Dragon Knight. I'm very well known on Sleepywood.net and in GMS Bera. Hell, people know about me in other servers too. People bring me up all the time, my tips, my keysettings, my threads. Everything.

                          And here you are.... talking about how disorder saves you at pig beach, while saying how ****ty a skill that adds avoid as a bandit of all classes. That's plain stupid.


                          I vote ban this lying 13-year-old from the thread (he says he's 13 in a comment on his profile). Oh and he says he plays MSEA, which ummmm has 1 level 200 and that's a Night Lord.
                          I play SEA because I got bored on JMS. And does GMS even HAVE 4th jobs yet?
                          Last edited by PangYa; 04-28-2007, 12:28 PM.
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                          • PangYa
                            FFR Player
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 36

                            #13168
                            Re: MapleStory

                            Originally posted by IAAW
                            Even I, though I don't have an dit/sin, would believe that Steal is an COMPLETELY useless skill. Of course, banditcom is always right about skills. Heck, he's a pro at MS. =P

                            In other news, I'm at 50% right now in MS. Will I have my first level up in months? Only time will tell.
                            Steal isn't useless. No one ****ing uses it right though. You don't go around and use it 5 times then give up. Go to where a monster has the item you're looking for. Use steal until you get the item. Alot quicker than hunting for days.
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                            • PangYa
                              FFR Player
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 36

                              #13169
                              Re: MapleStory

                              Originally posted by ProtoMDS
                              A) Dex does nothing for your max. Well, not NOTHING, but close to nothing. Smart people go 3 levels LUK 2 levels DEX to maximize damage WHILE having enough DEX in the long run to equip new gear.
                              That's what I'm saying. 3 points LUK, 2 points DEX.
                              B)

                              ROFL A LEVEL 200 SHADOWER NEEDED TO BE SAVED BY DISORDER?!?!?!
                              Seriously though, there is no ****ing way a level 200 shadower will be making posts like yours. Seriously. A shadower would actually know how skills work.
                              Never said I needed it as a shadower. I needed it as an early bandit and a rogue. Read the post and make sure you know what you're saying.
                              C) DEXless/Low DEX'd dits are useless? Get to level 35, you with your regular dex and challenge a level 35 DEXless dit to a KS war. Have fun getting your ass whooped.
                              Now at level 40 in SEA I've gone about a party like that in PQ. There were 2 dits one was me, the other low DEX. I did far more than him.
                              D) Steal doesn't save money; it just gives you a slightly chance of finding some extra money / equips. Again, there's no way a level 200 Shadower could get this so horrendously wrong.
                              It speeds things up and if you can find a good place you can easily sell your stuff. Do you want to hunt for 5 days for something or 3 days?
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                              • PangYa
                                FFR Player
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 36

                                #13170
                                Re: MapleStory

                                Originally posted by banditcom
                                I know many go 21 SB before mastery, but they tend to regret it. He said to max SB first.
                                And not regretting it one bit on my level 40.
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