Nintendo Revolution

[jewpinthethird]

Care to explain how Nintendo is behind?

They have the best graphic capabilities.
They have the best games.
The console does not overheat.
The console never locks up; even if you kick it around and such (I've tested this).

How is this behind? I'd love an explanation.

~Squeek

I wont say it is behind in technology. But it is behind in sales. Why? It has a small fan base. You wont see many non-gamers with GC's. However you will find non-gamers with PS2's and/or Xbox.

[Chromer]

Look Nintendo's reign over all of us ended after the release of the PS2 and X-Box. It's only hope right now is through the DS which probably is going to be crushed by the release of the PSP. And don't start with me Nintendo Fanboys. We all know its going to happen.

On a side note, no Nintendo did not help bring games back. Pong did. Don't believe me? Watch Icons on G4TechTV.

[Squeek]

I still don't see this "LOSS OF MONEY AND GOING BANKRUPT ZOMG" thing you're talking about.

Sure, most teenagers prefer PS2 or XBOX over a Gamecube. But, you're not including families with younger children in this list of yours. Families with many pre-teen kids would prefer a console with a higher ratio of games that apply to their children. Gamecube outsells all others in that age bracket. Nintendo is not losing money. Heck, they're even making an anime branch in Japan so they can expand their market even FARTHER!

By the way, Gameboy has always been Nintendo's top seller. You don't need to tell me that. I have no doubt in my mind that the DS will outsell the PSP. Just wait until the DS has been out a year, then compare it to the PSP's one year anniversary sales and we'll see who wins.

~Squeek

[IAMTHEEVILBEAN]

Look Nintendo's reign over all of us ended after the release of the PS2 and X-Box. It's only hope right now is through the DS which probably is going to be crushed by the release of the PSP. And don't start with me Nintendo Fanboys. We all know its going to happen.

On a side note, no Nintendo did not help bring games back. Pong did. Don't believe me? Watch Icons on G4TechTV.

I might be mistaken, but, didn't the DS outsell the PSP on its launch week?

Oh yeah, and http://www.gamesarefun.com/consoles/psp/pspdefect2.mov

Whoops.

[nforcer06164]

It's only hope right now is through the DS which probably is going to be crushed by the release of the PSP. And don't start with me Nintendo Fanboys. We all know its going to happen.

Okay, let's examine this a little deeper...

PRICES
DS: $150, games about $30.
PSP: $170-230, games about $50.

BATTERY LIFE
DS: Up to about 16 hours (I tested it).
PSP: No more than 10 hours (By *~SONY RELEASED~* specs)

GAMES
DS: Nintendo's quality titles, Feel the Magic: XY/XX, and so many more to come....
PSP: *cough*

FEATURES
DS: Microphone, touch sceen, two screens, wireless capability.
PSP: Can play movies, music, AND video games, much like you can at home... with more popular, more widely supported formats.


Nintendo's games don't require a memory card, while PSP games do. Isn't that a little, erm, inconvenient? And what was Sony thinking? Using discs in a portable game system? We all saw that was an iffy move from the start....

I have to admit, what I've said may be a little one-sided or unfair, but not much. If you generalize, DS still comes out on top. Plus, PSP sales are already crumbling. Now, isn't that a shame? How can it come out on top if it isn't even selling on launch?

EDIT: Evilbean, you forgot this one:

http://www.gamesarefun.com/consoles/psp/pspdefect1.mov

How can I play my games now, guys?

[jewpinthethird]

GAMES
DS: Nintendo's quality titles, Feel the Magic: XY/XX, and so many more to come....
PSP: *cough*

Cough

Nintendo's games don't require a memory card, while PSP games do. Isn't that a little, erm, inconvenient? And what was Sony thinking? Using discs in a portable game system? We all saw that was an iffy move from the start....

Inconvenient? Not really...and considering that you can watch movies for free thanks to the fact that it does use "memory cards," it really isnt that big of a deal: http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000980024404/

Also, the PSP hasnt been released in America yet...so there really isnt a point in arguing over what platform is better just yet (by that I mean wait until you actually use the system before coming to your conclusion).

[Squeek]

I <3 defective products.

I still want to see the list of potential games to be released on the PSP.

~Squeek

[IAMTHEEVILBEAN]

DS Game List

-Advance Wars DS
-Animal Crossing DS
-Another
-Egg Monster Heros
-Final Fantasy III
-Band Brothers
-Mario Kart DS
-New Mario Platformer
-Pokemon Diamond
-Pokemon Pearl
-Xenosaga
-Baten Kaitos
-Goeman
-One Line Puzzle
-Puyo Pop
-Ninja Gaiden
-Puppy times
-Shin megimi tensai
-Wario Ware
-Harvest Moon
-Yoshi's touch and go
-Viewtiful Joe
-Meteos
-Kirby
-Super Princess Peach
-4 Swords DS
-Jump Superstars
-Castlevania DS
-Nanostray
-Moonlight Fables
-POkemon Dash
-Zookeeper
-Rayman
-Cadecus
-Metroid Prime: Hunters
-Snowboard Kids
-Prince of tennis
-pacpix
-Atari Classics

RUMORED RELEASES

-Perfect Dark DS
-Conker DS


And that is just a list of games that I want, there are many more to come.

http://www.gamesarefun.com/consoles/psp/pspdefect2.mov

[Musical_Master]

You want Puppy Times? Anyway, here is a rumor about the revolution's controller since this topic was originally about the revolution.

Earlier this week, the respected Japanese business magazine Shuukan Diamond reported in its 2005 Preview Edition that the Nintendo Revolution Controller will not feature a directional pad or A and B buttons.


If the news turns out to be true, Revolution would be the first Nintendo console to not feature a D-Pad and the A/B button combo. Nintendo has long said that it seeks to innovate with new control mechanisms, as evidenced by the inclusion of a touch screen on the Nintendo DS.
Given the focus of setting the A and B buttons on the GameCube controller apart from the now industry standard four-button layout, it will be interesting to see what new setup Nintendo is planning to bring to the table.

According to Shuukan Diamond, the wait will not be long. The magazine reports that Nintendo will debut GameCube's successor at the Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3) in Los Angeles, May 2005.

None of the magazine's claims were substantiated by Nintendo, but given the publication's track record of accurate business reporting since 1913, we'd be surprised if Diamond's claims turned out to be false.

Source: http://cube.ign.com/articles/575/575714p1.html

Also, Nintendo is suppose to make a big announcement in March regarding the DS. This might mean online play via WIFI or some more, better games.

[robyextreme]

All there is to know for now

http://cube.ign.com/articles/522/522559p1.html

[nforcer06164]

This is long, but read it:

Nintendo Gyroid
Chance: Plausible
The purpose of an input device on a games machine is to allow the user to control the on-screen action. The holy grail for such a device is remove the "middle man" almost entirely, leaving you feeling as if you are truly a part of the digital world without any complex devices to distract you. And what better way to get closer to this vision than to use completely natural real-world hand gestures?

In the past decade or so, several companies have developed micro-machines that use gyration technology based on the science behind a gyroscope. Let's do a quick refresher to see how that works exactly. The idea behind a gyroscope is that if you spin something really fast then it will have equal amounts of pressure on all sides (virtually) and therefore can stay balanced. So imagine balancing a disc on the middle of your finger. If you were to press down on one of the sides it would surely fall off. However, now imagine that you are spinning this disc at a very high velocity. When you go to apply pressure to one side of the disc, your finger would be virtually drawing a circle almost instantly around the disc. Since the force is not being applied in any one area of the disc more than any other, the disc remains flat. The phenomenon has led us to develop sophisticated sensors that can be used to sense movement and angles. Such technology has been built into things like airplanes, which feature more than 11 of these gyroscopes for their compass and auto-pilot. The important thing to note here is that gyroscopes prove handy in motion sensors because they will face one direction constantly (almost like the needle of a compass).

In September of 2001 Gyration Inc., a leading manufacturer of efficient gyroscope sensors, announced a deal with Nintendo. The details of the deal were straightforward - Nintendo was to invest an undisclosed amount of money into the company in return for the use of the Gyration technology. Some interesting things were said around that time:

"Gyration intends to be the first company to produce game controllers enhanced with gyroscopic motion-sensors, which have a tenfold performance increase over accelerometer tilt sensors and add the ability to sense yaw as well as pitch. A gyro-equipped, motion-sensing controller provides a natural method of game control that draws the player into the game and makes game play more enjoyable. The motion sensor can take the place of a typical thumb pressure pad allowing one-handed game play, or can be integrated into a two-handed controller to add a dimension to game playing not possible with traditional game controllers." - Gyration Inc.

"Unlike accelerometers used by all other motion game manufactures, gyros can track the yaw axis motion that is critical for intuitive game control. Yaw axis tracking allows users to naturally point and move objects left and right much the way screen objects move on their TVS without having to tilt the game controller." -Marc Harris, Gyration Inc.

Essentially the player, by using natural gestures both horizontally and vertically, can interact with the game he/she is playing in a more natural way. However, to do so you would need a completely revolutionary design to compliment the idea. Two such ideas are the "glove" and the "handle." Imagine if you will, a glove not unlike those used in the film Minority Report to control computers. A simple device that would allow for you to move your hand freely while giving extra commands by doing such things as clenching your fist or pointing a finger. Moving your hand through the air could translate to movement of objects on screen. The "handle" on the other hand, would probably more down to earth. It could be like the handle of a light saber with a button on top as well as next to the middle and trigger fingers. It could be held upright like a gun for a bevy of titles and could even be held sideways to simulate holding the top of a steering wheel. The common thread here is that you must be able to move the controller freely in the air while still allowing for some other input commands via buttons, finger movements, etc.

Very interesting. I'm not too confident that it will go over well. A touch screen on the DS is already successful because it was proven to be reliable and functional in PDAs. But gyration... it reminds me of how successful Nintendo was when they went "different" with R.O.B. and Virtual Boy....

[vashthestampede0987]

I just have to say this. Nintendo has helped create the world of video games and will help divide and conquer the world of video games..Then soon Nintendo will create the apocolyptic nighmare for playstation and xbox fans and create a beautiful utopia for nintendo fans. and that my friends is the one truth that has prevaild on this case closed.

[jewpinthethird]

I just have to say this. Nintendo has helped create the world of video games and will help divide and conquer the world of video games..Then soon Nintendo will create the apocolyptic nighmare for playstation and xbox fans and create a beautiful utopia for nintendo fans. and that my friends is the one truth that has prevaild on this case closed.

Come the Nintendo Rapture, we will have the Earth for ourselves.

[evilbutterfly]

1) I love how the thread turned into PSP vs DS. Stay on topic guys.
2) It would seem as thought the PSP doubles as some sort of attack device. O=

[robyextreme]

IF they decide to make it online they just have to make a SSMB for it since everyones always like Im the best i can beat anyone blah

I need to prove them wrong