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  • Verruckter
    FFR Player
    • Apr 2004
    • 2707

    #3271
    Originally posted by ghost_of_eb
    Verruckter, I will never be able to fight some monsters without MG. I've seen videos of 1xx mages that still use MG because things can STILL kill them in 1 hit. That kills us with pot useage, too, because MP pots cost twice as much. By the time you're 3rd job you'll have thousands of HP whereas I might have 1k, I think? I've played with every class, and warriors don't have it as hard as you may think. They have the only mob attack in 1st job, and it remains one of the strongest mob attacks in the 2nd job. They're the first class able to hit for 1k damage, they take WAY less touch damage, they don't have to have Hyber Body to survive boss attacks, and I suspect that they will be the absolute best in the 4th job, whenever that comes out.

    It helps if you've played as other classes, but they all have their disadvantages. Warriors lack range and MP, mages like HP and armor, archers are screwed if a monster gets too close, and thieves have lower attack weapons and are therefore much more expensive to fund and get to the same power as other classes. All these disadvantages are fixed as time goes on, though. Warriors get larger attack to make up for things and huge ranged attacks and MP recovery, mages get MG to act as a buffer for their low HP and they have enough magic def to soften big attacks that later monsters (plus tele helps to evade attacks), archers get mortal blow and power knockback and puppet for distracting, and thieves get money saving skills.

    I'd say the classes are pretty balanced in the long run, but each has its time to shine. Lots of warriors and bowmen get discouraged because their glory time is much later in the game than sins and mages. Just suck it up and keep going, because it'll be worth it eventually.

    EDIT: wtf Moogy?
    I guess you're right.

    Squeek: I need 1 more lvl to max mastery. I'll stop putting points in it at 19 because the last level only gives 1 accuracy, so it's not really worth it. And even with mastery maxed, the range is very wide. My mastery is at 16 (on 20) and my attack is 141 ~ 419.
    Truth lies in loneliness, When hope is long gone by -Blind Guardian, The Soulforged
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    • Afrobean
      Admiral in the Red Army
      • Dec 2003
      • 13262

      #3272
      That's weird. Mastery should shorten up your range of damage by a lot.

      And yea, don't actually max mastery. That last one is a waste.

      EDIT: I played on my messed up Archer for a bit. I found out I messed up his stats haha. He has like 13 luk and int. As if that wasn't enough, there's the problem of having like 10 too much str that I already knew about.

      Yea, anyway, I used all the teeth I had on storage to get him to like 90% (I think he was like 60% at level 26), then killed a bunch of jr sents and got him the level. He is now level 27 and waiting in El Nath for me to get more teeth.

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      • OniSplitter
        FFR Player
        • Jun 2005
        • 223

        #3273
        Well decided to buy some scrolls before Monday (AKA insane-inflation day) and this is what happened.



        Yeah yeah, I know... I rule.

        OniSpltter~ 11x priest
        xOniSplitter~ 5x sin

        Originally posted by FHWiffeey
        This black guy who was like... twice my height gave me a high five... I didn't know they did that. O_o

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        • Afrobean
          Admiral in the Red Army
          • Dec 2003
          • 13262

          #3274
          Hay Oni.

          Can you show me that in a trade?

          Ok, now press tab tab enter and you WIN 1000000000000000000000000000 mesos!!!!

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          • OniSplitter
            FFR Player
            • Jun 2005
            • 223

            #3275
            OMG OK AFRO, I ALWAYS WANTED THAT MANY MESOS... Hey.. is this a scam? No? OK YAY *trades*

            Lol =P it's not really worth a huge amount of money to be honest, but I'm still happy with it. Especially on a gaia's cape. Well, back to doing what I have been for the past 3 days *sits around and does nothing while waiting for the patch* ~_~;

            OniSpltter~ 11x priest
            xOniSplitter~ 5x sin

            Originally posted by FHWiffeey
            This black guy who was like... twice my height gave me a high five... I didn't know they did that. O_o

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            • Squeek
              let it snow~
              • Jan 2004
              • 14444

              #3276
              I have a 10 int cape too =D

              But srsly. Verr, here's the thing. Magicians DO have loads of MP which is awsom!11 but... sometimes we have to use Magic Guard to train. So you basically take the damage you take to HP and the potions you consume and double them. That's our costs.

              Zombies do ~190 on touch without Invincible, ~150 at the 6x range with their Magical Attack (to Magicians), and ~250 with their Physical Claw (to Magicians). At level 6x, we have like 700-800 HP. So find out how many potions WE use.

              Except if you're a Cleric. Clerics own at everything, so if you're smart about training you can do it without using any potions. I personally have not used a mana potion since level 47 and only used Health potions when I could not Heal (sealed, stunned, etc).

              Also, your range is huge because you're a spearman. Fighters and pages have a lower max attack but a higher min attack range. But they also can't hit things as far away as you can. And if you're worried about range, wait until you see the third job skills which more than triple the attack radius of your weapon no matter which route you go (spear, polearm, or both).

              ~Squeek

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              • Afrobean
                Admiral in the Red Army
                • Dec 2003
                • 13262

                #3277
                Zombies do ~190 on touch without Invincible, ~150 at the 6x range with their Magical Attack (to Magicians), and ~250 with their Physical Claw (to Magicians). At level 6x, we have like 700-800 HP. So find out how many potions WE use.
                None. Duh.

                LOLZ

                On a more serious note, I tried the no pots at all method and it worked for a long time.

                Then I hit coolies and found I had to use way more MP to tele around, and if I don't tele around the exp rate isn't that fast.

                I'm working on maxing eater right now. I maxed bless before other stuff to get people to want to party with me more earlier on.

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                • Bahamut-X
                  FFR Player
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 3399

                  #3278
                  Decided to make a new character, I'm now a level 12 archer.

                  Could anyone tell me about quests? I haven't found any yet, and I heard they give you exp which I direly need.

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                  • gonzo4life44
                    FFR Player
                    • May 2004
                    • 626

                    #3279
                    Originally posted by Bahamut-X
                    Decided to make a new character, I'm now a level 12 archer.

                    Could anyone tell me about quests? I haven't found any yet, and I heard they give you exp which I direly need.
                    You might wanna try to go to http://www.hidden-street.net/. They tell you how, where, and what you get for each quest.


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                    • emccky
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 4811

                      #3280
                      hidden-street.net


                      look under quests for your level. they have all the ones and what to do.

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                      • Bahamut-X
                        FFR Player
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 3399

                        #3281
                        But that's like cheating -_-

                        It's not too much of a spoiler, is it?

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                        • ckj846
                          FFR Player
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 2437

                          #3282

                          Score... I've been waiting for level 48 for a while... Well, Verr, Archers and Sins also get 3 mp evey 10 seconds, and we take way more damage than warriors because of our lower defense. I personally think warriors are fun to play with just because of how fast they level in the beginning. However, I'm not sure what it is like to level a warrior at 4x because I got lazy and quit him. I'm hoping to get to level 50 by this weekend. Now, time to study for finals....
                          O_o
                          pyro31191: TELL EVERYONE YOU WANT TO TAKE IT IN THE ASS NOW
                          pyro31191: rofl
                          pyro31191: You should tell them earlier though
                          pyro31191: so they can buy dildos instead of fleshlights

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                          • vashthestampede0987
                            FFR Player
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 2997

                            #3283
                            Not really, it just sums up the quest without hearing the useless jabber of the person informing you about it.
                            Omega owes me [1] omega favor
                            I am God of Hot Pockets, fear my fillings for they may be hot.


                            Originally posted by Synthlight
                            I hate myself.

                            Cheers,

                            Synthlight
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                            • Chromer
                              Hookers and Blow
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 4981

                              #3284
                              These Jr. Grupins are boring to kill now. I think that's the reason I'm leveling so slowly. Should I move to Jr. Pepes?

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                              • Verruckter
                                FFR Player
                                • Apr 2004
                                • 2707

                                #3285
                                Originally posted by Afrobean
                                Well, I don't think it's fair that your class gets to do so much damage.
                                What? I don't know what you're talking about...

                                Truth lies in loneliness, When hope is long gone by -Blind Guardian, The Soulforged
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