The PS3 Is Here.

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  • lord_carbo
    FFR Player
    • Dec 2004
    • 6222

    #196
    Re: The PS3 Is Here.

    IMO Sony has ****ed up.

    First of all, avaliability for the holidays. All the kids will be asking for PS3s. Parents, being so uninformed and unwilling to actually look stuff up to satisfy their kids, will go into stores expecting a moderately stocked, moderately priced system. "Opps lol, all sold out, and really expensive anyway". So what is moderately stocked and priced? The Xbox 360, and, even cheaper (although possibly not as stocked), the Wii. How many units they'll have by the end of the year doesn't matter as much as how many units they'll have by the time holiday shopping is at its peak. I'm pretty sure that 70% of the people who haven't preordered a PS3 already and will buy one aren't going to be buying one after they do their holiday shopping (I mean, mommy is always trying to please little Tommy and will spend $1000s of dollars to do so, hence why there are goddamn 9 year olds with cell phones and 60 GB video Ipods these days).

    Add in all the gaming nerds willing to spend all the money and also know when all the stocks come in or even preordered it, not too many parents are going to be spoiling their child this year. I also won't be suprised if there's are PS3s not being yanked off shelves on sight by the time 2007 arrives.

    Now this moment of time is going to be the deciding factor for the PS3. The developers who still haven't decided need to decide right away if they want to stick with the PS3 or not. If the Wii outsells the PS3 and the developers aren't totally stupid, chances are they'll scatter around Nintendo and Microsoft. If the PS3 just totally sucks even worse than I predicted for the holidays, they'll go to Microsoft.

    And if that doesn't get to them, there's pricing. Games for the PS3 are going to be extremely expensive (when it comes to pricetag and, I'm assuming, production), and the PS3 is, alas, also overpriced. This is really really really bad for both producers and developers (especially for obscure developers). Games will just be too expensive to gorge on. Games like Psychonauts wouldn't even hit the shelves as a PS3 game, it would be just too damn expensive.

    So yeah I expect the PS3 to do extremely badly throughout the first year. It might pick up again Christmas 2007, but Sony will probably lose a lot of developers in the process. That's what you get when you push the envelope and go for impractical technology.

    Just a bit of unorganized and unrevised speculation.
    Last edited by lord_carbo; 09-18-2006, 03:04 PM.
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    • stealthkidd
      Above and Beyond
      • Nov 2005
      • 368

      #197
      Re: The PS3 Is Here.

      sony copies all other systems and makes it in theirs. nintendo wii, if copied then who ever copied sucks. in the end nintendo prevails! they just happened to think up the best idea so far ever.

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      • kickassbuddy
        FFR Player
        • Jun 2004
        • 594

        #198
        Re: The PS3 Is Here.


        Win.

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        • Squeek
          let it snow~
          • Jan 2004
          • 14444

          #199
          Re: The PS3 Is Here.

          NOTE: PS3 PRICE CUT IN JAPAN ONLY.

          NOTE: PS3 PRICE CUT IN JAPAN ONLY.

          NOTE: PS3 PRICE CUT IN JAPAN ONLY.

          NOTE: PS3 PRICE CUT IN JAPAN ONLY.

          NOTE: PS3 PRICE CUT IN JAPAN ONLY.

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          • Squeek
            let it snow~
            • Jan 2004
            • 14444

            #200
            Re: The PS3 Is Here.

            Whee doublepost lots of interest in this thread 8)

            Alright Sony, this is just getting ridiculous. It's not like you guys haven't been a featured guest in this series before, but we had no idea it was such an honor. The third "CE-Oh no" moment for Sony this week came out of the mouth of SCE World Europe VP, Jamie MacDonald, who was asked: "What would you say to consumers who like Sony and want to buy your products, but perhaps feel that because they're in Europe they're always last in line?" Apparently Jamie feels little love for his whiny constituency, since his clueless response was thus: "European consumers have shown that historically they don't mind that, because they end up buying as many PlayStations, if not more, than the US and Japan. In Europe, it doesn't seem that the release of our platforms after the US and Japan - in the long run - affects how consumers feel." We're not even sure how to respond to that, so we'll continue with more "CE-Oh no" sound bite gold from our pal Jamie. In response to a query about Sony's UMD failure, he stated: "I think you'll find in general the market for movies on discs of any type is not particularly great at the moment." Again, we really have nothing to add, so we'll just hit up one more sound bite for good time's sake. When asked about the Wii60 concept, where prospective next-gen buyers compare the price of purchasing an Xbox 360 and a Nintendo Wii to the cost of the PS3 alone, Jamie further demonstrated his ignorance: "To be honest, I haven't heard that." Not a banner day for Sony PR by a long shot, but at least they're not trying to hide their seeming disdain for consumers and plain logic.[Thanks, Xavier G.]


            Alright Sony, this is just getting ridiculous. It's not like you guys haven't been a featured guest in this series before, but we had no idea it was such an honor. The third "CE-Oh no" moment for Sony this week came out of the mouth of SCE World Europe VP, Jamie MacDonald, who was asked: "What would you say to consumers who like Sony and want to buy your products, but perhaps feel that because they're in Europe they're always last in line?" Apparently Jamie feels little love for his whiny constituency, since his clueless response was thus: "European consumers have shown that historically they don't mind that, because they end up buying as many PlayStations, if not more, than the US and Japan. In Europe, it doesn't seem that the release of our platforms after the US and Japan - in the long run - affects how consumers feel." We're not even sure how to respond to that, so we'll continue with more "CE-Oh no" sound bite gold from our pal Jamie. In response to a query about Sony's UMD failure, he stated: "I think you'll find in general the market for movies on discs of any type is not particularly great at the moment." Again, we really have nothing to add, so we'll just hit up one more sound bite for good time's sake. When asked about the Wii60 concept, where prospective next-gen buyers compare the price of purchasing an Xbox 360 and a Nintendo Wii to the cost of the PS3 alone, Jamie further demonstrated his ignorance: "To be honest, I haven't heard that." Not a banner day for Sony PR by a long shot, but at least they're not trying to hide their seeming disdain for consumers and plain logic.
            a) lol europe nobody likes u and ur coo wit dat rite?

            b) nobody buyz moveys lol umd is r0x0rz

            c) ther r oda consolez?

            Oh wait, there's more.

            We couldn’t find the page you were looking for.


            "Both hardware and software worked flawlessly," at TGS

            Speaking exclusively to GamesIndustry.biz Sony Europe has categorically denied reports that the PS3 hardware has suffered any problems due to overheating.

            The rebuttal follows a report by Macquire Securities analyst David Gibson, who wrote that PS3 units at the Tokyo Game Show were overheating, causing concern over the stability of the console, which in turn caused Sony shares to tumble by 2.75 per cent yesterday.

            "SCE can categorically deny that there's any problems with PS3 units overheating," said the company in a statement issued to GI.biz.

            "As could be seen on the TGS floor by the tens of thousands of media and public attendees, both the hardware and software worked flawlessly," the statement concludes.

            Sony has been suffering negative press since the company announced it would be delaying the European launch of the PlayStation 3 until March 2007, due to difficulties in producing a key component of the system.

            The overheating rumours have also been fuelled by a recent recall of lithium ion batteries manufactured by Sony, which affected technology partners Dell, Toshiba and Apple.



            FLAWLESSLY.

            I wish that were the end, but it never is.



            Say bye-bye to those precious Blu-ray discs. At GDC London, Sony Europe's Jamie MacDonald believes the industry is experiencing a "paradigm shift" and moving towards a "network-centric world." Continuing, he says:

            In five years' time, my belief is that the majority of content won't be delivered on disc... It also brings with it great opportunities because it means you can touch your consumer in many different ways and at different times - it's not just a one-off relationship where a consumer buys a disc from the store.

            Eds Note: "Touching your consumer" is fancy talk for "charging your consumer."

            Sony brass keep predicting the downfall of discs, just as they're telling us how great Blu-ray is. First, Phil Harrison, now this guy. So discs will be overrun by digital media in five years? That's exactly the same length of time it will take most to pay off their Blu-ray playing PS3s. Zing!
            YES BLU-RAY IT'LL LAST THIS CONSOLE TEN YEARS. ALSO, IN FIVE YEARS, NOBODY WILL USE ANY DISC-MEDIA FORMAT. SO, WHAT IS TEN MINUS FIVE AGAIN?
            Last edited by Squeek; 10-6-2006, 05:19 PM.

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            • Squeek
              let it snow~
              • Jan 2004
              • 14444

              #201
              Re: The PS3 Is Here.

              http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=144

              =)

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              • Squeek
                let it snow~
                • Jan 2004
                • 14444

                #202
                Re: The PS3 Is Here.

                Spot of tea?

                Chip-cheerio.

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                • Squeek
                  let it snow~
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 14444

                  #203
                  Re: The PS3 Is Here.

                  http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/eb-game...s3s-206183.php

                  Ahahahaha. It's so hilarious that I didn't think about this.

                  I'm always shocked at how blatantly obnoxious some of those guys can be. When I asked them about Playstation 3s, the manager on duty told me that every store in the chain is getting about four or five each, which means they aren't getting any. I asked him to explain and he said, while literally rubbing his hands together, "They're letting employees buy PS3s, so there won't be any left." I asked if they have to stand in line and he said no, the second we open we'll just buy them up. He did say that they can only buy one each, but I'm guessing most stories have at least five employees smart enough to know how to use Ebay.

                  He said that the stores are supposed to be getting about 50 Wii each. In general he seemed to be dismissing the PS3 and telling me that the Wii was the way to go.
                  The low shipment amount per store means that the employees get first dibs, and if this is true, then each employee will snag one (if they can even get one to each employee). Therefore, no customers will get one.

                  This is SAD, Sony. And the only way to stop it is to ship more units, which you can't do because you can't even manufacture the parts for your console in time.

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                  • emptiness
                    FFR Player
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 453

                    #204
                    Re: The PS3 Is Here.

                    Pre-orders are for sale on Ebay, so i heard.
                    Back in 5 mins

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                    • Squeek
                      let it snow~
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 14444

                      #205
                      Re: The PS3 Is Here.

                      eBay pulled the auctions as they broke their rules.

                      They will eventually go up on eBay, but not yet.

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                      • Gray Fox
                        FFR Player
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 563

                        #206
                        Re: The PS3 Is Here.

                        Wont people buy a preorder for a PS3 then sell it on Ebay for triple of what it they bought it for? Then they could buy another PS3 later on and still have a lot of money left over.

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                        • Squeek
                          let it snow~
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 14444

                          #207
                          Re: The PS3 Is Here.

                          According to eBay at the moment I checked, auctions for the PS3 are going from 1,300 to 1,900 dollars.

                          People are so impatient.

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                          • Gray Fox
                            FFR Player
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 563

                            #208
                            Re: The PS3 Is Here.

                            Indeed they are, if only people had patience and spend their money a little more wisely. Oh well, we all have reasons for the things we do.

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                            • Eyoshi
                              Certified Calendarwhore
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 1044

                              #209
                              Re: The PS3 Is Here.

                              Seems like not even the Japanese can get a break.

                              http://www.joystiq.com/2006/10/30/ja...part-problems/

                              Only 80 thousand units will be ready to go in Japan out of the expected 100 thousand due to a lack of components needed to make the system.

                              EDIT: Forgot to add the following:
                              SONY CAN'T MANAGE OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
                              Last edited by Eyoshi; 10-30-2006, 03:17 PM.

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                              • Squeek
                                let it snow~
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 14444

                                #210
                                Re: The PS3 Is Here.

                                Oh haha guess what

                                Games are already set to take up several gigs of storage space on that internal hard drive. One was set to be 4gb, Ridge Racer is set to be 5. You have a 20gb hard drive, you get four games on there. You can't even get any downloadable content. You have to erase the game from your hard drive to get another game on there, or to download stuff. So really, you can only fit three games on there if you want space for more stuff.

                                It's not like it's much better with a 60gb. 11 games. Wow. I have about four times that many games for my Gamecube. I bet most people have multiples of that number for PS2 as well.

                                What are they thinking.

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