Re: MapleStory
They're not passive, just respectful. Like, normal situation on GMS vs normal situation on JMS:
GMS: I'm training somewhere and have been there for a while. Somebody comes in and starts killing. I ask them repeatedly to leave. Usually they do, but sometimes they stay there or even fuss at me, saying how they've been there for 80 hours and I need to leave. And lately, they'll be a hacker and start vaccing whatever it is I'm fighting, making it so I HAVE to leave because the monsters I want to fight are now all off-screen where only the hacker can hurt them.
Or, if I'm the dumbass who comes in and starts taking their kills, I get yelled at. Or, as more often happens, I enter the channel and do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING and the person yells at me to "CC PLZ". There have been times I log in and sit in my chair, just to take to people, and people pass by me and tell me to CC when I've just been sitting there the whole time. That or I get called a hacker.
JMS: I'm training somewhere and have been there for a while. Somebody comes in. They change channels once they see I'm there or just pass through without killing anything. Nothing was said, nothing needed to be said. Sometimes I'll find a person killing things on my channel, but they walk off to a safe spot and CC, because we both know who was there first and they're not gonna try to bull**** me.
Or, in the reverse situation, I come in and start killing. This has happened on a huge map before, and I didn't know the other person was there for a while. Rather than argue, the person just avoids my area of the map that I've been killing and goes about training as usual. The average JMS player apparently realizes that most maps are too big for one person, and I have, on occasion, shared maps with other JMS players without saying a single word. Here and there we'll accidentally attack the same monster and then turn our separate ways, so as not to be mean to each other.
Jason, you're twisting our words. When we say something is common, we don't mean 50%+ of the people in the game do it. We mean that more than 50% of the time we play, we experience these things. The majority of the times that I've logged in to play the game, I've encountered assholes and idiots. The frequency lowers as I get higher and higher leveled, because people who have played as long as I have learn to respect other players and not be morons. With the hacking situation, though, you get these morons who think they're all high and mighty just because they can break the rules, so they think they're better than you, and they don't have the respect for other people their level because they haven't gone through the same amount of **** to get where they are. I had almost finally escaped the idiocy and then this huge wave of hacking occurs and I can't get away from this crap. It's absurd.
Also, this part of what you said really pissed me off:
You don't know ****, Jason. I may not be the most social person in the world, but I'm not some emo hate-everyone moron. I have rotate people around on my buddy list, but they always end up being morons or assholes and get swapped out for somebody else. The fact that I have buddies here on FFR alone should show you that I can be somewhat social. I don't just sit around in some high lonely tower looking down on all the people who aren't good enough to know me like you seem to think I do. I go out there and encounter people, see how stupid they are, and then get the **** away from the idiocy. Every so often I'll find somebody worthwhile and buddy them, but usually the nice people I encounter aren't on very often, because they're the older people that don't just come home, do 5 algebra problems and then play MS. And I like the people in our guild, because the ones that come from FFR, where people are oddly awesome.
Just don't try to act like you know me or what I'm like if you really don't. It pisses me off that you can make some sweeping judgement about me, who you really should know better than to make crazy assumptions like that, just because I'm fed up with the majority of GMS's population. Yeah, maybe it's not just an American vs Japanese thing, I'll give you that. JMS's people tend to be older and tend to have played the game longer (at least long enough to know that sharing a map won't kill them). All that does is give me MORE reasons to avoid GMS, because regardless of why they're mostly terrible, you really can't deny that the average GMS player is pretty terrible. I mean, I give new people a chance to prove themselves, but so many times they've taken that chance to show how they're not even worth my time. And this is coming from somebody who always thought the rest of the guild was too hard on people and tried to stand up for the downtrodden people. People always were pissed off at Minh (he was kinda annoying, but he wasn't bad) but I tried to make people knock it off and just ignore him. Maybe you guys just don't notice that I'm nice to everybody. Whatever, it seems like most of you don't notice anything I say. And you have NO idea how much that frustrates me.
And please, don't jump into arguements with stupid counter-points that don't apply whatsoever. And yes, I am talking about how you randomly brought up Bush. Leave the politics out of this, we're talking about overall culture and I don't feel he's a very good representation of that at all. -___-
They're not passive, just respectful. Like, normal situation on GMS vs normal situation on JMS:
GMS: I'm training somewhere and have been there for a while. Somebody comes in and starts killing. I ask them repeatedly to leave. Usually they do, but sometimes they stay there or even fuss at me, saying how they've been there for 80 hours and I need to leave. And lately, they'll be a hacker and start vaccing whatever it is I'm fighting, making it so I HAVE to leave because the monsters I want to fight are now all off-screen where only the hacker can hurt them.
Or, if I'm the dumbass who comes in and starts taking their kills, I get yelled at. Or, as more often happens, I enter the channel and do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING and the person yells at me to "CC PLZ". There have been times I log in and sit in my chair, just to take to people, and people pass by me and tell me to CC when I've just been sitting there the whole time. That or I get called a hacker.
JMS: I'm training somewhere and have been there for a while. Somebody comes in. They change channels once they see I'm there or just pass through without killing anything. Nothing was said, nothing needed to be said. Sometimes I'll find a person killing things on my channel, but they walk off to a safe spot and CC, because we both know who was there first and they're not gonna try to bull**** me.
Or, in the reverse situation, I come in and start killing. This has happened on a huge map before, and I didn't know the other person was there for a while. Rather than argue, the person just avoids my area of the map that I've been killing and goes about training as usual. The average JMS player apparently realizes that most maps are too big for one person, and I have, on occasion, shared maps with other JMS players without saying a single word. Here and there we'll accidentally attack the same monster and then turn our separate ways, so as not to be mean to each other.
Jason, you're twisting our words. When we say something is common, we don't mean 50%+ of the people in the game do it. We mean that more than 50% of the time we play, we experience these things. The majority of the times that I've logged in to play the game, I've encountered assholes and idiots. The frequency lowers as I get higher and higher leveled, because people who have played as long as I have learn to respect other players and not be morons. With the hacking situation, though, you get these morons who think they're all high and mighty just because they can break the rules, so they think they're better than you, and they don't have the respect for other people their level because they haven't gone through the same amount of **** to get where they are. I had almost finally escaped the idiocy and then this huge wave of hacking occurs and I can't get away from this crap. It's absurd.
Also, this part of what you said really pissed me off:
Let us say you are both at a party. I know both of you will pretty much look at everyone there in a pessimistic and negative way. Won't associate with them. Just assume bad things because they are either smoking, drinking, or the fact that they are there. It's rather obvious. I mean neither of you have buddy lists, do you? Afro you only have one as a list to contact DKs.
Just don't try to act like you know me or what I'm like if you really don't. It pisses me off that you can make some sweeping judgement about me, who you really should know better than to make crazy assumptions like that, just because I'm fed up with the majority of GMS's population. Yeah, maybe it's not just an American vs Japanese thing, I'll give you that. JMS's people tend to be older and tend to have played the game longer (at least long enough to know that sharing a map won't kill them). All that does is give me MORE reasons to avoid GMS, because regardless of why they're mostly terrible, you really can't deny that the average GMS player is pretty terrible. I mean, I give new people a chance to prove themselves, but so many times they've taken that chance to show how they're not even worth my time. And this is coming from somebody who always thought the rest of the guild was too hard on people and tried to stand up for the downtrodden people. People always were pissed off at Minh (he was kinda annoying, but he wasn't bad) but I tried to make people knock it off and just ignore him. Maybe you guys just don't notice that I'm nice to everybody. Whatever, it seems like most of you don't notice anything I say. And you have NO idea how much that frustrates me.
And please, don't jump into arguements with stupid counter-points that don't apply whatsoever. And yes, I am talking about how you randomly brought up Bush. Leave the politics out of this, we're talking about overall culture and I don't feel he's a very good representation of that at all. -___-
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