MS Guild Business

[Tokzic]

Like I said, my brother was annoying and hogged the computer like crazy, and banditcom has a shared account.

And man, it's really sounding like I have something against him. I think Jason's great, and I won't mind at all if he's leader, but I know I can do a great job at this. Otherwise I would not bother running.

And like I said again, it looks like he's going to win anyway. XD

[-Fallen-]

What does him sharing an account with anybody have to do with anything? Pat only started playing around level 50 really. Jason did everything up until then by himself which is still higher than half of the people on FFR right now. They are both great players and felt like teaming up, it's nobody's business whether they choose to share or not.

[Tokzic]

it's nobody's business whether they choose to share or not.

Until they become the leader of a guild.

[-Fallen-]

I'll repeat myself again..

What does him sharing an account with anybody have to do with anything?

The account has 2 owners. Ownership 50/50, I hope you understand this? Which means you can't do nothing about it and it won't change and therefore have nothing to do with anything.

It's like saying..

"Sorry guys but if you are not the ONLY person logging into your account logging in from YOUR household you are not allowed to join the guild. "

[Tokzic]

Seriously, this discussion is going in circles. I say we drop it and stop cluttering the thread.

[-Fallen-]

Well you havn't answered the question, oh well.

[banditcom]

Robby, it's ok man. XD

And yea.. I played by myself until 50, then Pat has helped playing. Again the distribution, for training, has been 75% me, 22% Pat, 3% Robby (after hitting 50)... Something like that.. I don't know...

I also stopped for a long time like around 20% into level 43... After not quite a month and a half, people finally caught up. A week or two later they started to pass me... I started to playing, and beat them all to 50. XD Then I actually got into training, and with Pat helping some and Robby helping a few times, leveling became quicker...

[Tokzic]

Fine, I'll tie up the loose end before I throw this metaphorical widget away.

Like others have already said, someone can be very worthy of trust and leadership, but if someone else can take control of their body through some supernatural internets means, suddenly the trust isn't quite there anymore. We've all had little-no contact with Pat and really can't tell for ourselves if he has all the qualities Jason does.

[ghost_of_eb]

Robby, the fact that you still can't understand why account sharing is a concern to everybody continues to boggle my mind. Sometimes you just really don't get things that are just so obvious. You seem to have a warped perception of....well, damn near everything.

ANYWHO, I think it's fair enough to say that Arbiter, Imperator, Patrician, Plebian, Serf wins as far as rankings go. As for the leader election, I'm not sure, but was that Afro saying he's stepping down or that he's okay with losing in case he does? I haven't talked to him about it personally, but I dunno. He didn't seem like he really wanted to lead to begin with, so I wouldn't be surprised if he backed out now that he's up there in votes.

[Afrobean]

I'm not sure, but was that Afro saying he's stepping down or that he's okay with losing in case he does?

Ok with losing.

But since Jason said nothing of not giving out his password to anyone else, and I heard nothing of the sort from robby or pat (actually robby sounds like he'd be perfectly fine with giving out the pass based on his lack of understanding the unfairness of account sharing).

Actually, take this post as saying that I'm now greatly interested in being the leader. I will be on as much as Jason (probably more than Jason, but less than all three users combined...) I have a giving nature and am usually willing to help (and once I get HS and door I'm sure you'll all be clamoring for my help). Also, I get about 1 mil per level, and I don't really have any plans on buying anything until 75+ (and I really don't think I'll be willing to pay so much for a dark ritual anyway...), so if people need money, I'd have no real problem fronting them. And realistically, you guys are saying you want someone who's active on both FFR and MS... well I'm probably the most active individual in MS and one of the most active forum members.

And since many of you have brought up age as a factor (I don't see how it matters...), I'm a senior in high school. I'm going to be 18 at the end of the month. I'm not exactly young. That doesn't really matter though. The thing that really matters is level of maturity. And while I might not be the most accurate measurer of my own maturity, I can say that I do feel that I am extremely mature.

The only way I can see me being unnable to function as a guild leader is if it has a 100 fame requirement. And if that's the case, banditcom can be our only choice as of right now, anyway, right? Or does Oni have 100 fame?

PS ellipsises in parenthesis are rly kewl~

[banditcom]

Honestly, I wouldn't mind Jason as leader, but he obviously doesn't mind handing out his password to lots of people.

ROFL yea I love giving out my password, which is why I had to change my password on every place I have my name registered to something else, as I could not change my password on MS (since I entered gibberish for the secret questions). However I could in fact have MS send me a gibberish password in replace of my current one at anytime (that's what they do for the forgot your password.. change it to some gibberish and send you that one to your registered email). Of course, I didn't know this until after I had changed all my current registrations... XD

[Afrobean]

Honestly, I wouldn't mind Jason as leader, but he obviously doesn't mind handing out his password to lots of people.

ROFL yea I love giving out my password, which is why I had to change my password on every place I have my name registered to something else, as I could not change my password on MS (since I entered gibberish for the secret questions). However I could in fact have MS send me a gibberish password in replace of my current one at anytime (that's what they do for the forgot your password.. change it to some gibberish and send you that one to your registered email). Of course, I didn't know this until after I had changed all my current registrations... XD

That had nothing to do with continueing to share your account with more people. It's just an account of what you went through to allow you to be able to share your MS account without worrying about other accounts.

[-Fallen-]

Robby, the fact that you still can't understand why account sharing is a concern to everybody continues to boggle my mind. Sometimes you just really don't get things that are just so obvious. You seem to have a warped perception of....well, damn near everything.

I know everyone is whining about it because it's called "cheating" in a way and it's unfair for other players but that doesn't make sense. The obvious thing is that your character is based on how much you play and whether Pat helped Jason or not he'd still be in the late 60's and hitting 70 soon anyways. To me at least, sharing the account means nothing. Give me 1 good reason why you find it unfair for them to share an account? The game is not meant for competition..It's NOT a game to see who can hit level 1xx first. It's to have fun. I don't understand what's so bad about having a really high level friend either. It's awesome, plus they are both cool people and don't suck at the game.

Anyways it's obviously a little hatred blended with some jealousy or else if Jason would of never mentioned anything you would of never knew he and Pat agreed to concentrate on one char. Give it up. We're supposed to have FUN, not argue about how Jason's character is so high leveled and it's unfair for everyone cause it REALLY DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE AT ALL.

[banditcom]

Note the sarcasm from "ROFL yea I love giving out my password".

And can't you put a few things together? Robby and Pat are best friends. I became good friends with both of them through Skype, both while out and while in MS. Thus, trust was built. One day Pat asked about it. After a few days, I let him join in. I had trusted him enough, sort of, but what allowed me to was knowing Robby as well. It wasn't for like 5 levels until Robby wondered if he could play sometimes too, for something different. Yea, that's fine.

It's a circle of trust. We all know each other's logins, passwords, and pins for the game.

[-Fallen-]

Yeah I also take care of a lot of Jason's basil trades too during the middle of the night when people are loging in from like Austria and crap and neither of them will be on til the weekend to do it. So that's fun too