Lightdarkness doesn't support the PS3

[Angel Shiyue]

Re: Lightdarkness doesn't support the PS3

Right now, Wii > PS3

Besides, for the $600 US price, I could easily get my Wii, an extra controller, and a crapload of games. Hope your PS3 doesn't explode in your face.

I'll be getting my PS3 when it stops messing up and the price drops, kthnx.

[Doug31]

Re: Lightdarkness doesn't support the PS3

Wii > PS3 even if they were the same price, IMO.

[Angel Shiyue]

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Both systems have weak and strong points. While I am a -huge- supporter of all things Nintendo, does anyone remember when the GCN came out? It got best of show for it's E3. Nintendo makes me a little nervous right now because as much as I want the Wii to succeed (and right now it looks like it might), Nintendo made a rather large slip-up with the GCN. However, from the way they're handling the DS, they might actually come out on top this time around.

The PS3, on the other hand, will probably end up having more selection if Nintendo isn't careful. Although there are it's problems right now (about one good launch game, Resistance, the price tag, the over-heating, ect), Sony might be able to pull this one through. We all like to see the mighty fall (except Sony fanboys), but once Sony gets the PS3 under control price-wise and problem-wise, I'm quite sure it's going to take off.

That's my honest opinion, right there.

[Tokzic]

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Both systems have weak and strong points. While I am a -huge- supporter of all things Nintendo, does anyone remember when the GCN came out? It got best of show for it's E3. Nintendo makes me a little nervous right now because as much as I want the Wii to succeed (and right now it looks like it might), Nintendo made a rather large slip-up with the GCN. However, from the way they're handling the DS, they might actually come out on top this time around.

That's exactly my viewpoint on Nintendo the past while, point for point. I loved N64 and thought that they would sweep the next generation, too... but they didn't.

The PS3, on the other hand, will probably end up having more selection if Nintendo isn't careful. Although there are it's problems right now (about one good launch game, Resistance, the price tag, the over-heating, ect), Sony might be able to pull this one through. We all like to see the mighty fall (except Sony fanboys), but once Sony gets the PS3 under control price-wise and problem-wise, I'm quite sure it's going to take off.

Sony has lost almost all of their third-party licenses because after the success of the PS2 they have been money-mongering idiots. They've got a ridiculously high price tag and they're still losing 25% of the cost on every console sold. This will mean a minimal price decrease, even accounting for the fact that the price of the technology will decrease over the next couple years. I don't realisticly see anyone buying it but die-hard Sony fans and rich gamers with its current price. Throughout all of this, they still retain their arrogant attitude they picked up from last generation, and besides that, they're making horrible business decisions at almost every opportunity. "Hey, let's understock for the release, that'll make it so that demand increases!" Did you count on half of the release buyers being people just looking to make a quick buck on EBay, and even that the demand wouldn't be high enough for them to succeed?

Sony's going to take a huge hit this generation and there's no real way they can pull out of it.

[Squeek]

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The Gamecube was a placeholder console.

That isn't to say it didn't do well, because it did. Each console sold was a profit for Nintendo, unlike its competition that sold theirs at a loss. The first party games for Gamecube were incredibly solid despite what some may think (O NOEZ CEL-SHADED LINK?! MARIO HAS A WATER PACK?! FOX HAS A STAFF?!) because some of them were just amazing (Metroid in first-person? WarioWare multiplayer? Introduction of Animal Crossing? And of course, Super Smash Bros. Melee).

The third party support wasn't terrible either. It just mainly came from Sega and Namco. Super Monkey Ball, Sonic, Tales of Symphonia, Baten Kaitos...

But all in all, it's pretty clear to me that Gamecube was a placeholder while the DS and Wii were in development. 20+ million sold on a placeholder unit is not bad at all, especially when each one sold is profit to the company.

[Tokzic]

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The Gamecube was a placeholder console.

okay come on squeek

showing favoritism is one thing but i think we both know that's your nintendo-fanboyism talking

"UH WELL OKAY MAYBE NINTENDO BOMBED THIS CONSOLE

BUT THEY MEANT TO!!!"

The first party games for Gamecube were incredibly solid despite what some may think (O NOEZ CEL-SHADED LINK?! MARIO HAS A WATER PACK?! FOX HAS A STAFF?!)

You aren't defending Starfox Adventures, are you?

UH OH GUYS OUR BETA TESTERS ARE FINISHING THE GAME A LITTLE FASTER THAN WE'D LIKE

LET'S MAKE THEM BEAT EVERY DUNGEON TWICE THAT'LL TACK A FEW EXTRA GAME HOURS ON THERE

But yes, all of the games in those brackets are crap. Mario Sunshine was a really bad take on Mario 64. Wind Waker was the worst excuse for a Zelda game I've ever played, graphics (which I thought were an interesting direction to take) aside. AND I AM INCLUDING THE PHILLIPS ONES. well okay not really but they're close I'm not saying that Gamecube didn't have its share of good games, but I am saying their share was depressingly small.

[Squeek]

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Uh.

It's called an interpretation by an actual reviewer. I had to have read it somewhere or I would never thought about it that way.

Ok, Starfox Adventures sucked. I'm just saying most people look to the negative aspects of first party revisions for the Gamecube without considering that they might be good regardless.

Even though Starfox Adventures sucked, Wind Waker was good, Metroid Prime was good, Super Mario Sunshine was good, etc. If you came in with a bias that the new games would suck solely based on the addition of a new feature, then of course you wouldn't like it.

I thoroughly enjoyed Wind Waker. I did not care at all that the game was Cel-Shaded because it only added to the game's overall feel. I enjoyed Super Mario Sunshine because toward the end it really wasn't just about spraying water to clean stuff up.

Let's see. I have 41 Gamecube games and by the time I'm done buying them I'll have 42 (gotta buy Baten Kaitos Origins). I hate four of them. That makes 38 games I like.

Where is this a bad console, again? Even if my concept of it being a placeholder is wrong (which, really, it isn't. They started the concept of Wii back when N64 was still on the market but just didn't have the technology at the time to get it out cheaply enough for consumers), it's not like it was a terrible console. It was the best console to have at a party, hands-down. I always carried around a disc carrier holding a dozen of the best multiplayer games I owned whenever I took that console with me, and they always got used. Melee, Mario Kart, Super Monkey Ball, Starfox Assault, F-Zero GX, Mario Party, Metroid Prime 2, WarioWare, etc.

What 4-player games did PS2 even have? Most developers didn't make games for 4 players because the console only had a default of 2 slots. My group of friends is larger than 2 people, so one would be left out. Harsh. What good multiplayer games did Xbox have? I'll give you Halo even though I consider it to be pretty sad compared to the books, but offhand I can't think of anything else.

In multiplayer world, Gamecube came out on top BY FAR. It was not a bombed console AT ALL. SELLING TWENTY MILLION CONSOLES DOES NOT MEAN FAILURE.

[nforcer06164]

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A placeholder console? Are you kidding me? I mean, yeah, I'm a die-hard Nintendo fan too, but that is just ridiculous.

[Squeek]

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If I can remember what analyst called it that, I'll post it >_>

[Angel Shiyue]

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In multiplayer world, Gamecube came out on top BY FAR. It was not a bombed console AT ALL. SELLING TWENTY MILLION CONSOLES DOES NOT MEAN FAILURE.

It depends on which type of multiplayer you talk about. If we're talking about online, GCN bombed for sure. You also failed to point out that with XBox (and I don't own one or like it) you can do some sort of hook-up or something with other XBoxes. I don't know the details, but I've seen it done a lot of times.

Also, Sony's already taken a huge hit this time around, Tokzic. PSP = FAIL. They went up against Nintendo with half-assed games and expected people to buy 'memory sticks', if I'm not mistaken. Sony's already losing money, not only on the PS3 but the PSP as well.

Squeek does have a point, though. Nintendo did sell the GCN at a profit and not at a loss like Sony and Microsoft.

[Squeek]

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Ok, Xbox was online. But what games could you play online?

Halo, Halo 2... And that's all I can think of. Sure, others were online, but did anyone really play them instead of Halo?

Oh, and doesn't it cost money for online service? Unlike playing in the same room? Yeah, I thought so.

Gamecube did have an online service but nobody used it.

Besides, my friends didn't own Gamecubes since they just borrowed mine, so I couldn't play online with them anyway. It's better that we're all in the same room playing.

Again, you can call me what you want, but I don't consider myself a fanboy. Had I the funds, I would have bought the $100 Xbox 360 Core. Gears of War and Dead Rising look like solid games, but I'm totally uninterested in online play. Always have been ever since Counter Strike from almost six years ago. Viva Pinata also looks good, and hopefully they'll make Psychonauts backwards compatible soon.

I also considered buying a PS2, but only for their RPGs and some of their exclusives (Katamari, Devil May Cry, etc). But each time I consider it, I back out because I already have a Wii, and there are about a dozen solid games coming out in the first half of 2007.

[Angel Shiyue]

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GCN had online service? Really? /end sarcasm

I don't even recall Nintendo even talking about taking GCN online.

[Squeek]

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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=mario+kart+double+dash+online

http://www.warppipe.com/

If you're like us, you're more than a little disappointed that "Mario Kart: Double Dash!!" doesn't have an online component. Sure, you can get up to 16 players to play together on a LAN, but we want online play.

We found a solution. An outfit called the Warp Pipe Project created a way to fool your GameCube into playing online through your PC and broadband connection.

Even cooler, Warp Pipe allows for region-free play. That means you can play against people in countries with different regional hardware and software. Got a friend in Japan? Kick his banana-peel-throwing butt to the curb.

Mario Kart's instruction manual tells you how to connect the console up to other Gamecube players as well.

[Angel Shiyue]

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Oh, I thought you were talking about online. You're talking about networking.

[Squeek]

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It's not an official online service, but with tweaking, I can connect my Gamecube up to other Gamecubes online.

Mario Kart's manual only had the instructions on how to do it over a LAN. Fortunately, I know how to make a virtual LAN over the Internet. Therefore, online play.

Besides, Warp Pipe (when it worked) allowed players to compete in ANY GAME online, or so I heard. So you could have SSBM matches online.

But back to how the PS3 sucks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoCD9TwLrVs

Oh, and I foresee more "OMG SQEK U FANBOI" coming up. I'll just try to reason with you for a moment and say I did consider the PS3 at one point, but now it's completely out of the question. I don't see any good games coming out for this any time soon, I don't see the price dropping any time soon, and I don't see the need for a format that hardly any movie producers are interested in.

Again, I say, good luck with your $600 paper weight. For maybe a year or so, that's all it looks like it will be.